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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 05:59    Post subject:  Converting media with Puppy 5.2
Subject description: recommended software?
 

Guys just got a simple DVD player for the TV.

It plays Divx and Avi as its media files
and can do this from RW-DVD's and USB - m m m . . . wonder if I can plug in a USB IDE harddrive?
think it is only flash drives . . .

What do you recommend for Puppy 5.2 to convert from other formats to divx and avi?
Many thanks Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 06:22    Post subject:  

What player is it?

Note that most DVD players that can play DivX/Xvid are usually fairly picky about the encoding of the videos that they can play. A list of things to watch out for when picking or encoding AVIs (or also .divx videos, if the player is DivX Ultra-compatible), can be found here: http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/295067-Common-DivX-DVD-Players-AVI-Playback-problems%21

I should also note that most of these players that can handle USB drives usually only read FAT-formatted drives, so no single file can exceed 4GB. (I don't remember the FAT limits for drive capacity, unfortunately.) Also, as most of the USB ports typically aren't powered, actual drives will likely have to have their own power source, which isn't a problem with flash/pen drives.
I couldn't guarantee a particular drive would work. Some have had luck getting a few WD drives (among others) to work with the Philips 5990, which is the player I'm using. (The 5990 also has some file and folder limitations on the USB drives, so you might want to read your manual to see if your player sets any limits on the external drives.).

I don't know offhand what you could use to convert video to a Divx/Xvid AVI and have control over the above criteria during the process; I haven't really tried much video encoding in Linux (that my Linux setup is on an old computer with only 128MB RAM and next to no HD space could have something to do with that... Embarassed )... maybe FFconvert and VLC's transcoder feature might help. Also, you might want to use MediaInfo to get information on the videos; it'll help you determine if there's anything about them that the players won't like.

Edit: Oh, I forgot. AVIDemux should be able to do it, though it can take a little bit of getting used to, and I've had mediocre luck with .MP4 videos using AVIDemux. Others claim to have had no problems with .MP4s, so your mileage may vary.

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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar 2011, 07:18    Post subject:  

It is a Toshiba SD2010
http://www.toshiba-om.net/DVD/PDF/English/Country_Specific/SD2010-English-Specific.pdf

Hope to have a working VLC soon so that is worth looking at, thanks for other advisement Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Mar 2011, 11:43    Post subject:  

Hi Lobster

My brother has a Toshiba DVD/DivX player ( not sure which model ), he does used an external laptop drive which has been formatted to FAT32 to store files. If you do use an external HDD, ensure that you have a power supply to power it.

Also it might be worth checking if it plays back AC3 audio as well, so try playing back an AVI encoded with MP3 as well as AC3.

OOps .... forgot to mention there was a 'XViD' build of Handbrake, available for Puppy 4.31 on the forum ( New builds of Handbrake have the XViD settings removed I'm led to believe ). From memory, once you have ripped the DVD to your PC, you just run Handbrake and it has a default setting for XViD, all you do is just select the display ie 4:3 - 16:9.

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PostPosted: Fri 11 Mar 2011, 14:02    Post subject:  

Thanks for help Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 11 Mar 2011, 15:51    Post subject:  

Yes, Handbrake removed support for AVI, DivX/Xvid and OGM output around 0.9.4, though their reasoning for doing so is a little off in places.

Quote:
Why did you drop XviD output?

HandBrake, these days, is almost entirely about H.264 video, aka MPEG-4 Part 10. This makes it rather...superfluous to include two different encoders for an older codec, MPEG-4 Part 2. When choosing between FFmpeg's and XviD's, it came down to a matter of necessity. We need to include libavcodec (FFmpeg) for a bunch of other parts of its API, like decoding, demuxing, and scaling. Meanwhile, XviD's build system causes grief (it's the most common support query we get about compiling, after x264's requirement of yasm). Since we mainly use MPEG-4 Part 2 for testing/debugging, and recommend only H.264 for high quality encodes, Xvid's undisputed quality edge over FFmpeg's encoder is inconsequential, while FFmpeg's speed edge over XviD is important to us.

Why did you drop AVI output?

AVI is a rough beast. It is obsolete. It does not support modern container features like chapters, muxed-in subtitles, variable framerate video, or out of order frame display. Furthermore, HandBrake's AVI muxer is vanilla AVI 1.0 that doesn't even support large files. The code has not been actively maintained since 2005. Keeping it in the library while implementing new features means a very convoluted data pipeline, full of conditionals that make the code more difficult to read and maintain, and make output harder to predict. As such, it is now gone. It is not coming back, and good riddance.

Why did you drop OGM output?

HandBrake's OGM muxer was just as out of date as its AVI muxer. It hasn't been actively maintained in years either, and it too lacks support for HandBrake's best features. It requires conditionals to work around missing functionality too...only this muxer got tested so infrequently the conditionals were never even put in the code, so it just fails when you try to do anything advanced. This one is not coming back either. And yes, we're aware of HTML 5. For patent-free muxing, HandBrake still has Matroska, which is a much better container anyway.


