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bigpup


Joined: 11 Oct 2009
Posts: 5235
Location: Charleston S.C. USA

PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 11:40    Post_subject:  Lucid Puppy 5.25 Feedback and Bug Reports
Sub_title: Bugs and any problems
 

Post any bugs or problems with Lucid Puppy 5.25

When you describe problem, please give following information:
How you are running Lucid Puppy 5.25
What are your computer specs.
Be as detailed as possible about the problem or bug.

There is now an update for Lucid Puppy 5.2.5
Lucid Puppy 5.2.5 Instant Update 001

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67243

If you have an older computer. This version of Lucid Puppy 5.2.5 may work better.
Lucid Puppy 525 Retro

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67724

Things that may be of help:

If you are having problems with wifi and modems you may find help with new drivers and info here:
Extras for Puppy 5.1 with 2.6.33.2 kernel
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59000

Lucid Puppy Help
http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/index4.html

Lucid Puppy Tweaks
http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/LupuNews/index2.html

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PaulBx1

Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 2308
Location: Wyoming, USA

PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 15:22    Post_subject:  

Finally 525 gets a bug thread! That's nice. Now we have two...

Fix your ugly menu problem here (bug present since 5.0):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66569

Next problem, I tried upgrading my USB flash drive (which was at 511) and it broke it - good thing I backed up first!

511 uses extlinux.sys and extlinux.conf. 525 apparently uses ldlinux.sys and it should have syslinux.conf according to the syslinux wiki, but instead there is still extlinux.conf.

The symptoms, in one computer I got the syslinux line printed on the screen and then it would hang. On the laptop it got farther but could not find lupu_525.sfs even though it was there. If I booted with the CD, it worked, even though it used lupu_525.sfs from the flash drive.

I should have tried renaming extlinux.conf to syslinux.conf, to see if that could fix it, but I didn't think of that before I had restored my 511 backup, sorry.

When I ran the Universal Installer, I told it to leave the MBR on the flash drive alone. I don't know if that was a good call - not sure how it figures out to run syslinux or ldlinux or extlinux...

How am I running 525? Booting from CD with pupsave on the flash drive (there is no hard drive), or booting from the flash drive (which was broken).
Computer specs? Sony Vaio C140-G, and Intel D510MO with 2GB ram.
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 16:29    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Next problem, I tried upgrading my USB flash drive (which was at 511) and it broke it - good thing I backed up first!

How did you upgrade?
Be specific what you did.
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gcmartin

Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 4356
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 17:04    Post_subject: Live Bootable LiveCD/LiveDVD media no longer boots if saved  

Several members have already tried to duplicate this on their system. I have this phenomenon on 3 different systems, Here's some more information for this community to look at as we try to ID this problem>
gcmartin wrote:

Restating the Live media booting problem:
  • Booted 01Micko's LiveCD SPUP099 on laptop.
  • Remove SPUP LiveCD from drive and replace with a new CDRW
  • Downloaded, checksum, and Pburn Puppy5.25 ISO to CDRW on a laptop with DVD-RW burner.
  • Also,LiveCD will boot on all machines before save to CD on reboot occurs from any one of these PC/laptop which can write CDs.
  • Laptop booted after ISO burned to multi-session CD/DVD.
  • But, after session is saved to CD/DVD when rebooting,
  • PC does NOT recognize the media in the reader as bootable.
    PC pauses, makes a brief attempt, then goes to next bootable device in the POST list.
Here's what the SPUP reports on LiveCD files copied from ISO
Code:

# ls -l /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso
total 130414
-r--r--r-- 1 root root      2048 2011-04-01 21:18 boot.cat
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root       126 2011-04-01 21:18 boot.msg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root      1200 2011-04-01 21:18 help2.msg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root      1235 2011-04-01 21:18 help.msg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   1902978 2011-04-01 21:11 initrd.gz
-rw-rw-r-- 1 1026 1026     24576 2010-10-22 16:07 isolinux.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root       151 2011-04-01 21:18 isolinux.cfg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     19804 2011-04-01 21:18 logo.16
-rwx------ 1 root root 129359888 2011-04-01 21:18 lupu_525.sfs
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   2228816 2011-04-01 21:11 vmlinuz

