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Here it is, testers welcome!

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02130

EDIT: 502-beta released:

See announcement:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02133

EDIT

It has happened again, another build of Wary, now 503, with 2.6.32.28 kernel:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02137

Feedback welcome!

EDIT: 504 (5.1 RC)

Again with 2.6.32.28 kernel. We are now on page 5 of this thread. I missed maddox's reply before creating 504.

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02146

I booted up the live cd and it found lots of my old wary save files on
the hard drive and I had it load a wary 094 save file which it updated.
I had hardware acceleration set on it and it's still working:
# glxgears
19283 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3856.400 FPS
19498 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3899.597 FPS
19487 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3897.219 FPS
19507 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3901.242 FPS
19470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3893.941 FPS
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 501

Chip description:
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RS780 01.00

Driver used by Xorg:
#card0driver

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
OpenGL
Vendor ATI Technologies Inc.
Renderer ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
Version 3.3.10243 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes

I had also installed icewm in 094 and 501 booted up in icewm, it seems
to have updated everything.

It's 3:27 AM here so it's off to bed for me now, will test more later.

edit: Sound is broken on the 094 save file update so I rebooted and let 501 load a 500 save file and it updated that, sound is working now.

Edit: I found my 094 cd and booted it with pfix=ram and sound is working fine so the upgrade must have broken sound going from 094 to 501.

I have just compared the performance of Wary 501 beta against Quirky 130 which performs very well on my old Acer laptop.

My gut feeling is that Quirky 130 runs faster than Wary. After boot before running any other programs Quirky has considerably more free memory than Wary. Hardinfo reports that Wary has under 5mb of free memory out of 189mb. Why is this?

Quirky 1.3 is booting with "pfix=nocopy" so the sfs is not loading into RAM. You can verify this by using the boot option "pfix=copy" and checking your memory again.

rcrsn51 wrote:Quirky 1.3 is booting with "pfix=nocopy" so the sfs is not loading into RAM. You can verify this by using the boot option "pfix=copy" and checking your memory again.

Thanks for the explanation. Does that mean it is best to boot with "pfix=nocopy" on a PC with limited RAM?

Thanks for the explanation. Does that mean it is best to boot with "pfix=nocopy" on a PC with limited RAM?

Have you tried it with Wary yet?

Manual frugal install of 501 on my main Linux box, no problems. Sound, internet and screen resolution all working and correct on initial boot.

Ethernet controller : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
Multimedia audio controller : VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (111MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 04 Feb 2011 05:33:17 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

Did another manual frugal install, this time on the old P3 test box.No problems on this install either...sound,internet and screen resolution all working fine on initial boot.
Added Htop, Mesa and Firefox 3.6.13.....everything working normally.

VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133
Multimedia audio controller : Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller
Ethernet controller : Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 253MB (110MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 05 Feb 2011 12:48:20 AM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation

rcrsn51 wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. Does that mean it is best to boot with "pfix=nocopy" on a PC with limited RAM?

Have you tried it with Wary yet?

Yes, briefly. Although initial free memory is higher it does not improve performance after opening a program or two. My conclusion is that Quirky 130 uses available resources more efficiently than Wary.

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 1.70GHz
Memory : 512MB (173MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 05 Feb 2011 02:42:23 AM GMT+5
-Display-
Resolution : 800x600 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa GLX Indirect
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4167B
ATA WDC WD400BB-00JH
SD/MMC Card Reader
**********************************************
Tuned into http://player.streamtheworld.com/_playe ... 6&nid=2920
for a few hours. Rebooted and sound gone. Retrovol icon on bottom right gone. Nothing fixes problem except going back to previous save file which I keep a copy of. Same problem on Wary 500.

Tried all flavors of Aqualung (SFS & pet). Sometimes it shows up in menu. None of them boots up the package. I need use of this program for work with disabled Vets and Seniors (My DOB 1930). Why? Because it is the only package which allows me to collect and copy Old Time Radio URL hyper-links into it and create play lists for extended listening. Here is a short sample of playlist file.:

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<aqualung_playlist>
<active/>
<has_active_track/>
<track>
<artist/>
<album/>
<title/>
<display/>
<file>http://www.freeotrshows.com/otr/b/bhop. ... .m3u</file>
<voladj>0.000000</voladj>
<size>0</size>
<duration>0.000000</duration>
<active/>
</track>

431 is the only Puppy with ultra stability and Aqualung acceptance.

