xenialpup64 doesn't like my monitor(Solved)

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number77 · #1 Post by **number77** » Sun 10 Jun 2018, 18:18

Hello
xenialpup64-7.5-uefi live cd gives me error on the monitor: out of range. Is there any way I can go back to the basic install where I need to type puppy pfix=ram and also nox.
This does the same on different pcs and I cant try a different monitor at the moment. It is an old monitor but tahr605 has no problems with live cd.
Thanks
number77

bigpup · #2 Post by **bigpup** » Sun 10 Jun 2018, 19:01

Are you seeing a boot menu with optional boot choices?
If yes.
One of those is to boot using nox, so you can run Xorgwizard to manually select graphics settings.

What resolution is the monitor capable of using??
What is the graphics hardware??

number77 · #3 Post by **number77** » Sun 10 Jun 2018, 20:36

None of the options works, all give out of range.
Tahr 605 works and gives a resolution of 1280x1024 at 75hz, it also works on 72hz.
I will check on the video hardware but probably tomorrow now.
Is there an image that loads in the old fashioned way.

bigpup · #4 Post by **bigpup** » Sun 10 Jun 2018, 21:54

Using nox to boot to a prompt and not start x server should work.
Run Xorgwizard and manually get the Vesa driver selected.
That may be limited to only 1024X768 as high as it will do.

Graphics hardware not supported in Xenialpup could be the problem. Too old.
Xenialpup is more for support of the newest stuff.

Tahr 605 works and gives a resolution of 1280x1024 at 75hz, it also works on 72hz

What graphics driver is it using?
Pup-Sysinfo>Devices>Display>Video Info can tell you.

There are other option based on the specific hardware.

I have used older monitors that have to be setup in there setup to accept specific resolutions.
Have had to go into setup on the monitor and activate a specific resolution, so it can be used.
Not all possible resolutions were active.

number77 · #5 Post by **number77** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 15:25

On tahr605 sysinfo...videoinfo hangs the computer.
I dont think the computer is very old, its a hp m2n-68-la. It uses an integrated graphics controller: nvidia geforce 6150se.
Booting xenialpup did give me the choice to use nox but that was out of range too

rcrsn51 · #6 Post by **rcrsn51** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 15:56

If you are getting "out of range" messages, press the monitor's "auto-adjust" button.

number77 · #7 Post by **number77** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 17:06

rcrsn51 wrote:If you are getting "out of range" messages, press the monitor's "auto-adjust" button.

I still get the out of range message. Pressing auto-adjust does nothing, not even the message auto adjust, yes or no only out of range.

number77 · #8 Post by **number77** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 17:30

Another strange thing. If I boot xenialpup but with another monitor it boots perfectly into 1280x1024 24 bit. If I then change to the specvision monitor it displays exactly the same.
But won't boot into it.

bigpup · #9 Post by **bigpup** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 23:23

What is the specific make and model of the monitor?

Xenialpup will normally get information from the monitor about what it is and what resolution is the native resolution.
Set the driver to provide that resolution.

See if the monitor has any internal setting to turn off/on or auto/manual Source Detection.
Anything that may deal with providing monitor info to an operating system.

If it is Nvidia hardware.
The Nouveau driver is being used.
Could try using the boot option

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nouveau.modeset=0

number77 · #10 Post by **number77** » Tue 12 Jun 2018, 08:03

bigpup wrote:What is the specific make and model of the monitor?

Xenialpup will normally get information from the monitor about what it is and what resolution is the native resolution.
Set the driver to provide that resolution.

See if the monitor has any internal setting to turn off/on or auto/manual Source Detection.
Anything that may deal with providing monitor info to an operating system.

If it is Nvidia hardware.
The Nouveau driver is being used.
Could try using the boot option
Code: Select all
nouveau.modeset=0

Xenialpup seems to be getting the wrong information about the monitor as Tahr605 sets the resolution to 1280x960 and I have to reset it to 1280x1024.
There is no way to turn on/off source detection.
There is a pin on the vga cable that gives this information, may try disconnecting that.
The pc has a digital output and the monitor is vga

bigpup · #11 Post by **bigpup** » Tue 12 Jun 2018, 17:19

Sorry!
If you can not answer all my questions I can not try to guess at what is going on

number77 · #12 Post by **number77** » Tue 12 Jun 2018, 20:33

bigpup wrote:Sorry!
If you can not answer all my questions I can not try to guess at what is going on

Missed that one.
Specvision sun17sg

number77 · #13 Post by **number77** » Wed 13 Jun 2018, 15:20

I have a cure for the problem. I have swapped the monitor for another monitor on a pc running xp which has no problem with it.
I think it is time to give up now.
I would much prefer that xenialpup had the normal start up screen but that is a small niggle and for me it is a brilliant o.s.
Thanks for all the help.
All the best.
number77

bigpup · #14 Post by **bigpup** » Wed 13 Jun 2018, 17:07

I tried to do a Google search for the monitor to get some specs and maybe a manual to look in.
Google had trouble finding anything about this monitor

WHAT!
Google is suppose to know everything about everything!

Well, Xenialpup is developed to give Puppy support for the newest hardware and what the Latest Linux kernels still support.

Burn_IT · #15 Post by **Burn_IT** » Wed 13 Jun 2018, 20:15

sun17sg is a Sun microsystems TV.

number77 · #16 Post by **number77** » Thu 14 Jun 2018, 17:20

Burn_IT wrote:sun17sg is a Sun microsystems TV.

Its a Sun-17sg, 17" TFT LCD monitor.
The label is almost destroyed but thats what remains. All under the Specvision label on the Monitor.

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