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New kernel 2.6.38.4 for puppy/lupu/quirky/WOOF-BUILDER
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Apr 2011, 05:25    Post subject:  

wuxiandianzi. Thank you of your kernel and hard work with initial building.
I wont confuse this thread more. I have used my compiled kernel now couple of days and i will follow this thread intensively. I have made Snow Puppy now with 2.6.38.2 kernel and I will watch bug reports through Snow Puppy thread.

Thank you.
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wuxiandianzi


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Apr 2011, 05:31    Post subject: hahaha  

pemasu wrote:
wuxiandianzi. Thank you of your kernel and hard work with initial building.
I wont confuse this thread more. I have used my compiled kernel now couple of days and i will follow this thread intensively. I have made Snow Puppy now with 2.6.38.2 kernel and I will watch bug reports through Snow Puppy thread.

Thank you.



congratuations to you!

the kernel you compiled has something wrong run on my pc

I do not know why, the config has lot of diffrent with mine.

I recompile 29 times. now is ok.
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Terryphi


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Apr 2011, 05:45    Post subject:  

wuxiandianzi: your kernel works for me using the manual method. Pemasu's does not. I had a problem with your 2.6.38.2.sfs not being loaded. Possibly this is a layer issue. I copied the contents manually into a running version replacing the old files and it saved into the pupsave file. On reboot it worked with new kernel modules and firmware. Sound and eth0 connection work OK.

However, there is a problem with the Boot Manager for additional SFS files. It now pops up at every boot and the selected SFS files are not remembered on reboot.

Also, my webcam is not now recognised.

Thanks for all your work. If this method of kernel upgrade can be made to work 100% it would be great!
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wuxiandianzi


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PostPosted: Sun 10 Apr 2011, 06:26    Post subject: hi  

Terryphi wrote:
wuxiandianzi: your kernel works for me using the manual method. Pemasu's does not. I had a problem with your 2.6.38.2.sfs not being loaded. Possibly this is a layer issue. I copied the contents manually into a running version replacing the old files and it saved into the pupsave file. On reboot it worked with new kernel modules and firmware. Sound and eth0 connection work OK.

However, there is a problem with the Boot Manager for additional SFS files. It now pops up at every boot and the selected SFS files are not remembered on reboot.

Also, my webcam is not now recognised.

Thanks for all your work. If this method of kernel upgrade can be made to work 100% it would be great!




Terryphi:
you can rebuild your XXX.sfs
for example:
mkdir /mnt/sda1/pup1
mkdir /mnt/sda1/pup2
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
cp XXX.sfs /mnt/sda1
cd /mnt/sda1
mount -o loop XXX.sfs pup1
cd pup1
cp -a * ../pup2
umount XXX.sfs
then copy 2.6.38.2 to ../lib/modules/ delete your original kernel modules

mksquashfs pup2 pup-432.sfs

and tar your initrd.gz
copy little modules like that in. delete original. then rebuild it

it is will run 100% ok
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fraschmi

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 10:24    Post subject:  

Hello,

I have 2 questions.

Which patches and .config did you both use to compile with vanilla kernel ?

Is there a noticeable improvement on video playback, especially with old Cpu's (P3 1Ghz), with the new group scheduling feature introduced in kernel 2.6.38 ? (CONFIG_SCHED_AUTOGROUP=y)


Greetings,
Frank
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wuxiandianzi


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 11:13    Post subject: 你好  

fraschmi wrote:
Hello,

I have 2 questions.

Which patches and .config did you both use to compile with vanilla kernel ?

Is there a noticeable improvement on video playback, especially with old Cpu's (P3 1Ghz), with the new group scheduling feature introduced in kernel 2.6.38 ? (CONFIG_SCHED_AUTOGROUP=y)


Greetings,
Frank


re:fraschmi
谢谢您参与测试!
Yes,I had patched the aufs2.1 patch to the kernel 2.6.38.2
The .config has (CONFIG_SCHED_AUTOGROUP=y) .
If you boot this new kernel,you will find it runs fast than any other .
The .config also enable LZO and xz to squashfs
CONFIG_SQUASHFS_LZO=y
CONFIG_SQUASHFS_XZ=y

I had compiled some other drivers such as r8168 and Itelmodem net driver and nvidia disp driver.
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wuxiandianzi


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Apr 2011, 12:25    Post subject: hi  

piratesmack wrote:
Seems to be working ok here.

I added your kernel to lupu 525 and compressed the main sfs with xz.
That shrunk the ISO down to about 109M (from 128M)

Lupu devx.sfs is down to 117M (from 139M)

I can upload my ISO if anybody wants it.


