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Can XP track what USB Puppy does?
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ar774

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Feb 2011, 19:23    Post subject:  Can XP track what USB Puppy does?
Subject description: Question on data privacy while using Puppy Linux
 

I have successfully created a puppy linux bootable USB Flash drive and am able to boot my XP machine from a oower off into puppy linux.
The XP computer is given to me by my company

I want to keep my banking and other multimedia transactions private and not have the company track websites or files etc. So if i boot into puppy linux, any activity that i do will be private because i am on flash drive only with no usage of hard drive or can XP still track all the activity even when i have not powered the laptop using XP ?

please clarify

thanks
AR
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Feb 2011, 00:12    Post subject:  

The short answer is no. XP cannot be running when Puppy is running, therefore XP cannot know anything about what Puppy is up to -- unless Puppy is stupid enough to modify any XP files. Even then, XP won't know who did it.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Feb 2011, 00:48    Post subject:  

If you are a private individual Wardog might be of interest
http://www.greylodge.org/gpc/?p=1748
otherwise the cost is
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However a standard Puppy is fine
http://www.securecomputing.net.au/News/157767,nsw-police-dont-use-windows-for-internet-banking.aspx

Bank on Puppy
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Feb 2011, 11:24    Post subject:  

One variant of usage of "Puppy Linux" OS: booting from the CD, installation of programs from the CD, and at that there is no available devices such as HDD or Flash device - only FDD device is in use.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Feb 2011, 15:46    Post subject:  

postfs1 wrote:
One variant of usage of "Puppy Linux" OS: booting from the CD, installation of programs from the CD, and at that there is no available devices such as HDD or Flash device - only FDD device is in use.

That could only be a multisession CD or DVD, which Puppy excels at. Smile I've been running Puppy from a multisession DVD in a computer without a hard disk drive (or floppy disk drive) for about 5 years. It suits my computing needs perfectly. The only possible disadvantage I can see is that it takes longer to boot from multisession CD or DVD than from USB or hdd, and it requires at least 256 MB of RAM.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Mar 2011, 01:47    Post subject: Can XP track what USB Puppy does?
Subject description: traking
 

Hi,
You pose a great question, My answer is - Yes.
- The folks before me gave good answers to a point, and I think Flash has an excellent solution, I would ask, if there is a way for PUPPY to shut down the laptop hardrive, but onto my speal:

- Go do some work in (Puppy) an Office doc or spreadsheet, maybe write some emails.
- Reboot to Windows
- Do a search - My Computer - leave the file name open - set date for 1 day - click - Advanced Options and chkmark - system - hidden - subfolders
- I'll bet there are over 24 files showing log and dat extensions, among them will be the USB files and they will be in the logs guaranteed. If fastfind is enabled, the results are even worse.

- The one and only thing WIN does flawlessly is generate a tattletale group of logs, it even places them in a network server for you! - You have to shutdown 70% of the services, change the names of about 40 dll and exe files to stop most of this bahavior, and yet it still will produce over 5 logs as it "barely functions", but the extra 2/3 processor power released makes it unbelievably fast with standard programs ;)

- Now let us consider a document that is used in ms office and Puppy office - there may be changes of Fonts that are logged, of course some of the hidden editing changes can have time an date discrepancy.

- Geany produced documents will have a ms font substitution logged, as well as web pages created in Seamonkey.

- Images processed in both carry embedded info to be snatched and logged.

- Not wanting to belabor the problem by examples, the only sure way is use 2 seperate PCs, not interchanging USB stick. - That said, there are some interesting papers and products that could assist double use.

http://www.nirsoft.net/
- Help with understanding the forensic analysis techniques on a PC

http://truecrypt.org/
- A true on the fly encrption source, with some really deep white papers.

StandAloneApps.com
- I've down loaded a stick with most of these, but have yet to try them.

PortableApps.com
- Have a drive setup with these presently, the Suite opens and seems to operate, some of the other programs, Firefox 3+ will not run on w98 but is ok on xp, some of the other programs do write registry keys.
- Portable apps has a conversion feature for programs you own, I'm thinking of also using it to convert the Sandaloneapps programs, for they don't write registry keys.

Enjoy,
jay
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PostPosted: Tue 01 Mar 2011, 02:21    Post subject:  

Rolling Eyes

If you must . . .
disable the hard drive in the bios each time you use the USB
drive
If you feel really vulnerable (no reason to) then unplug the hard drive

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Mar 2011, 06:18    Post subject:  

No reason to mount the XP partition unless you want to read from it or write
to it.

Even if it were mounted, XP would be dumber than dumb. It's not even
running. For all intents and purposes, the XP partition is nothing but
thousands of inactive files.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Mar 2011, 09:56    Post subject:  

Quote:
No reason to mount the XP partition unless you want to read from it or write
to it.


Exactly so.
When you boot Puppy
this comes up
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boot:

If you now type in "puppy pfix=ram"
without the speech marks
Puppy runs in ram. Do not save your settings when you close down
Puppy is like a ghost. It was never on the computer . . .

Puppy Linux leaves no tracks
We iz canine ninja

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PostPosted: Tue 01 Mar 2011, 10:29    Post subject:  

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