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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 21:12 Post subject:
Re: Too Much |
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| Frank Cox wrote: | I have know spent nearly a whole day trying to get the wireless to work in Wary and have come to the conclusion it is a kernel problem and there is no way to overcome it.
Hope 431 is supported a while longer. |
Oh, you had the ipw2200 driver working with encryption in puppy 431 and not Wary? That is odd. I thought that it was just a case of Wary having an old kernel, but 431 has an even older kernel.
Note, there is a log of the connection attempt at:
/tmp/simple_network_setup/rc_network_wireless_connection_log
...take a look at that.
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 21:33 Post subject:
Re: ffmpeg and libvpx on vortex86MX (gecko edubook) |
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| pskin wrote: | @Barry,
I have managed to compile the latest svn source of ffmpeg
and libvpx. I am not sure how to test these thoroughly.
I tried ffplay on a variety of formats (mpeg, .avi DivX, etc) and managed
to see the movies with sound. I got some alsa pcm underrun messages
on the console, but there seemed to be no problems with the movie.
What other formats should be tested?
How do I test the rest of ffmpeg?
(I am not even sure about what it is supposed to do.)
How do I test libvpx?
I am afraid I hardly know anything about multimedia stuff.
Any pointers from anyone are welcome.
I am not certain about mmx support in vortex86Mx but I went ahead
and configured with --enable-mmx anyway. If problems come up I'll
try changing the config.
For the ffmpeg configuration the --enable-libfaad option apparently
no longer exists since it is not needed, according to some discussion
on the ffmpeg-dev forum.
-pskin |
If you test mplayer, that uses ffmpeg.
There are sites that have lots of video test files that you can download. The mplayer site has such a collection -- but I just looked, can't find it. Ah, found it!:
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005 Posts: 6874 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 21:45 Post subject:
Re: wary 5 on gecko (surfboard/edubook) |
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| technosaurus wrote: | | BarryK wrote: | even though MMX was introduced with the 486. Which was annoying, maybe I could have hacked the 'configure' script.
Adobe Flash -- perhaps the older version 9 player would work? |
Re ffmpeg on gecko: mmx was introduced after 486 - the vortexDx is a 586 without mmx or 3dnow (the newer vortexMx does have mmx though) - so it may benefit from -march=i586 -mtune=i586
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Thanks for the correction. I had somehow got it stuck in my head that MMX came in with the 486.
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Aitch

Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK
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Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 22:26 Post subject:
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There seems to be some dispute about MMX, this post suggests 386MMX...
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/cpu/arch/int/instMMX-c.html
...though I, too, thought it was 486 first, as I had a 486/60mhz with MMX, though it may have been a DX2...?
more here, though maybe for a re-introduced 386....
http://www.programmersheaven.com/tags/Embedded/Files/?Cons_Application=Security&
Gosh, I feel old
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technosaurus

Joined: 18 May 2008 Posts: 3845
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Posted: Wed 12 Jan 2011, 02:23 Post subject:
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@Aitch
& I think you misread your source
| Quote: | | MMX defines 57 new instructions and the first significant break with forward compatibility since the introduction of the 386 |
one of the ways Intel saved die space for those 57 new instructions in the Pentium MMX was to share a register with the 387 fpu ... unfortunately they cannot both use it at the same time - causing lower performance due to conflicts... they could have easily added another register later but MS compatibility prevailed ... Instead the "686" or Pentium 3 and beyond have an alternative fpu called "sse" - this can be enabled separately with -mfpmath=sse
... pretty sure you didn't have a 486 with mmx either
cpuinfo would have mmx in flags
>cpu family : 4
>model name : 486 DX/4
>flags: fpu
more details about the pseudo-functions for each instruction set
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.0.0/gcc/X86-Built_002din-Functions.html#X86-Built_002din-Functions
and how/when/why to enable them when compiling
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.0.0/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html
anyhow - it would be safe to use -march=i586 and -mmmx and even -mtune=i686 (yes you can mismatch) but not necessarily -msse or -m3dnow
gstreamer uses a compatibility layer to interface with different cpu classes differently (orc ... used to be liboil)
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corrisponder60329
Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed 12 Jan 2011, 07:18 Post subject:
Abiword 2.8.6 crash:clik find a word previously found |
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Hi Friends users, I have a feedback work with Abiword. My Wary 5 boots from USB. Still in testing. Abiword chrashed when clik in menu : edit/find
a word previously found. See place the snapshot. Thank you very much. BEST REGARDS.
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ICPUG
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1278 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed 12 Jan 2011, 09:35 Post subject:
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Installed Wary 5 frugally on my 1998 desktop. Two points so far:
1) The welcome screen on first boot is cut off before the bottom and cannot be scrolled - probably because I use 800x600 resolution. Wary - good for old computers - maybe not so for old eyes.
2) Clicking on a wmv file in Rox caused mplayer to load but then shut down again without playing anything.
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don570

Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 2533 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Wed 12 Jan 2011, 16:46 Post subject:
new version of mtpaint |
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There's a new version of mtpaint (version 3.34.64)
https://github.com/wjaguar/mtPaint
Apparently it does scaling of document with several options
to be more convenient to user.
I haven't had time to test though.
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Frank Cox
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 381
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Posted: Wed 12 Jan 2011, 23:16 Post subject:
Solved |
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| Béèm wrote: | | Fank Cox wrote: | I have no problems in 431 and I have rebooted and tried many times.
I can connect with no security in Wary. What can I do to fix the problem if it is the pcmia loading or usb module? | I understand from this that he has two wireless devices, a pcmcia one and an usb one which I assume is in the same PC. |
Hi Beem:
The problem was solved by using Wary 060 but I was refering to 2 different laptops with different operating systems-Puppy and Lubuntu , and the same wireless card.
Thanks anyway.
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Béèm

Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 11782 Location: Brussels IBM Thinkpad R40, 256MB, 20GB, WiFi ipw2100. Frugal Lin'N'Win
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Posted: Thu 13 Jan 2011, 10:13 Post subject:
Re: Solved |
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| Frank Cox wrote: | | Béèm wrote: | | Fank Cox wrote: | I have no problems in 431 and I have rebooted and tried many times.
I can connect with no security in Wary. What can I do to fix the problem if it is the pcmia loading or usb module? | I understand from this that he has two wireless devices, a pcmcia one and an usb one which I assume is in the same PC. |
Hi Beem:
The problem was solved by using Wary 060 but I was refering to 2 different laptops with different operating systems-Puppy and Lubuntu , and the same wireless card.
Thanks anyway. | I didn't get that from your posts.
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don570

Joined: 10 Mar 2010 Posts: 2533 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Thu 13 Jan 2011, 19:43 Post subject:
bug with mtpaint and wary lite |
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I have found a bug with mtpaint and wary lite. I didn't
test the full version of Wary.
To see the bug you must go to /root/puppy-reference/vector-images/
and try to open the SVG file there with mtpaint.
You will just be given a warning message about the fle format.
Other versions of Puppy will open this file with any recent version
of mtpaint.
mtpaint documentation says that librsvg needs to installed.
Wary lite does have this though.
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scsijon
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 948 Location: the australian mallee
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Posted: Thu 13 Jan 2011, 21:52 Post subject:
mmx - ot but... |
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folks, off topic but had to answer.
P54C - no mmx
P55C - with mmx
AMDK5 - no mmx
AMD K6 - with mmx
Cyrix 6x86(L) or 6x86-P - no mmx
Cyrix 6x86MX - with mmx
most had a clock speed of 200meg or greater
there were even PII and P with mmx, but these were just downgraded P55C's
needed a mmx compatable motherboard though.
this is also the era when double sided ram first appeared and 16Mbit memory chips were the norm.
one free online source I use for this sort of thing is
http://www.philipstorr.id.au/pcbook/
well worth bookmarking for hardware stuff.
Although a problem when I can remember 4004's being around.
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jamesbond
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1573 Location: The Blue Marble
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Posted: Thu 13 Jan 2011, 23:29 Post subject:
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Wary 500 no longer does netboot properly. Booting with humongous initrd failed - it complains that it cannot find "boot partition". I tried passing "pupsfs=rootfs,rootfs,/wary_500.sfs" boot params, same error. Seems to affect puplets build with latest woof also e.g. Lupu 5.2
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don922
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 337 Location: The land of 14" monitors
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Posted: Fri 14 Jan 2011, 03:11 Post subject:
urxvt too small - not readable |
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Frugal install of Wary lite using the Lin'N'Win method on a PII 350. Internet and screen resolution all correct and working on initial boot.
The Problem:
The screen of urxvt is very small about 150mm x 90mm the lettering is less than 3mm - just too small for my old eyes. I can't read this.
I don't seem to be able to adjust this in any meaningful way. Every change of font size in .Xdefault results in a very ugly bright pink screen that runs off the monitor.
To allempt to fix this I downloaded and installed rxvt-2.6.4.2pet. Substituting rxvt for urxvt in the "Console" icon, using the .Xdefault included in Wary 5 resulted in the ugly pink screen that runs off the monitor.
I copied the .Xdefault from Puppy 4.12 which works well with rxvt in that puppy, but in Wary 5 it resulted in the ugly pink screen that runs off the monitor.
Restoring urxvt and using the .Xdefault that came with Wary I get the tiny sized urxvt and
selecting rxvt from the Menu>Utility>Rxvt gives the same tiny result.
Can the urxvt screen and lettering be enlarged? I would like background: "LightYellow"; foreground: "navy"; and font: 10x20. Alteratively, I would like to use rxvt with these same settings.
Can this be fixed? This really kills Wary for me.
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jamesbond
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1573 Location: The Blue Marble
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Posted: Fri 14 Jan 2011, 06:23 Post subject:
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| jamesbond wrote: | | Wary 500 no longer does netboot properly. Booting with humongous initrd failed - it complains that it cannot find "boot partition". I tried passing "pupsfs=rootfs,rootfs,/wary_500.sfs" boot params, same error. Seems to affect puplets build with latest woof also e.g. Lupu 5.2 |
This is because on line 677 of /init, there is a test for PDEV1 (test will fail if PDEV1 is blank) and for netboot, PDEV1 *is* blank. If I pass a PDEV1 parameter during boot (even a fake one, like PDEV1=rootfs), boot will continue successfully.
It's rather easy to force PDEV1 to be non-blank, on line 515 which check for humongous initrd, we can just put any dummy value to PDEV1 to make it non-empty. But I don't think that's the right way to do it, because PDEV1 is used to search for pupsave as well, so we don't want to override any user-defined PDEV1 with dummy values (for scenarios like, netbooting but the pup-save is available on harddisk/usb, where correct PDEV1 is really needed).
Instead, I think it's line 677 should be modified to recognise presence of humongous initrd. Instead of
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[ "$PDEV1" = "" ] && DROPOUT="Boot partition"
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it should be modified instead to
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[ "$PDEV1" = "" && "$PUPSFS" = "" ] && DROPOUT="Boot partition"
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Meanwhile, for existing puppies, the workaround is to pass PDEV1 parameter during boot.
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