HI piratesmack
Can you tell me how to compressed the main sfs with xz. ?
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sszindian


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 00:16    Post subject: lupu_xz-525.iso  

piratesmack:

Downloaded... Run from CD... Everything seemed OK except, NO SOUND.

lupu_xz-525.iso

My sound card is-

Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)

ALSA Sound Wizard just couldn't set it up, looks like driver must be missing for this card?

Other than that, works just like the regular 525.

Is there any fix for this yet?

If I might ask, what advantage is the 38 Kernel over the 33 Kernel now in 525?

>>>---Indian------>
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wuxiandianzi


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 01:19    Post subject: Re: lupu_xz-525.iso  

sszindian wrote:
piratesmack:

Downloaded... Run from CD... Everything seemed OK except, NO SOUND.

lupu_xz-525.iso

My sound card is-

Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)

ALSA Sound Wizard just couldn't set it up, looks like driver must be missing for this card?

Other than that, works just like the regular 525.

Is there any fix for this yet?

If I might ask, what advantage is the 38 Kernel over the 33 Kernel now in 525?

>>>---Indian------>


HI sszindian
Yes,the kernel compiled long long ago.
I have recompiled yesterday,and built the puppy-5.25-XZ.iso
Please download here :thunder://QUFodHRwOi8vd3d3LmVlbG9hZC5jb20vQ2xpY2svZWZiZjFhNWY1ZmVkNjc1YVpa

or here :http://www.minilinux.net/node/1923

thank you!
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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 02:40    Post subject: Re: lupu_xz-525.iso  

sszindian wrote:
piratesmack:

Downloaded... Run from CD... Everything seemed OK except, NO SOUND.

lupu_xz-525.iso

My sound card is-

Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)

ALSA Sound Wizard just couldn't set it up, looks like driver must be missing for this card?

Other than that, works just like the regular 525.

Is there any fix for this yet?

If I might ask, what advantage is the 38 Kernel over the 33 Kernel now in 525?

>>>---Indian------>



Same problem here. Very Happy
Also, same problem with wuxiandianzi's new iso as well.

I got sound working though. I went to the Ubuntu Lucid main repo and downloaded all the Alsa stuff. Laughing


debconf_1.5.28ubuntu4|debconf|1.5.28ubuntu4||System|924K|pool/main/d/debconf|debconf_1.5.28ubuntu4_all.deb|+debconf-i18n|Debian configuration management system|
debconf-i18n_1.5.28ubuntu4|debconf-i18n|1.5.28ubuntu4||BuildingBlock|1136K|pool/main/d/debconf|debconf-i18n_1.5.28ubuntu4_all.deb|+debconf,+liblocale-gettext-perl,+libtext-iconv-perl,+libtext-wrapi18n-perl,+libtext-charwidth-perl|full internationalization support for debconf|
liblocale-gettext-perl_1.05-6|liblocale-gettext-perl|1.05-6||BuildingBlock|108K|pool/main/libl/liblocale-gettext-perl|liblocale-gettext-perl_1.05-6_i386.deb|+libc6|Using libc functions for internationalization in Perl|
libtext-charwidth-perl_0.04-6|libtext-charwidth-perl|0.04-6||BuildingBlock|92K|pool/main/libt/libtext-charwidth-perl|libtext-charwidth-perl_0.04-6_i386.deb|+libc6,+perl-base,+perlapi-5.10.0|get display widths of characters on the terminal|
libtext-iconv-perl_1.7-2|libtext-iconv-perl|1.7-2||BuildingBlock|108K|pool/main/libt/libtext-iconv-perl|libtext-iconv-perl_1.7-2_i386.deb|+libc6,+perl-base,+perlapi-5.10.0|converts between character sets in Perl|
libtext-wrapi18n-perl_0.06-7|libtext-wrapi18n-perl|0.06-7||BuildingBlock|68K|pool/main/libt/libtext-wrapi18n-perl|libtext-wrapi18n-perl_0.06-7_all.deb|+libtext-charwidth-perl|internationalized substitute of Text::Wrap|
linux-sound-base_1.0.22.1+dfsg|linux-sound-base|1.0.22.1+dfsg|0ubuntu3|BuildingBlock|132K|pool/main/a/alsa-driver|linux-sound-base_1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3_all.deb|+debconf,+module-init-tools|base package for ALSA and OSS sound systems|
lsof_4.81.dfsg.1-1build1|lsof|4.81.dfsg.1-1build1||BuildingBlock|448K|pool/main/l/lsof|lsof_4.81.dfsg.1-1build1_i386.deb|+libc6|List open files|
alsa-base_1.0.22.1+dfsg|alsa-base|1.0.22.1+dfsg|0ubuntu3|Filesystem|472K|pool/main/a/alsa-driver|alsa-base_1.0.22.1+dfsg-0ubuntu3_all.deb|+lsof,+module-init-tools,+linux-sound-base,+udev|ALSA driver configuration files|
libnewt0.52_0.52.10|libnewt0.52|0.52.10|5ubuntu1|BuildingBlock|876K|pool/main/n/newt|libnewt0.52_0.52.10-5ubuntu1_i386.deb|+libc6,+libslang2|Not Erik's Windowing Toolkit - text mode windowing with slang|
whiptail_0.52.10|whiptail|0.52.10|5ubuntu1|BuildingBlock|96K|pool/main/n/newt|whiptail_0.52.10-5ubuntu1_i386.deb|+libc6,+libnewt0.52,+libpopt0,+libslang2|Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell scripts|
alsa-utils_1.0.22|alsa-utils|1.0.22|0ubuntu5|BuildingBlock|2008K|pool/main/a/alsa-utils|alsa-utils_1.0.22-0ubuntu5_i386.deb|+libasound2,+libc6,+libncursesw5,+whiptail,+module-init-tools,+lsb-base,+linux-sound-base,+udev,+upstart-job|ALSA utilities|


