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Hey All,
I have just got Wary 5.1.1 running from my hard disk. (frugal install).
It found my hardware and started X; and connects to the internet.
I'm typing from sea-monkey now!
Very win95!
But I keep double clicking to open things and get 2 windows! is this configurable?
Anyway, having got it going I wanted to exit and save my settings and restart it normally but these menu entries do nothing

menu/shutdown/power-off computer
menu/shutdown/Exit to prompt
menu/shutdown/Reboot computer

What do I do now?
pull the plug?

Very win95!

At first-- but its possible to customize. When you want, for example, you can remove most of the icons ( right click --> remove item [don't put it in the trash)]. You can install wbar for a "apple-style" launch bar, new wallpaper, desktop "widgets, etc.

As you discovered, single clicks rule here. I quickly got used to it. (maybe somebody else knows how to switch to double taps and can help)

Anyway, having got it going I wanted to exit and save my settings and restart it normally but these do nothing

menu/shutdown/power-off computer
menu/shutdown/Exit to prompt
menu/shutdown/Reboot computer

the first time you power-off, puppy will lead you through a series of prompts to create a "savefile" which keeps your settings, etc. Just follow the instructions and you should be ok

But how do I power-off? the shutdown menus do nothing!.

single click will open stuff. Duoble click will open two stuff.

Yes, you can change this.

Open the file manger, rt click, options.

Choose single click navigator under filer

Uncheck single click to open under pinboard.

Try. Crtl-Alt-Delete, then type "poweroff'

Try running the shutdown script in /etc/rc.d

Check if you have a corrupted download. md5sum or something

EDIT: Repeated post
EDIT2:http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58921
Its Pupshutdown, a nice gui. Might help.

Thanks for the help,

Cnt-alt-del does nothing either.
I checked the md5 when I got it.

how do I shut down X. can I do it from within a terminal?
will power-off work from a terminal?

or will the above upset X?

Im so sry! i meant to say "crtl-alt-backspace"

Thankyou,

That worked a treat.

Anyway, having got it going I wanted to exit and save my settings and restart it normally but these menu entries do nothing

menu/shutdown/power-off computer
menu/shutdown/Exit to prompt
menu/shutdown/Reboot computer

This is not normal result. Shutdown menu items usually work very well.
What are the specs of your computer?
Give specific info on how you did the frugal install.

Hey bigpup,

I manually extracted the files and copied them across. I just wanted something running.

Current hardware is as follows,

Duron 700 Mhz, VIA chipset
384MB ram
STB Velocity 4MB AGP graphics (Riva VPU)
HDD with GRUB2 in MBR & 4 partitions
-sda1 ext2 (boot) with grub and puppy kernel
-sda2 fat16 (xfer)
-sda5 swap
-sda6 ext2 with directory containing,
* initrd.gz
* wary_511.sfs
* warysave.3fs

I do want to move the HDD to other hardware, will puppy detect this change and load the appropriate things?

This may be relevant, when I "poweroff" it shuts down puppy but doesnt shut down the ATX power supply.

matt

ps
is initrd kept in ram?
where is root switched to? (a point on initrd?)

mattrix wrote: Very win95!

Very false.

It very Unix.

~

Using Lupu 5.20

I've had a similar problem. After this topic started I did some testing, and
have some success to report.

First: I do an orderly shutdown. Close all applications, exit to prompt,
then type reboot

Without a long boring description, I will just say, it wasn't behaving like it
should. Usually it would reboot. Sometimes I'd have to help it with a three
finger salute. On a couple occasions, the kill button.

Experimenting, I typed in this command:

reboot;reboot

So far it works every time.

~

Bruce B wrote:
It very Unix.

~

I believe you.
I've never seen a graphical interface on Unix.

Mine seems to reboot OK.

I just need 3 fingers to get out of X.
And to hit the kill switch to shut off the power supply.

Looking at where you have Puppy installed.
Looks like you have a frugal install of Puppy.
Usually all the Puppy files are installed to the same location.
Should be 4 files when you make a save file.
* initrd.gz
* wary_511.sfs
* warysave.3fs
* vmlinuz

Could be chance your download of Puppy was not good.
Noticed you have a .3fs save file on an ext2 formatted partition. Should not cause problem, but who knows.

-sda1 ext2 (boot) with grub and puppy kernel

Not sure what you mean by Puppy kernel, but do not think this is needed.
The 3 Puppy files from the Puppy ISO and a save file is all you need for a frugal install.
Yes a bootloader to boot it.

Mattrix,

A person who only knows Windows will have some kind of cultural adjustment to
make.

A person who knew Unix will feel right at home.

Our desktops are highly configurable and replaceable. They can be what we want
them to be.

I downloaded Puppy 215CE and booted it. A friend saw the desktop and marveled at
how beautiful and striking it was.

Try it for the price of a CD

Keyboard shortcuts:

To kill X server: leftAlt+leftCtrl+Backspace

The 'three finger salute' for rebooting: leftAlt+leftCtrl+Delete

And to hit the kill switch to shut off the power supply.

If you mean what I think you mean, you will damage things. Not hardware, rather
software.

You need to be able to shut it off with proper commands, or at least get it to
the BIOS reboot level before using the Off Button.

Until then, you have a problem which needs to remain open and debugged.

Bruce

~

If you mean what I think you mean, you will damage things.

No I dont! Poweroff shuts down puppy but doesnt shut down the ATX power supply.

Hello mattrix

mattrix wrote:Poweroff shuts down puppy but doesnt shut down the ATX power supply.

Have you tried adding "acpi=force" (without the quotes) to your GRUB entry for Wary ?

I am not familiar with Grub2, so i cannot give you specific instructions myself,
but hopefully the information in this link may help you

If you are unsure about anything, i suggest that you post in that thread and ask for help.

CatDude
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menu/shutdown/power-off computer
menu/shutdown/Exit to prompt
menu/shutdown/Reboot computer

What do I do now?


My solution:
I had a similar problem with wary 5.1.2 today.
What worked for me to fix it was to make the file
/etc/windowmanager contain jwm

After that all those work just fine. Something I did must have changed it. The shutdown programs in
/usr/bin sort-of look for the window manager so that they know what process to kill.
Hope this helps. It helped me.

The scripts to leave X are "wmexit" , "wmreboot" , "wmpoweroff" and "restartwm" . "which" command shows the location of executables .

Take a look into /tmp/xerrs.log for error messages .