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Wary Release Candidate (104) feedback
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Dec 2010, 23:43    Post subject:  Wary Release Candidate (104) feedback  

Well, it seems that Wary is "good enough" to become a Release Candidate.

Grab from here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/quirky/wary-104/

...the live-CD is, devx, delta-files.

Feedback most welcome!

Note: I am in "holiday mode" in Melbourne, but managing to put in a few hours on Puppy stuff every day. There will be a few days coming up when that will drop further.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Dec 2010, 23:48    Post subject:  

As a reminder to myself, technosaurus posted a modification to the 'remove_builtin' script, back in the Wary 102 thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62891&start=105

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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 00:58    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of Wary 104 on my main Linux box. Working sound, internet and the correct screen resolution on initial boot. Yes, the dreaded Realtek nic was connected on bootup. Smile

Ethernet controller : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+

Haven't installed anything yet but have acceleration with the default nv driver.


VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 104

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


# glxgears
866 frames in 5.1 seconds = 170.168 FPS
980 frames in 5.1 seconds = 193.834 FPS
980 frames in 5.0 seconds = 194.429 FPS
980 frames in 5.0 seconds = 195.221 FPS
1000 frames in 5.0 seconds = 198.380 FPS
980 frames in 5.1 seconds = 193.504 FPS
1380 frames in 5.0 seconds = 275.450 FPS
1340 frames in 5.1 seconds = 264.877 FPS
1440 frames in 5.0 seconds = 286.995 FPS
1460 frames in 5.0 seconds = 291.171 FPS
1500 frames in 5.0 seconds = 299.833 FPS
1500 frames in 5.1 seconds = 296.226 FPS
1460 frames in 5.0 seconds = 289.143 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (122MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.10
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 21 Dec 2010 10:56:26 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Looks really solid so far, going to grab the Nvidia driver after I reboot.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 01:25    Post subject:  

Rebooted and installed the Nvidia 71.86.14 driver.......

# glxgears
5439 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1087.800 FPS
5647 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1129.400 FPS
5527 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1105.400 FPS
5647 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1129.400 FPS
4485 frames in 5.0 seconds = 897.000 FPS
5639 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1127.800 FPS
11596 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2319.200 FPS
15565 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3113.000 FPS
16158 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3231.600 FPS
15404 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3080.800 FPS
17387 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3477.400 FPS
16504 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3300.800 FPS

Much better......
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 01:46    Post subject: Wary Release Candidate (104) feedback
Subject description: nvidia
 

I did a frugal install of wary 104.
Everything is working on first boot,sound,wired network,and screen
resolution is correct.

# glxgears
491 frames in 5.1 seconds = 96.259 FPS
440 frames in 5.2 seconds = 84.427 FPS
440 frames in 5.0 seconds = 87.302 FPS
440 frames in 5.0 seconds = 87.277 FPS
440 frames in 5.1 seconds = 87.108 FPS
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 104

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
I installed the devx and the kernel source sfs and exited to the
prompt and ran the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run file which I had
downloaded from the nvidia web site.

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
51916 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10383.040 FPS
52002 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10400.294 FPS
51986 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10397.099 FPS
51996 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10399.123 FPS
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 104

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation

Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.3.0
Monitors
Monitor 0 1440x900 pixels

OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 260.19.29
Direct Rendering Yes
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James C


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 01:59    Post subject:  

Frugal install of Wary 104 on the old P3 test box. Everything working on initial boot. Only thing installed is Mesa.



VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 104

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 GMCH [Graphics Memory Controller Hub]
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


# glxgears
326 frames in 5.3 seconds = 61.880 FPS
420 frames in 5.2 seconds = 80.939 FPS
380 frames in 5.1 seconds = 74.790 FPS
400 frames in 5.0 seconds = 79.825 FPS
400 frames in 5.1 seconds = 78.082 FPS
400 frames in 5.0 seconds = 79.723 FPS
400 frames in 5.2 seconds = 77.558 FPS
520 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.240 FPS
580 frames in 5.2 seconds = 112.292 FPS
500 frames in 5.0 seconds = 99.153 FPS
520 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.182 FPS
580 frames in 5.1 seconds = 112.711 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 253MB (110MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.10
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 21 Dec 2010 11:58:00 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

-OpenGL-
Vendor : Mesa project
Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
Version : 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)
Direct Rendering : No
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 03:00    Post subject:  

Still needs this fix to make rox-clicking work right;

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=468682#468682

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taca0

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 03:32    Post subject:  

BarryK:

Please make a Xorg server 1.4.2 upgrade pet option ??

I test it and its faster than other but I need the graphics stability . I cant compile that stuff.
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 03:45    Post subject:  

Here is a sub-100MB build:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02046

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DaveS


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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 04:05    Post subject:  

Awful problems with seamonkey scroll delay and display splitting.... sorry!
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Sage

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 06:22    Post subject:  

Quote:
scroll delay

Yes, so slow on Wary regular that highlighting never appears, even on a 754 machine. The highlighting speed on Small is less delayed, but enough to frighten the hoss'es.
Time to dump this awful browser once and for all?!
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 06:31    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Quote:
scroll delay

Yes, so slow on Wary regular that highlighting never appears, even on a 754 machine. The highlighting speed on Small is less delayed, but enough to frighten the hoss'es.
Time to dump this awful browser once and for all?!


Installing SM 2.1beta1 fixes it, so it is primarily a compile issue? Also, leave browser open and load calendar (click on clock). V slow to render and black patch appears brieflt at top left of screen. Seems like a video driver issue.

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 06:55    Post subject:  

Even better still, the really good news is that Opera11 will d/l and install as .deb(other) straight from their website + open(petget). Highlighting the URL in Opera is still a little quirky but nothing like the grief of SM. Incidentally, my downloader shows Opera11 @ 9.5Mb and SM @ 16Mb*. Adding a decent email client like Claws will add another 9Mb (Sylpheed ~1Mb?), although folks determined to stay small&fast can always use a webmail client at no further cost.
The 'create key' keeps popping up again.
Got a strange panel freeze-up whilst using PPM and selecting another repo. Managed to clear from the tray without restarting X. Other strange instances of mouse usage around files manipulation, etc - difficult to repeat or quantify?
2-barks and help page return every time exiting X and returning? Deliberate?

*Note that jemimah has just:
Quote:
Chrome is gone, replaced by a much smaller, lighter, and cuter Midori

-perhaps this is the answer everyone (nearly) has been seeking (for Wary-small, at least)?
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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 11:19    Post subject: Wary Release Candidate (104) feedback
Subject description: links web browser
 

This is the links web browser, it creates an entry in the internet
section of the puppy menu.
It is set to run in graphics mode but if you don't want that open the
console and start it by entering the command links.
Compiled and tested in Wary 104rc.
edit: Works in lupu 515 too.
links_DOC-2.3pre1-i486.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  links_DOC-2.3pre1-i486.pet 
Filesize  5.43 KB 
Downloaded  283 Time(s) 
links-2.3pre1-i486.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  links-2.3pre1-i486.pet 
Filesize  1.81 MB 
Downloaded  329 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Wed 22 Dec 2010, 11:53    Post subject:  

As with Wary 102; loading modules with usb or pcmcia devices
inserted causes a long count during boot.
Sometimes causes frozen cursor when using usb mouse.

Have not found any speed difference when booting 098 or 104
regular or small versions.

Wary consistently boots 8 secs. faster than any Luci on my 700m.
The fastest regular Puppy boot I've seen.

edit;

When booting from usb flash; don't seem to have any problems.

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