Small Windowmanager Enlightenment DR 16-7

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#31 Post by MU » Tue 28 Feb 2006, 20:42

Puppy-Menu for e16:

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I updated the screenshots in thefirst message.

After installation, simply click it in ROX.
The first run takes some seconds, as it converts several icons.
Later you can run it again from the enlightenment-menu, for example after you installed a new Dotpup (Puppy - e16 - reload Puppy Menu).

Mark

cygnus · #32 Post by **cygnus** » Tue 28 Feb 2006, 21:02

I downloaded the screenshot and set is as my wallpaper just to see what it would look like.

I can't wait to try it. I hope it works well in 800 x 600 resolution.

Rhino · #33 Post by **Rhino** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 03:53

I just wanted to post a couple of screenshots so you can see how good Puppy can look if you want. I still really like jwm as the window manager since it simply works well. However, I know some people have complained that Puppy is "too plain looking" to catch on with the mainstream users and that it needs a snazzy wallpaper, but after you see Puppy with Enlightenment it is one of the best looking (and more importantly, running) OS's out there. I know that Enlightenment doesn't exactly fit Puppy's goals of being a simple, somewhat minimalist distro, but that is the great thing about it...you can customize 'til your heart's content.

Notice the wonderful transparency on the menus.

Rhino · #34 Post by **Rhino** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 04:04

For all of you image manipulators and gimp-minded folks out there.

Looking at the above wallpaper, just imagine a tiny Chihuahua chasing the Cheetah!

Go Puppy Go!

Lobster · #35 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 04:37

Rhino wrote:I just wanted to post a couple of screenshots so you can see how good Puppy can look if you want. I still really like jwm as the window manager since it simply works well.

I believe the current web-vernacular is "awesome"
I have to agree I use JWM (even though some questions recently as to its xvesa compatibility) quite happily

Of all the Wmangers I have tried in Puppy this Enlightenment seemed the one with the most tinkering potential

Maybe if we can simplify the dotpups needed into one script more people will try it . . .

This to me is Puppy at its best.
You follow Marks instructions. You create something really quite unique and you have fun with it. All the time you are aware that Puppy is fast and stable.

maybe we need to update our screenshots here:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PedigreePuppyP2

and here:
http://puppylinux.org/user/photogallery.php

#36 Post by MU » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 04:50

Rhino, that looks great!
How did you get the menu transparent?

Here is another theme, I had to modify it (replace fonts, add epplet-classes).
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Big screenshot: http://dotpups.de/dotpups/WindowManager ... ive-mu.jpg

Mark

#37 Post by MU » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 04:53

Lobster, I willmake a "all in one"-Dotpup next week.
First remove some minor bugs (wrong fonts in some themes),and add some scripts for easier handling.

When that is done, I'll throw all together

Rhino · #38 Post by **Rhino** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 05:04

To make the menus transparent just right click on the desktop...Desktop Background Settings.. and down at the bottom is the theme transparency settings. I have mine a 152. This tool also does a magnificent job of resizing images to perfectly fit the background in the Background image scaling and alignment.

If you right click on the desktop...Special Fx Settings, you can get some neat ripple and wave effects on the bottom of your screen.

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#39 Post by MU » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 05:28

oh yessss.... cool, that must be new in 16-7.
Thanks

Mark

Lobster · #40 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 09:29

MU wrote:Lobster, I willmake a "all in one"-Dotpup next week.
First remove some minor bugs (wrong fonts in some themes),and add some scripts for easier handling.

When that is done, I'll throw all together

[Much cheering and excited yelping]

Good news
It is time Puppy started looking less like Vesta (a sort of prepacked Microwave OS from Microphoney) wannabe

and more like the future OS it surely is

Smaller, Simpler, Faster
Woosh

bombayrockers · #41 Post by **bombayrockers** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 10:00

This looks very impressive, its tempting me to give up my present setup of icewm + rox, but I like to wait until MU releases the finished product.

cygnus · #42 Post by **cygnus** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 14:17

I was all geared up to install it, but I think I too will wait until the finished all-in-one dotPup is available. I still can't wait, though...

I think we should put together a Puplet called PuppyEnlightened, which features the Enlightenment desktop. I agree with Lobster - this is what Puppy should look like.

#43 Post by MU » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 14:52

you already can install now.
Now with the inbuilt menu it is quite easy to use.
And the dotpups all register to pupget,so you can remove them later easily (and delete /root/.enlightenment).
I added them all to the first message (except the last theme).

It would be good, to get a " feedback/todo -list", as some minor things are not ok.
For example the menu-editor seems not to be able to create new submenus. It can handle existiing ones, but just create no new ones.
If you open "files.menu", you see it adds "exec" instead of "menu".
So a small tool or patch might be needed to workaround that.
And some themes use fonts not available/usable in Puppy.
So default-fonts are used, which are too big for the epplets.

In the last creative-theme, I replaced all font-entries with Vera/6 to Vera/8.
Vera is the font of the default-theme "Winter".
So I symlinked the Creative-folder /ttfont to /usr/share/enlightenment/themes/winter/ttfonts
Like this that theme can use the Vera- truetype font.
This also will allow to keep the themes smaller, as I can remove nonworking fonts.
So a lot of small details.

modifiying themes
A theme works like this:
You put a themexyz.etheme in /usr/share/enlightenment/themes/
This is just a .tar.gz that automatically extracts to /root/.enlightenment/themes when it is chosen first time.
Then you can modify those files.
If everything is corrected, you make a new .tar.gz from the files inside /root/.enlightenment/themes/themexyz/
Then you rename it to themexyz-new.etheme

Not every theme you can download at http://freshmeat.net follows these rules - several were built for older versions.
So I had to repackage them to get them working in 16-7.

Mark

cygnus · #44 Post by **cygnus** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 15:34

I couldn't wait, I installed it now. It's incredible. I'm never going back to IceWM. I'll post screen shots later...

cygnus · #45 Post by **cygnus** » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 18:59

Even at 800 x 600, Enlightenment looks great...

Rhino · #46 Post by **Rhino** » Thu 02 Mar 2006, 01:55

That is a nice wallpaper, Cygnus. I also like the simple row of icons at the bottom.

How resource intensive is Enlightenment compared to the small Window Managers like IceWM or JWM? How can you tell?

At what specs would this Window Manager become too slow?

Nevermore · #47 Post by **Nevermore** » Thu 02 Mar 2006, 09:03

rhino i can tell you that on my 300mhz 192mb ram celeron the speed of jwm and enligh is the same.
the memory used is 10mb highter with enlightenment..
and unless u turn on the effects (ripples and waves) even the cpu seems as low as jwm.

#48 Post by MU » Thu 02 Mar 2006, 15:53

Theme-mix of Azteker2000/Azteker, heavily overworked.

Big Screenshot: http://dotpups.de/dotpups/WindowManager ... 000-mu.jpg

The launchbar on the left is part of the Theme, I "puppyfied" the entries.

Download (500 kb):
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Mark

#49 Post by MU » Thu 02 Mar 2006, 17:24

fixed BlackE_nob -theme

Big Screenshot:
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/WindowManager ... nob-mu.jpg

Download (250 kb):
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Mark

#50 Post by MU » Thu 02 Mar 2006, 18:04

fixed Darkone-theme:
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