# du -c /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/*
2   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/boot.cat
1   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/boot.msg
2   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/help2.msg
2   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/help.msg
1859   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/initrd.gz
24   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/isolinux.bin
1   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/isolinux.cfg
20   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/logo.16
126329   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/lupu_525.sfs
2177   /mnt/+mnt+Downloads+Puppy+lupu-525.iso/vmlinuz
130414   total
After PUP5.25 LiveCD is booted, tailored, and "Saved to CD" on rebooting, LiveCD with SAVED session no longer boots on this/any 32bit Intel/AMD PC.

Rebooting 01Micko's LiveCD SPUP, this is what I see when i use this to look at the LIveCD with the problem>
Code:

# ls -l /mnt/sr0
total 130416
drwxrwxrwt 10 root root      2048 2011-04-12 13:46 2011-04-12-14-47
-r--r--r--  1 root root      2048 2011-04-01 21:18 boot.cat
-rw-r--r--  1 root root       126 2011-04-01 21:18 boot.msg
-rw-r--r--  1 root root      1200 2011-04-01 21:18 help2.msg
-rw-r--r--  1 root root      1235 2011-04-01 21:18 help.msg
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   1902978 2011-04-01 21:11 initrd.gz
-rw-rw-r--  1 1026 1026     24576 2010-10-22 16:07 isolinux.bin
-rw-r--r--  1 root root       151 2011-04-01 21:18 isolinux.cfg
-rw-r--r--  1 root root     19804 2011-04-01 21:18 logo.16
-rwx------  1 root root 129359888 2011-04-01 21:18 lupu_525.sfs
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   2228816 2011-04-01 21:11 vmlinuz