AVI does support muxed-in subtitles, for example. I've seen it, and even created a few for my previous DVD player. Also, .divx containers (which are really just .avi with a renamed extension, and some extras added) do support chapters, so it's reasonable to assume some third-party support could be added to AVI in general if anyone (other than DivX) wanted to bother.

Plus, MPEG-4 part 2 video (DivX/Xvid) is supported in an MP4 or MKV container (of course, not by Handbrake Smile )

I know, I know, it's their program, and they're free to support whatever they want in it. It's just that aspects of their reasoning bothers me a little, like the above. Embarassed

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 06:38    Post subject: Re: Converting media with Puppy 5.2
Subject description: recommended software?
 

Lobster wrote:
What do you recommend for Puppy 5.2 to convert from other formats to divx and avi?
Many thanks Smile


ffmpeg

http://www.ffmpeg.org/

http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html

Simple command line interface. Already there in Lucid 5.2. I used it for converting .flv into .avi. Worked well.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 13:40    Post subject:  

FFConvert, which I mentioned above, uses ffmpeg... not sure whether or not it uses mencoder and/or anything else, as well. I wasn't sure if Lobster wanted to mess around much with the command-line, though. Very Happy (And how much control FFConvert gives you over the parameters, since DivX/Xvid-capable DVD players do tend to be fairly critical about what they can play.)
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 22:54    Post subject:  

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wanted to mess around much with the command-line


Not if it can be avoided Wink
I did this (for example) and lost the quality of the original:
Code:
ffmpeg -i DAF.mkv DAF.avi

Now what? Confused
Parameter hunting? Have to write or search for a font end for ffmpeg? Wot no easy?
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Mar 2011, 23:47    Post subject:  

You can try shinobar's FFConvert, which I believe is a front-end to ffmpeg, possibly others. But as I haven't used it, I'm not sure how much control it gives you over ffmpeg (and how much it allows you to keep within the boundaries for a DivX/Xvid DVD player, as I mentioned above).

I know AVIDemux should be able to do it. I use it every now and then to convert for my player.

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Mar 2011, 00:37    Post subject:  

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You can try shinobar's FFConvert


Tried that - converting mkv to avi
The interface is simple. FFConvert created a 0 sized file. Have not got it working yet. Thanks for the link. Cool

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Dec 2011, 07:27    Post subject:  

I've been given a Panasonic DVD-S48.
It too plays DivX/avi files from a Flash Drive in its USB socket, so I need to be able to convert various other file formats [mov,mp4,mkv] to avi.

FFconvert is natively included in various Puppies, but I've no idea how to use it. Confused
Which choices need to be made?

Does anyone have links to instructions for use?

Is Handbrake any easier to use?
Any FUNCTIONING links to a PET file?
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Dec 2011, 03:06    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
FFconvert is natively included in various Puppies, but I've no idea how to use it. Confused

Choose the 'Preset', 'Xvid FullScreen' for example, and 'Load', then the default parameters will be set up.
Next, drag-n-drop source file and the destination directory, recommended under /mnt/home or some drive under /mnt.

Note that the FFconvert is a frontend of ffmpeg. Its performance depends on the ffmpeg on your Puppy.
For example, i had to update ffmpeg as for the Lucid-528.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70855&start=715
But Playdayz found no problem on Lucid-528.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70855&start=722

There is a topic on the FFconvert:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54056

BTW: Pburn can make DVD Video disks playable on usual DVD player. Again, it depends on the ffmpeg on your Puppy.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Dec 2011, 07:31    Post subject:  

Some info Here in my little blog.
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Feb 2017, 04:25    Post subject:  

Hi, I am wanting to convert an avi to an mp4 which is made with an MP4V codec (required for my samsung phone) but when I try it I get a message that my ffmpeg does not support that codec (although I do see some web tutorials that suggest MP4V should be part of ffmpeg.

Does anyone have any idea if some versions of ffmpeg can use the MP4V codec?