Thank you to all puppy contributers for your great efforts from hundreds of Seniors and Vets.

There's a new version of mtpaint 3.34.65
https://github.com/wjaguar/mtPaint/comm ... a43da51d95

here's the news file:

* Name and location of user settings file is now configurable : See handbook section A.6.4 for details
* Drawing and fill tools now are 2-3 times faster
* Support for compiling with libpng 1.4, libjpeg 8a, and zlib 1.2.5 added
+ * Configure script rewritten, now understands standard variables and options for installation paths and (cross-)compilation settings
* Minimum required GTK+2 version now can be specified as configure option (e.g., "./configure gtk2.8")
* Workaround for bug in GTK+ versions 2.14.0 - 2.14.2, 2.16.0, 2.16.1 added (spin buttons had wrong max values)
* BUGFIX - Problems with editing large images at high zoom levels are now eliminated:

______________________________________________________


Changes in 3.34.64

* Tagalog translation added by Anjelo delCarmen
* Czech translation updated by Roman Hornik
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@ Here is a summary of the main changes in this release (see handbook for full det
* Image scaling, Gaussian blur, Unsharp mask and Difference of Gaussians effects now use multithreading to utilize all available CPU cores
* Moving the pointer with the arrow keys now scrolls the canvas when moving beyond the viewport
* Dragging selection frame in canvas window, layer in view window, or colour in palette window, beyond the viewport now scrolls the window
+ * "View->Snap To Tile Grid" restricts the positions of tools to tile grid points - B key toggles on/off
* sRGB colour scale generation added to palette editor
* sRGB gradients added
* Line tool now uses stroke gradient when no gradient placement exists
@@ -48,6 +49,7 @@ Here is a summary of the main changes in this release (see handbook for full det
* "Palette->Open" now can extract palette from indexed images in any supported file format
* "Scale Canvas" now has 3 boundary extension modes - Mirror, Tile, Void
* Filename and modified status now part of undo system
+ * New keyboard shortcuts added - J for lasso tool, D for line tool, F for flood fill tool
* Toolbar and menu icons are now themeable (Preferences->Paths->Default Theme)
* Command line globbing now possible using -w option, e.g. mtpaint -w "*.jpg"
* Loading default settings from /etc/mtpaint/mtpaintrc is now supported in Windows version

I have a suggestion.

Add the script 'wav2mp3' and set it up for
high quality mp3 conversion.

The script is available from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=189630

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I get this new error message in console 1 when booting 502beta:No other side effects. Computer is a Panasonic Toughbook CF-T2 with no CD or DVD drive.

Wary 502 live pfix=ram on my old P3 test box shows my optical drive (dvd) as "hdd" while 501 shows it as "sr0".Otherwise 502 seems to work normally.

emachine em350
1 gig ram
atom n450

worked ok.
when starting up i get the message:

choose where to load personal file
0 none
1 sdb1
2 sdb2

besides this, looks good.

loaded tuuxxs vlc and qt4 from program manager, works
good.

timremy

I am making this posting from another machine
using a KVM switch between.

After a while in use, I using PFIX=RAM, the machine
locks up and only control is the mouse!

The clock time is at a stand still also!

WHY?

I will do some more testing

Tui

I'm running 502 live with a save file, the hard drive shows up as hda1 and the
optical drives are hdc and hdd.

Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Memory 1554MB (264MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun 06 Feb 2011 08:27:22 AM EST
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 8x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738

Sound,network, and graphics were all correct on first bootup.

502 is working well on this 5 year old HP desktop.

choose where to load personal file
0 none
1 sdb1
2 sdb2

The -ide-kernel also has got the newer SATA drivers enabled inside, not as modules .

So if your [netbook]pc has got SATA joints for the drives, then they will show up as "sd" and not "hd"

Thanks Barry.
The 502beta does not recognize my ide drives (hdd and dvd) but ok with the sata and usb drives.
My both ide/sata is of the Marvell's and is problematic depends on the kernel, but is all ok with wary-500/lupu-510/puppy-431.

PS: got error message when running probedisk2: guess '#' is missing at the line 1357 in the init script in initrd.gz.

wary503 cures this problem.....

Hi Barry
Wary 502 has behaviour I've never encountered before on my Thinkpad 600 266MHz 196MB ram 2GB swap partition manual frugal installs.....

The cursor freezes then jumps,freezes then jumps, etc etc etc.

No other Puppy has ever done this....

Thanks for all your hard work for us all
Cheers
Peter