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#196 Post by Lookinglass360 »

Pistoi0
Thats what I get as well, so looks good.
Have you tried booting the disk in another machine?
I don’t have much time this morning, but will dig
into this then I get home.

Do you have an external drive you could burn a disk with?
Or perhaps an usb stick to copy the .iso to and burn with another
computer?
Getting a good burn would tell us your drive is not
burning/detecting correctly.
I have three computers that will make an MultiPup dvd-r disk but not
read them?
They will work on “some

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#197 Post by CatDude »

Hello pistoi0
pistoi0 wrote:Lookinglass360, did as you suggested and d/l a new copy of Multipup3.3 -- without success. Perhaps you can tell something from my grub menu. Is this similar to what you get ?

# Grub Default Options
default 0
timeout 50
#color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
gfxmenu (cd)/boot/grub/Multipup
title lupu-528.004
configfile /lupu-528.004/menu.lst
title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
configfile /slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/menu.lst
title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI
configfile /squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/menu.lst
That is only part of the picture,
ie: that is just the contents of : /boot/grub/menu.lst

What do the contents of each of the menu.lst files (indicated in red) look like :?:

I built a quick ISO (using Multipup3.3) with the same ISO's as yourself,
here is what i have in my menu.lst files,
and a quick test in VirtualBox verified things as working OK (using the Run in ram options)


Contents of : /lupu-528.004/menu.lst

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title lupu-528.004 Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/lupu-528.004/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/lupu-528.004/initrd.gz

title lupu-528.004 Normal boot
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/lupu-528.004/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=lupu-528.004
initrd (cd)/lupu-528.004/initrd.gz

title lupu-528.004 Run in ram
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/lupu-528.004/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pfix=ram psubdir=lupu-528.004
initrd (cd)/lupu-528.004/initrd.gz

title Return to Main Menu
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst


Contents of : /slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/menu.lst

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title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Normal boot
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Run in ram
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pfix=ram psubdir=slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title Return to Main Menu
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst

Contents of : /squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/menu.lst

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title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/initrd.gz

title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI Normal boot
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI
initrd (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/initrd.gz

title squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI Run in ram
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pfix=ram psubdir=squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI
initrd (cd)/squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI/initrd.gz

title Return to Main Menu
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst

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#198 Post by pistoi0 »

CatDude, thanks for joining with Lookinglass360 in an effort to help me.

Each inside folder menu.lst matches each one that you posted.

I am posting this from a newly burned Lupu 528-004, so it seems my hardware is not fault.

I appreciate both of you for your assistance and hope someone can come up with a solution that will work for me.

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#199 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
Sorry, have not been around much as of late..
By the message you posted, it looks like the kernel loads, but not the initrd..
Do the folders on the disk have all their proper contents, IE vmlinuz/initrd.gz/pup.xxx.sfs??
You might try
pfix=irqpoll
at the boot prompt..
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#200 Post by pistoi0 »

Puppyluvr,

Here is the line you gave me: vmlinuz/initrd.gz/pup.xxx.sfs??
Here is what I have initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

Here is an example of one of my menu listings:

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Use Savefile
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Normal boot
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 psubdir=slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI Run in ram
root (cd)
kernel (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pfix=ram psubdir=slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
initrd (cd)/slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI/initrd.gz

title Return to Main Menu
configfile (cd)/boot/grub/menu.lst

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#201 Post by CatDude »

Hello pistoi0

I think puppyluvr was asking you to check the contents of each of the subdirectories on the disc (CD/DVD)

If you still have a copy of your custom ISO image on the hard drive,
simply click on it, then in the window that opens up,
open a console/terminal and enter the following command:

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ls -1R
that's a lowercase ell followed by an s, then -1R (that is a number one)

Or you could mount the disc and do the same (open console/terminal and run the command)

You should get something similar to this:

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# ls -1R
.:
boot
boot.catalog
index
logo.16
lupu-528.004
slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI

./boot:
grub

./boot/grub:
menu.lst
Multipup
stage2_eltorito

./lupu-528.004:
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
lupu_528.sfs
menu.lst
vmlinuz

./slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI:
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
menu.lst
puppy_slacko_5.3.2.1.sfs
README.HTM
vmlinuz

./squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI:
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
menu.lst
puppy_squeeze_5.X.13.6.sfs
README.HTM
vmlinuz
# 

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#202 Post by pistoi0 »

CatDude, thanks for sticking with me on this. Here is my output.

