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Are you ready for IPv6?
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Aitch


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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 22:42    Post subject:  Are you ready for IPv6?
Subject description: Is Freedom threatened?
 

Why is IPv6 even needed....well they say the web is running out of addresses because its 32bit code based

Wikipedia wrote:
IPv4 address exhaustion is the ultimate result of the decreasing availability of unallocated Internet Protocol Version 4 (IPv4) addresses at the regional Internet registries (RIRs) for assignment to end users and local Internet registries, such as Internet service providers. IPv4 provides for approximately 4.3 billion (232) addresses, divided into 256 /8 primary allocation blocks. Historically, the RIRs received blocks of IP addresses from the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA); however, IANA allocated its final /8 blocks of IP address space to the RIRs on February 3, 2011.[1][2][3] Asia-Pacific Network Information Centre will be the first RIR to run out of IPv4 addresses completely and this is expected to occur in mid-2011.[4]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion

Oops, ....it happened already [Feb 3rd, apparently...]

http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-02/internet-has-run-out-addresses-its-not-cause-panic-yet

http://inetcore.com/project/ipv4ec/index_en.html

So, What are the differences?

In Depth see

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v7r1m0/index.jsp?topic=/rzai2/rzai2compipv4ipv6.htm

Heavy duty implementation 'guide'

http://tinyurl.com/33pn5aw

Many things have been said about how nasty user identifiers have been added to packet headers so the thought police can trap/trace everyone's web use....but they can pretty much do that already...however, there are important changes being added, which may affect all of us, and I figure we should discuss it, and get some links up

Here's a couple/more tasters

http://www.lammle.com/blog/

http://version6.ru/en/ipv6-for-freedom

http://www.physorg.com/news11932.html

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-ipv6-internet-protocol-billion-space.html

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1742305

and there was that 'Egypt off the web' story...

Any thoughts/info about whether you have heard/know anything about the effects on freedom coming with IPv6....please post

Is there something we should know or do? [and I don't mean pass round the tin hats....]

Quote:
Stated in the Ruling of the Reno v. ACLU case by the Honorable Judges:
"As the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed, the Internet deserves the highest protection from government intrusions."
"Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacophony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment protects.
"


Censoring Artistic Expression

http://tinyurl.com/6c3tk4e

[yukky link/shortened....but it's the content]

http://fi-ghent.fi-week.eu/files/2010/12/1300-5cybercrimegis-1232793782782107-2.pdf


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PostPosted: Sun 15 Apr 2012, 21:51    Post subject:  

bump

http://www.worldipv6launch.org/

thanks to patelbhavesh

Terryphi gives implementation method for puppy 5

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69597

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2012, 03:32    Post subject: Are you ready for IPv6  

Hi Aitch,

I've probably missed seeing this in the discussion somewhere, but I understand that to be ready for ipv6,it may require one to get a new router or a firmware update as noted in this Wikipedia article here:
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Compatibility with IPv6 networking is mainly a software or firmware issue. However, much of the older hardware that could in principle be upgraded is likely to be replaced instead.


If this has already been discussed at length, then my apologies if I have brought up this concern needlessly.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Apr 2012, 06:24    Post subject: Re: Are you ready for IPv6  

Monsie wrote:
Hi Aitch,

I've probably missed seeing this in the discussion somewhere, but I understand that to be ready for ipv6,it may require one to get a new router or a firmware update as noted in this Wikipedia article here:
Quote:
Compatibility with IPv6 networking is mainly a software or firmware issue. However, much of the older hardware that could in principle be upgraded is likely to be replaced instead.


If this has already been discussed at length, then my apologies if I have brought up this concern needlessly.

Monsie


Yes, to get a native ipv6 connection you need a new router or a firmware upgrade if one exists for your old router (most unlikely!) However, it is even more complicated than that. I bought and tested a new 'ipv6 compatible router' and discovered it would not work with my ISP's ipv6 connection. Unlike ipv4, ipv6 routers need to be allocated an address and configured for the ISP's server - and they will only do it for you if they sell you the router. As far as I know only one ISP in the UK is interested in offering this service at present and their service charges are expensive.

For at least the next decade ISPs will offer dual-stack servers which offer ipv4 or ipv6 connections. The majority of existing websites will continue to offer an ipv4 connection ( in addition to ipv6 as time progresses.) There is no urgency in worrying about ipv6. Latest versions of Puppy can already be configured to be compatible with ipv6 but its firewall is not. If you want to play with ipv6 you can use a tunnelling service to reach the relatively small number of websites using ipv6. Essentially these are internet industry leaders such as Google wishing to show that they are on the cutting edge and hobbyist early adopters testing the technology.

The fact that ipv4 addresses are running out is a potential problem for anyone wishing to to set up a new domain, not users who browse to websites. Having said that, many web hosting companies I know have bought and stockpiled ipv4 addresses for future use.

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