Probably be easier to just enable the Ubuntu Lucid main repo, type "Alsa "in the search box,then download the 2 main packages and those dependencies.
I did get the sound working though.
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wuxiandianzi


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 02:51    Post subject: Re: lupu_xz-525.iso  

James C :
Thank you for your advice.I want to know that you said my new iso with same problem? I am confused because the new iso was build this moring,and almost everything runs ok now, the alsaconf should run after boot then restart jwm.at last you should set "ac97 module" in alsamixer.
see here:http://www.minilinux.net/node/1923
thanks!
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James C


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PostPosted: Thu 14 Apr 2011, 03:01    Post subject: Re: lupu_xz-525.iso  

wuxiandianzi wrote:
James C :
Thank you for your advice.I want to know that you said my new iso with same problem? I am confused because the new iso was build this moring,and almost everything runs ok now, the alsaconf should run after boot then restart jwm.at last you should set "ac97 module" in alsamixer.
see here:http://www.minilinux.net/node/1923
thanks!


That is the link I downloaded. Nice fast server. Smile

Did a frugal install on my old P3 test box with onboard Intel audio chip. No sound..No mixer in the taskbar.
Tried Alsamixer......it immediately crashed. Tried Alsa Sound Wizard, it appeared to be working until time to play the sample sound then it crashed as well.
Installed the Alsa packages, mixer appeared in the taskbar and the sound works.
May work on some hardware, but the sound did not work here.That's what testing is for..
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fraschmi

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2011, 06:52    Post subject:  

Hello.

I have no sound too.

All modules are correctly loaded.
Alsaconf find the Card but can't find a mixer to play the Testsample. Card '0' cant be found.
aplay -l can't find a sound device.

The Ubuntu Lucid "Alsa Pack" inclusive dependencies doesn't help.

However in Pemasus Icepuppy sound seems to work.

Greetings,
Fraschmi
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mill0001

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Location: "People's Republik of Kalifornia"

PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2011, 17:07    Post subject:  

Hi guys,
I used the kernel from Pemasu's puplet to go from .33 kernel to .38 in Puppy5.25. Evderything works good but had to dl nvidia driver from Snow pup site to use with my new kernel. Thanks for the hard work guys just started testing a little while ago and so far it's all good.
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jogreer

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Apr 2011, 19:32    Post subject: Sound problem  

This is great with kernel 2.6.38.2, BUT the sound card isn't recognized, at least not by alsamixer. Alsaconf finds the card and configures it but the mixer is broken. The card is a Intel Corp 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW AC'97 Audio Controller. Second thing is that APM/ACPI or whatever it is called does not appear to load up correctly, because the battery is not recognized by powerapplet_tray.

Also after looking through /var/log/messages, I find following messages:
Apr 17 23:31:17 puppypc user.warn kernel: udevd (1248): /proc/1248/oom_adj is deprecated, please use /proc/1248/oom_score_adj instead.
Apr 17 23:31:17 puppypc user.warn kernel: ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for AC is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER cleared
Apr 17 23:31:17 puppypc user.warn kernel: ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER cleared
Apr 17 21:31:38 puppypc user.notice powerapplet: Abort, no /proc/apm or acpi/info
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