# ls -1R
.:
boot
boot.catalog
index
logo.16
lupu-528.004
slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI
squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI

./boot:
grub

./boot/grub:
menu.lst
Multipup
stage2_eltorito

./lupu-528.004:
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
lupu_528.sfs
menu.lst
vmlinuz

./slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI:
adrv_luki_012.sfs
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
menu.lst
puppy_luki_012.sfs
vmlinuz
zdrv_luki_012.sfs

./squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI:
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
menu.lst
puppy_squeeze_5.X.13.5.sfs
README.HTM
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For
the first word, TAB lists possible command
completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
completions of a device/filename. ]

grub>

grub> ./boot/grub:

Error 27: Unrecognized command

grub> menu.lst

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#203 Post by Lookinglass360 »

Hi pistoi0
Was that taken from the MultiPup . iso file you created or the burned
disk?
I have looked through all my coasters and can not find any thing useful.
I started using rw disks so all pre ver. 3.3 got blanked and recycled and I
have just not had any problems that produced that grub screen or error
in this version.
Kinda hard to learn to fix something that generally Just works!

At any rate you have real help now! I will keep lookin!

I have once again learned something I did not know, if this can be solved
all the better!

Thanks puppyluvr + CatDude

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#204 Post by CatDude »

Hello pistoi0

Please don't take this as an accusation or anything,
but looking at the output from the ls command that you posted,
i have to ask one question.

Did you manually edit things when building your multipup ISO :?:
(come on, don't be shy :wink: :wink: )

The reason i ask is this:
pistoi0 wrote:./slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI:
adrv_luki_012.sfs
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
menu.lst
puppy_luki_012.sfs
vmlinuz
zdrv_luki_012.sfs
The MultiPup CD/DVD Creator could not possibly have produced such a bizarre combination,
ie: a slacko-5.3.2.1-SCSI subdirectory containing the contents of what appears to be Saluki. :?


There is also a discrepancy here:
pistoi0 wrote:./squeeze-5.X.13.6-SCSI:
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
menu.lst
puppy_squeeze_5.X.13.5.sfs
README.HTM
Plus there is no mention of a vmlinuz either.

pistoi0 wrote:[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For
the first word, TAB lists possible command
completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
completions of a device/filename. ]
At what point during booting the CD are you getting this :?:


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#205 Post by pistoi0 »

CatDude, you flatter me! Except for assigning absolute linking, I did nothing more than click the gui buttons. As for the appearance of the grub prompt and message, that comes up immediately when attempting to load the disc. In other words, that is all that I get, nothing else.

Here is an attempt to make a one-pup .iso using Lupu with no .pets or .sfs and all I get on the screen is the grub prompt and message:

lupu-528.004

./boot:
grub

./boot/grub:
menu.lst
Multipup
stage2_eltorito

./lupu-528.004:
boot.cat
boot.msg
help2.msg
help.msg
initrd.gz
isolinux.bin
isolinux.cfg
logo.16
lupu_528.sfs
menu.lst
vmlinuz
sh-4.1#

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#206 Post by pistoi0 »

Catdude

Thank you for the PM. I will gladly try the experiment you suggest.

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#207 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,,
pistoi0,
I am looking at your error, and although I cannot reproduce it, will try to solve it.. However...
Catdude, in looking at your error has uncovered another, more tangible problem concerning "Slacko"..
I believe the problem is related to "filemnt" mounting the ISO`s 'read only'...
This could be an issue related to unionfs, IDK...
pistoi0, i may have missed it, but what Puppy are you building the MultiPup ISO on???...
Maybe all related... Slacko may be the clue....
Tomorrow, with a clearer head.... :wink:
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#208 Post by pistoi0 »

Puppyluvr

Don't know if I mentioned it. Started out with a Lucid 528, then tried Exprimo 5x13. I have tried it straight from a live DVD as well as from frugals. The frugals and everything else are on a 32 gig SDHC in a sata adapter. The drive has two partitions. SDA1 is a FAT 32 and SDA2 is an ext 3 used by MuliPup. Also, CatDude has given me something to try as he mentioned above, and I will get to that assignment tomorrow, I hope.