Here is what I get from my ffmpeg:
Code:
# ffmpeg -formats
ffmpeg version 2.0 Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the FFmpeg developers
  built on Jul 16 2013 10:17:34 with gcc 4.7.1 (GCC)
  configuration: --prefix=/usr --cpu=i686 --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-libfaac --enable-pthreads --enable-small --enable-postproc --enable-libvorbis --enable-gpl --enable-shared --enable-nonfree --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --disable-debug --enable-bzlib --enable-zlib --enable-libspeex --enable-version3 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-x11grab --enable-libdc1394 --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libtheora --enable-libxvid --enable-swscale --enable-libvpx
  libavutil      52. 38.100 / 52. 38.100
  libavcodec     55. 18.102 / 55. 18.102
  libavformat    55. 12.100 / 55. 12.100
  libavdevice    55.  3.100 / 55.  3.100
  libavfilter     3. 79.101 /  3. 79.101
  libswscale      2.  3.100 /  2.  3.100
  libswresample   0. 17.102 /  0. 17.102
  libpostproc    52.  3.100 / 52.  3.100
File formats:
 D. = Demuxing supported
 .E = Muxing supported
 --
  E 3g2             
  E 3gp             
 D  4xm             
  E a64             
 D  aac             
 DE ac3             
 D  act             ACT Voice file format
 D  adf             
 D  adp             
  E adts             
 DE adx             
 D  aea             
 D  afc             
 DE aiff             
 DE alaw             
 DE alsa             
 DE amr             
 D  anm             
 D  apc             
 D  ape             
 D  aqtitle         
 DE asf             
  E asf_stream       
 DE ass             
 DE ast             
 DE au               
 DE avi             
  E avm2             
 D  avr             
 D  avs             
 D  bethsoftvid     
 D  bfi             
 D  bin             
 D  bink             
 DE bit             
 D  bmv             
 D  boa             
 D  brstm           
 D  c93             
 DE caf             
 DE cavsvideo       
 D  cdg             
 D  cdxl             
 D  concat           
  E crc             
 DE data             
 DE daud             
 D  dfa             
 DE dirac           
 DE dnxhd           
 D  dsicin           
 DE dts             
 D  dtshd           
 DE dv               
 D  dv1394           
  E dvd             
 D  dxa             
 D  ea               
 D  ea_cdata         
 DE eac3             
 D  epaf             
 DE f32be           
 DE f32le           
  E f4v             
 DE f64be           
 DE f64le           
 D  fbdev           
 DE ffm             
 DE ffmetadata       
 D  film_cpk         
 DE filmstrip       
 DE flac             
 D  flic             
 DE flv             
  E framecrc         
  E framemd5         
 D  frm             
 DE g722             
 DE g723_1           
 D  g729             
 DE gif             
 D  gsm             
 DE gxf             
 DE h261             
 DE h263             
 DE h264             
  E hls             
 D  hls,applehttp   
 DE ico             
 D  idcin           
 D  idf             
 D  iff             
 DE ilbc             
 DE image2           
 DE image2pipe       
 D  ingenient       
 D  ipmovie         
  E ipod             
 DE ircam           
  E ismv             
 D  iss             
 D  iv8             
 DE ivf             
 DE jacosub         
 D  jv               
 DE latm             
 D  lavfi           
 D  libdc1394       
 D  lmlm4           
 D  loas             
 D  lvf             
 D  lxf             
 DE m4v             
  E matroska         
 D  matroska,webm   
  E md5             
 D  mgsts           
 DE microdvd         
 DE mjpeg           
  E mkvtimestamp_v2 
 DE mlp             
 D  mm               
 DE mmf             
  E mov             
 D  mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 
  E mp2             
 DE mp3             
  E mp4             
 D  mpc             
 D  mpc8             
 DE mpeg             
  E mpeg1video       
  E mpeg2video       
 DE mpegts           
 D  mpegtsraw       
 D  mpegvideo       
  E mpjpeg           
 D  mpl2             
 D  mpsub           
 D  msnwctcp         
 D  mtv             
 DE mulaw           
 D  mv               
 D  mvi             
 DE mxf             
  E mxf_d10         
 D  mxg             
 D  nc               
 D  nistsphere       
 D  nsv             
  E null             
 DE nut             
 D  nuv             
 DE ogg             
 DE oma             
 DE oss             
 D  paf             
 D  pjs             
 D  pmp             
  E psp             
 D  psxstr           
 D  pva             
 D  pvf             
 D  qcp             
 D  r3d             
 DE rawvideo         
 D  realtext         
 D  redspark         
 D  rl2             
 DE rm               
 DE roq             
 D  rpl             
 D  rsd             
 DE rso             
 DE rtp             
 DE rtsp             
 DE s16be           
 DE s16le           
 DE s24be           
 DE s24le           
 DE s32be           
 DE s32le           
 DE s8               
 D  sami             
 DE sap             
 D  sbg             
  E sdl             
 D  sdp             
  E segment         
 D  shn             
 D  siff             
 DE smjpeg           
 D  smk             
  E smoothstreaming 
 D  smush           
 D  sol             
 DE sox             
 DE spdif           
 DE srt             
  E stream_segment,ssegment 
 D  subviewer       
 D  subviewer1       
  E svcd             
 DE swf             
 D  tak             
 D  tedcaptions     
  E tee             
 D  thp             
 D  tiertexseq       
 D  tmv             
 DE truehd           
 D  tta             
 D  tty             
 D  txd             
 DE u16be           
 DE u16le           
 DE u24be           
 DE u24le           
 DE u32be           
 DE u32le           
 DE u8               
  E v4l2             
 DE vc1             
 DE vc1test         
  E vcd             
 D  video4linux2,v4l2 
 D  vivo             
 D  vmd             
  E vob             
 D  vobsub           
 DE voc             
 D  vplayer         
 D  vqf             
 DE w64             
 DE wav             
 D  wc3movie         
  E webm             
 DE webvtt           
 D  wsaud           
 D  wsvqa           
 DE wtv             
 DE wv               
 D  x11grab         
 D  xa               
 D  xbin             
 D  xmv             
  E xv               
 D  xwma             
 D  yop             
 DE yuv4mpegpipe     
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