# du -c  /mnt/sr0/*
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/db
16   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/failed
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/agpgart
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/card0
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/controlD64
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event0
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event1
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event2
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event3
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event4
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event5
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event6
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event7
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/event8
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/fb0
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/timer
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/vcs2
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/vcs3
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/vcs4
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/vcsa2
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/vcsa3
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names/vcsa4
44   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/names
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev/rules.d
71   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev/.udev
81   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/dev
19   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/conky
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/cups/ppd
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/cups/ssl
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/cups
11   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/init.d
4   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/modprobe.d
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/modules
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/network-wizard/network/interfaces
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/network-wizard/network
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/network-wizard
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/opt/samba
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/opt
4   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/rc.d
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/samba
11   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc/X11
111   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/etc
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/consolefonts
49   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/keymaps
41   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/crypto
76   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/block
38   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/hid/usbhid
135   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/hid
10   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/leds
24   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/misc
18   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/mmc/card
65   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/mmc/core
49   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/mmc/host
133   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/mmc
42   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/parport
49   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/pcmcia
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/scsi
53   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/ssb
161   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/usb/core
99   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/usb/host
82   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/usb/storage
343   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers/usb
870   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/drivers
163   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/fs/aufs
465   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/fs/btrfs
76   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/fs/fuse
37   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/fs/nls
30   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/fs/squashfs
772   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/fs
19   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/lib/zlib_deflate
25   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel/lib
1709   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd/kernel
1711   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2/initrd
4377   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules/2.6.33.2
4379   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib/modules
4436   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/lib
85276   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/bin
247   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/include
14   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/auth
16   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/charset
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/gpext
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/idmap
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/nss_info
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/pdb
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/perfcount
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/rpc
510   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib/vfs
14296   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/lib
82   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/private
27309   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/sbin
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/ar/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/ar
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/cs/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/cs
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/da/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/da
21   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES
23   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/de
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/es
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/fi
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/fr
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/hu
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/it
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/ja
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/ko/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/ko
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/nb
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/nl
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/pl
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/pt_BR
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/ru
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/sv/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/sv
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/zh_CN
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale/zh_TW
176   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/locale
258   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/man/man1
396   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/man/man5
27   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/man/man7
461   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/man/man8
1143   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share/man
1320   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba/share
128532   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt/samba
128534   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/opt
4   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/Choices/ROX-Filer
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/Choices
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/Downloads
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/my-applications/bin
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/my-applications
4   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/Startup
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config/compiz/compizconfig
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config/compiz
43   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config/fbpanel
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config/geany
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config/gtk-2.0
42   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config/openbox
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net
113   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.config
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.dillo
25   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.icewm
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.icons
69   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.packages
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.pfilesearch/tmp
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.pfilesearch
4   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.pfind
17   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.pup_event/drive_sda1
17   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.pup_event/drive_sda2
17   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.pup_event/drive_sda
17   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.pup_event/drive_sr0
70   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.pup_event
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.quickpet/Downloads
4   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.quickpet
186   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.var_saved/local/icons
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.var_saved/local/petget
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.var_saved/local/pupdial/isp1
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.var_saved/local/pupdial/isp2
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.var_saved/local/pupdial
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.var_saved/local/sns
203   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.var_saved/local
205   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root/.var_saved
571   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/root
876   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/bin
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/etc/compizconfig
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/etc
2844   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/compiz
14   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/compizconfig/backends
16   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/compizconfig
308   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/conky
168   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/emerald/engines
170   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/emerald
31   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/imlib2/filters
130   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders
162   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/imlib2
11846   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
11848   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/mozilla
396   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/python2.6/ccm
654   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/python2.6
20   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers
22   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/xorg/modules
24   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib/xorg
16877   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/lib
12   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/local/lib/X11/mini-icons
234   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps
248   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/local/lib/X11
250   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/local/lib
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/local/psync
255   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/local
1378   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/sbin
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/applications
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/apport/package-hooks
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/apport
168   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/backgrounds_original
163   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/backgrounds
59   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/bcop
20   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons/hicolor/22x22/categories
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons/hicolor/22x22/devices
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons/hicolor/22x22/mimetypes
30   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons/hicolor/22x22
2161   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps
401   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories
2564   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons/hicolor/scalable
2625   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons/hicolor
2627   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/icons
17   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm/images
2646   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/ccsm
10   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/compiz/filters
50   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/compiz/Gnome
95   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/compiz/Oxygen
8104   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/compiz
379   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/doc/conky-all
27   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/doc/libimlib2
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/doc/liblua5.1-0
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/doc/simple-ccsm
612   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/doc
65   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/emerald/theme
68   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/emerald
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16
22   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps
24   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22
4   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24
25   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps
27   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32
152   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons/hicolor
172   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/icons
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/ca
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/de
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/el/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/el
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/es
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/eu/LC_MESSAGES
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/eu
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/fi/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/fi
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/fr
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/gl/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/gl
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/hu/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/hu
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/it
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/ja/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/ja
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/nb/LC_MESSAGES
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/nb
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/pl
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES
9   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/pt
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES
10   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/ru
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/sk/LC_MESSAGES
7   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/sk
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/tr
6   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/zh_CN/LC_MESSAGES
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale/zh_CN
142   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/locale
27   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/man/man1
29   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/man
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/menu
8   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/pixmaps
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/pyshared
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/pyshared-data
28   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/simple-ccsm/images
5   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/simple-ccsm/profiles
112   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share/simple-ccsm
12306   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/share
10   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/X11R7/lib
12   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr/X11R7
31709   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/usr
2   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/.wh..wh.orph
3   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47/.wh..wh.plnk
165447   /mnt/sr0/2011-04-12-14-47
2   /mnt/sr0/boot.cat
1   /mnt/sr0/boot.msg
2   /mnt/sr0/help2.msg
2   /mnt/sr0/help.msg
1859   /mnt/sr0/initrd.gz
24   /mnt/sr0/isolinux.bin
1   /mnt/sr0/isolinux.cfg
20   /mnt/sr0/logo.16
126329   /mnt/sr0/lupu_525.sfs
2177   /mnt/sr0/vmlinuz
295861   total
Is this additional information helpful for diagnosing why the system is having problems with burning.