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#209 Post by smokey01 »

MultiPup works quite well here in Lucid but I have to tweak it in Saluki. It does not like Thunar.
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#210 Post by pistoi0 »

Puppyluvr and Smokey01 et al

I have been using Lucid 528-004, and I am in the midst of running yet another experiment under CatDude's tutelage. I hope to complete that phase, soon. So far, I am suspecting a hardware challenge. Hope to have more information for all by the end of the weekend.

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#211 Post by puppyluvr »

:D Hello,
@smokey01,
Yea, I tried to include code for Thunar, and it does function on my Xfce4 desktop.. Lately I have not been able to D/L so have not tried Saluki since like the first version.. :oops:
Is it Xfce? How does it fail in Thunar for you? Mount point errors?..
I use it in Compiz and Xfce4 (4.6.2)...
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#212 Post by smokey01 »

It doesn't open the Thunar window to symlink the files.

If the window is open separately the symlinks can be created.

Later when the files are copied all the windows open but they do not close.

It does create the the ISO however, just a bit untidy.
puppyluvr wrote::D Hello,
@smokey01,
Yea, I tried to include code for Thunar, and it does function on my Xfce4 desktop.. Lately I have not been able to D/L so have not tried Saluki since like the first version.. :oops:
Is it Xfce? How does it fail in Thunar for you? Mount point errors?..
I use it in Compiz and Xfce4 (4.6.2)...

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#213 Post by gcmartin »

smokey01 wrote:It doesn't open the Thunar window to symlink the files.

If the window is open separately the symlinks can be created.

Later when the files are copied all the windows open but they do not close.

It does create the the ISO however, just a bit untidy.
puppyluvr wrote::D Hello,
@smokey01,
Yea, I tried to include code for Thunar, and it does function on my Xfce4 desktop.. Lately I have not been able to D/L so have not tried Saluki since like the first version.. :oops:
Is it Xfce? How does it fail in Thunar for you? Mount point errors?..
I use it in Compiz and Xfce4 (4.6.2)...
Does this problem with Salukii have anything to do with the A-drive+Z-Drive+SFSfs that it is architected to use?

Also, I did have a problem with LightHouse64. I think its because of the compression method used in its initrd file.

Thanks in advance.
P.S. Was this updated beyond 3.3 recently?

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#214 Post by gcmartin »

Multi-PUP upgrade? or same.

Reasons:
  • FATDOG 600 testing version (current development)
  • LightHouse64 5.14 version (December 2011)
  • Saluki 20+
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#215 Post by benny7440 »

I don't know if it's better to open a new thread or post the following in here, so I'm posting here but tell me if I should edit/move it away.

Many months ago I d/l Multipup 3.3PET & created a prototype of what I wanted but never burnt it because the notebook has screen problems & I suspected that it was going to be like working underwater at night, been blind.

Also, I was concerned with including there an alien (DSL, in my case) because in this notebook it's not booting from a Flash usb drive, but it boots on others.

Now I'm considering booting up an HP Compaq nx9010 via lan using PXE & this notebook as the webserver. Although I've tried it many times already, with different tweaks it never pass the point of loading the initrd.gz file.

So, I've d/l & installed PL528.005 (which I'm running now) frugally in the VAIO notebook. Was about to burn the iso for PL431 to a cd-rw to test the nx9010's ability to boot from cd (which in the past has been OK with PL431 & Ubuntu 8.04) but not recently & suddenly remembered that the Multipup thing never was finished. I'm decided to throw a stone trying to hit 2 birds with it: create (burn a cd with some puppies in it, including, if possible DSL as an alien) the Mutlipup cd & then use it to try again the PXE booting thing.

What do I have to do with the pet file I already have (in fact, have 2 files in the temporary folder: the pet & a gui file)? I d/l & installed it when working in PL528, so here in PL528.005 I don't have a Menu entry for it. I suspect that I've to run the PET file again for this, am I right? Is there, somewhere, a newer version of Multipup? I've browsed the thread again but didn't find any link to a new version of it.

Thanks for any help & hope this work with the PXE thing!

Edit: I was browsing my hdd & found out that I've the iso files for some puppies but I'm missing 2: Puppy Studio & DSL. What is your recommendation for me, to redownload them or there is a way of taking the files within each respective folder to make the iso from what I have?
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