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PostPosted: Thu 24 Mar 2011, 21:45    Post subject:  RoboPup: Android on linux  

Barry's recent talk got me thinking about the utility of small libraries, which led me to bionic and thus Android. At first I figured it would be mission impossible, getting a dev kit, finding the sources... you name it.
Then I did some poking around and concluded,
It should now be possible to build Android for linux:
gcc-4.6 was released last week, providing support for bionic libc and the Go language.
ALL the sources are here: android.git.kernel.org/
they appear to be using cutdown stlport for the C++ library called astl.

known issues:
gtk requires wchar which bionic lacks ... use only dalvic vm, or patch it with wchar maybe?
untested waters may equal lots of patching
3.X source release is delayed [to protect users from themselves]

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Mar 2011, 19:02    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Android-x86-53904.shtml

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PostPosted: Mon 25 Apr 2011, 19:48    Post subject:  

Wha?? O.o Android is a custom Linux just as Mac OS and iOS O.O lol...
EDIT:: Also as Puppy And Debian :O
Android is buildable but obvioussly it's not an application. But You can Build an *Emulator* For that case since there are a lot of Emulators (But Only 1 for Linux which requires JDK (SDK) And A Bunch of Libraries but thats cause the Emulator is actually the Android SDK no complete system there)

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2011, 10:48    Post subject:  

Am surprised that no tablet makers approached Mr. B.K till now ?!

please excuse my ignorance but why android using MirBSD korn shell in debug mod?

I respect copyrights but just a noobie Embarassed question:
can a tablet be rooted with a custom created " droid puppy "Rolling Eyes
for sure users wouldn't get that error message most android users get :
“the process android.process.acore has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again”
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Jul 2011, 21:14    Post subject:  

Apps can be created
http://www.appsbar.com/

Firefox can be modifried [sic]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_2_Gecko Cool

Just got Android running on my Eeepc Cool
Very Cool . . .

I used UNetbootin which offers to install distros (including Android)
to USB.
UNetbootin is available some place for Puppy but I used
Pinguy Linux which was on my hard disk . . .

Having problems with wifi (as usual - may be signal strength)

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 17:36    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:
Apps can be created
http://www.appsbar.com/

Firefox can be modifried [sic]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_2_Gecko Cool

Just got Android running on my Eeepc Cool
Very Cool . . .

I used UNetbootin which offers to install distros (including Android)
to USB.
UNetbootin is available some place for Puppy but I used
Pinguy Linux which was on my hard disk . . .

Having problems with wifi (as usual - may be signal strength)
people have mentioned the keyboard interface as being non android compatible. There is the app that flies helicopters via android, Wifi, and multi-point touch screen which is still one of my latent wishes for my hardware. not touch screen but perhaps arrow keys. Not necessarily helicopter but some mechanical action via Wifi
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 17:40    Post subject:  

Even though I have never used a technology that I've seen demo 2 years ago, there is a technology which using your device's camera (s), will interpret your gestures in some meaningful way. This is NOT futuristic. But, its integration and acceptance will be key.

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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 21:14    Post subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
Even though I have never used a technology that I've seen demo 2 years ago, there is a technology which using your device's camera (s), will interpret your gestures in some meaningful way. This is NOT futuristic. But, its integration and acceptance will be key.

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image processing. yes sounds like a good idea. I should make time to look deeply into it. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Feb 2012, 21:54    Post subject:  

http://code.google.com/p/gentoo-bionic/
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2012, 11:02    Post subject: Linux on Androids  

Android phones/tablets: 1 Ghz processor, 32 Gb Memory, 400,000+ apps. 400,000+ apps? I can't keep track of 50 programs. Seems like they've built a power plant and all they're able to do with it is light scattered Christmas Tree bulbs.
The best thing about Smartphones/Tablets are their touch-screens. While it would be nice to be able to create Android apps under Linux (especially Puppy) it would be great to port Puppy to a Smartphone/Tablet. Requires two obvious steps: Develop the firmware/drivers to utilize the touch-screen. Develop, for example, Grub4Dos to handle booting Android and enable dual booting.

Just my 2 cents.

@ Lobster. Over the last 6 months, I've twice installed Android to a USB Key and booted Asus 701SD with it. Clunky operating system: no touch screen. Neither time would the wifi connect.

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PostPosted: Thu 01 Mar 2012, 15:34    Post subject: Re: Linux on Androids  

mikeslr wrote:
... @ Lobster. Over the last 6 months, I've twice installed Android to a USB Key and booted Asus 701SD with it. Clunky operating system: no touch screen. Neither time would the wifi connect.
@Lobster, I have had several opportunities to boot Android on a Intel based touchscreen platform.

You MAY want to use a touchscreen platform to see how this behaves. It allows you to mimic what you may be doing with your smartfhone on a Intel/AMD tocuchscreen platform. The problems (WiFi) encountered revolve around the OS's ability to discover the chipset and device features. This is a normal Linux (Microsoft too) issue as depending on others who have hurdle thiis for guidance on resolution.

To my knowldege, Lenovo, Dell, and Gateway (and I believe HP) have all built working examples of this on their desktop PCs. In the HP arena, I believe much more info is available as a lot more experiments have been successful in the public domain.

Yes, its a driver issue, but, you'll need to search around for how to add the driver to your system for the success you desire.

Should you have success, I have already seen one user who has done something using an HP TouchSmart 23" running it as an Android. He has somehow managed to get both SkyPE and GoogleVoice to operate for receiving and making telephone calls

I am still considering purchasing a HP TouchSmart because it is the Rolls-Royce of the computer world for persons like me.

Hope this helps

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