Any helpful ideas for additional problem information capture, or for resolution, would be appreciated.

Is there somewhere I can create/send this "Live" for analysis in the PUP community. Additional eyes could be helpful.
Also posted this problem last here and first here on this problem. Is this enough information to get to the bottom of this problem?
Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 17:37    Post_subject:  

gcmartin wrote:
After PUP5.25 LiveCD is booted, tailored, and "Saved to CD" on rebooting, LiveCD with SAVED session no longer boots on this/any 32bit Intel/AMD PC.

I just did a fresh Live CD of Lucid Puppy 5.25 to a multi-session CD. Added some programs and saved to the CD.
Rebooted the CD and all works for me.
I am using it to write this.

Things that could be your problem.
Not enough memory to handle added data before saving.
Something wrong with burner drive you are using.
Bad copy of Pburn. Not making multi-session CD/DVD that works proper.
I used Pburn that comes with Lucid 5.25. Pburn V3.3.4
Burner drive does not work well with the type of CD/DVD's you are using.
+R or -R or +RW or -RW type thing.
Speed you burned the CD/DVD too fast.

Your multi-session Live cd should have these files and directory after you do the first save to it.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 18:26    Post_subject: SAMBA installation on PUP525  

On SAMBA installation I find it working properly in operation. I am knowledgeable enough with lots of past experiences to navigate my system so that I can test and deploy its services.

When it installs, it mentions that it has updated the Menu.
BUT, when I look in Menu > Network, where its entry is suppose to be, its not there.

Is the PPM Installer defeating this?

Its suppose to allow the start/stop/restart of the SAMBA service.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 18:47    Post_subject: Live Bootable LiveCD/LiveDVD media no longer boots if saved2  

Thanks BigPUP.
bigpup wrote:
... Your multi-session Live cd should have these files and directory after you do the first save to it.
Thanks for sharing your test with me. Below is MY CD. its the same as I had posted earlier via the "du" terminal command.. Also, it matches the contents of your CD. Further, ALL 32bit systems that this occurs on, have over 1GB of RAM.

The Live media boots and runs no matter which pfix= parm I use to run from RAM or run from CD. The problem does NOT appear to be a problem with the system writing the contents of the save-session because I can see the save session, here, and in the earlier "du", reported.

It appears that somehow "Save to CD" is destroying the ability to boot again. 2 obvious questions that I'm sure everyone is asking is>
  1. What in PUP525 could be doing that?
  2. Is there a boot record that PUP is inadvertently destroying?
Remember that this boots over and over until a session save to CD is performed.

Any other eyes or ideas.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 18:58    Post_subject:  

Tried to make multisession cd using "burn iso to cd" on cd-rw.
On 2nd reboot after saving files, pets, I get "No bootable media
found".
Sro shows the correct files folders etc.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 20:08    Post_subject:  

Quote:
How did you upgrade?


My problem was not with the live CD like above, but with a flash drive.

I started with a flash drive I had been booting (to 511) from for a long time; I then booted the 525 liveCD and saved a pupsave on that same flash drive. I did not use a 511 pupsave and upgrade; I made a fresh pupsave. There were of course 511 pupsaves still on it. I then decided to make it 525-bootable.

First I booted 525 using the liveCD and the 525 pupsave, and went to do a Universal Installer with that, to replace my 511 on the flash drive with 525. However before it got far into the process I got to a (fairly incomprehensible) message saying the (525) pupsave was mounted. It did not seem to like that so I just rebooted the 525 live CD "pfix=ram", and ran the Universal installer again. I went through and used what one would consider all the normal defaults and it completed OK (cleaned out the old 511 sfs file and replaced it with the 525 one, etc.).

I then opened the CD drawer and rebooted the flash drive expecting 525 to come up but got the symptoms reported above. My guess is the cleanup process is defective. There is ldlinux.sys but no syslinix.cfg. Instead there is still a extlinux.cfg. The syslinux wiki says:
Quote:
Installing SYSLINUX will alter the boot sector on the disk, and copy a file named LDLINUX.SYS into the root directory.... All the configurable defaults in SYSLINUX can be changed by creating a file called syslinux.cfg.

http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX

Possibly, I should have let the Universal Installer change my MBR, I don't know. This seems a very bug-prone or confusion-prone process.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 21:15    Post_subject:  

PaulBx1 wrote:
My problem was not with the live CD like above, but with a flash drive.

I started with a flash drive I had been booting (to 511) from for a long time; I then booted the 525 liveCD and saved a pupsave on that same flash drive. I did not use a 511 pupsave and upgrade; I made a fresh pupsave. There were of course 511 pupsaves still on it. I then decided to make it 525-bootable.

First I booted 525 using the liveCD and the 525 pupsave, and went to do a Universal Installer with that, to replace my 511 on the flash drive with 525. However before it got far into the process I got to a (fairly incomprehensible) message saying the (525) pupsave was mounted. It did not seem to like that so I just rebooted the 525 live CD "pfix=ram", and ran the Universal installer again. I went through and used what one would consider all the normal defaults and it completed OK (cleaned out the old 511 sfs file and replaced it with the 525 one, etc.).

I think having the old 511 files on the flash drive and using the universal installer to install 525 made the old files corrupt the new 525 files.
The universal installer is designed to install to a clean location that is empty of any files.
The upgrade option in the universal installer is for full installs and nothing else.
It will upgrade a full install with a newer full install.

The way to upgrade a frugal install or install that uses a pupsave:
Manually replace all the files except the old save file.
(Delete the old files before installing the new ones)
Reboot with the new files and when the old save file is found it will be updated. (Maybe)
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 21:41    Post_subject:  

Quote:
Remember that this boots over and over until a session save to CD is performed.

Quote:
On 2nd reboot after saving files, pets, I get "No bootable media
found".

I can not get this problem to happen for me.
I am writing this from a multi-session CD that I have rebooted and saved too multiple times.
The only thing that comes to mind is, did you start with a completely clean CD?DVD?

gcmartin,
Wonder why your Lupu_525.sfs file icon is different from mine?

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 23:11    Post_subject:  

Quote:
The universal installer is designed to install to a clean location that is empty of any files.


I wonder then why it asks you if you want to delete any old files. And I sure don't see how old files can corrupt new ones.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 23:42    Post_subject:  

bigpup wrote:

The only thing that comes to mind is, did you start will a completely clean CD


In my case; a new unused cd-rw.
Tried it with Wary and have the same problem.

Will try the pc instead of lappy: see if it makes a difference.

Ouch!

On the pc I get "invalid or corrupt kernel image" on first reboot.
Tried both Pburn and Burn iso to cd.

Edit:

Not working on any version; probably the cd-rw media.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Apr 2011, 05:05    Post_subject:  

Hi,

on my thinkpad t42 had the same problem but transferred to usb stick and booted with grub. now OK.

But after installing W-bar and new wallpaper, bottom right hand digital clock has disappeared.

Typing fixmenus in monitor produces an endless loop of :-

(fbpanel:22512):: Gtk-Warning**: Failed to set text from markup due to error parsing markup:: Value of 'size' attribute on (span) tag on line 1 could not be parsed: Should be an integer or a string.

Apart from that all works well. Altough I do have a slow boot up which may be down to 16Gb Transcend usb stick.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Apr 2011, 06:24    Post_subject:  

PaulBx1 wrote:
Quote:
The universal installer is designed to install to a clean location that is empty of any files.


And I sure don't see how old files can corrupt new ones.

Anything can happen with computers!
This is one possible way.
If the old file has the exact same name as the new file, the program could think it is already installed.
It could see the name already in the file allocation table and not change the location info for the file.
Again, a full install is the only one the Universal Installer is designed to upgrade.

Quote:
I wonder then why it asks you if you want to delete any old files.

What type install asks this? Are you talking about the wipe option when doing a full install?
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