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[BarryK]

Wary 5.1.1.53 is the first beta for the upcoming 5.1.2.
See my blog announcement and brief release notes:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02263

There are some interesting features in this release. Bug reports and general feedback welcome. Anyone who feels inspired to work on 'fido' or 'spot', you are most welcome!

Note, I got fido basically going, but want to move onto other things. So, anyone who likes the idea of fido and knows something about running Unix/Linux non-root, you are invited to hack on fido. See my blog for posts about the implementation of fido.

UPDATE: Wary 5.1.1.56, May 13, 2011

See blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02285

Discussion of 5.1.1.56 starts on page 3.

UPDATE: Wary 5.1.1.57, May 19, 2011

See blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02299

Discussion of 5.1.1.57 begins on page 6 of this thread.

UPDATE: Wary 5.1.2 final released, May 25, 2011

See blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02304

Discussion of 5.1.2 begins on page 7 of this thread.

UPDATE: Wary 5.1.2.7 (5.1.3 beta), August 9, 2011

See blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02390

Discussion starts on page 13 of this thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=551480#551480

UPDATE: Wary 5.1.3, August 13, 2011

See blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02399

Discussion starts on page 15 of this forum thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=552712#552712

UPDATE: Wary 5.1.4 released, August 29, 2011

See blog announcement:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02449

Discussion starts on page 22 of this forum thread:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67572&start=315

[L18L]

[Billtoo]

I did a frugal install.
It wouldn't boot to the desktop,ran xorgwizard and probe but that
wouldn't go to the desktop either.I tried vesa and 1024x768 16 worked.
Fri 6 May 2011 Operating System: Wary Puppy-5.1.1.53 Linux 2.6.32.38
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8200 (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: MCP77 Board - mcp78pvo Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.3.0
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (347x260 millimeters)
depth of root window: 16 planes

direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.4 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.2)

Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e
Core 0: 2499 1: 2499 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
2991 frames in 5.0 seconds = 595.159 FPS
3320 frames in 5.0 seconds = 661.273 FPS
3320 frames in 5.0 seconds = 660.130 FPS

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

After installing the devx and kernel source I exited to the prompt and
installed the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run prorietary driver.

Fri 6 May 2011 Operating System: Wary Puppy-5.1.1.53 Linux 2.6.32.38
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8200 (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA product: MCP77 Board - mcp78pvo Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.3.0
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (524x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 9200/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
OpenGL version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 270.41.06

Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor 4850e
Core 0: 2499 1: 2499 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
5395 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1078.843 FPS
6560 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1311.929 FPS

I haven't tried out much else yet.

[nooby]

I am in wary 511 fido now. I did whoami in terminal and it answer that I am fido but it does show the # sign instead of the USDollar sign $

Is that something that should be changed maybe? I know too little.

I will test to save things and see what happens and load the menu.lst and save it and see if that works.


Not sure if it is by design or a bug but I installed SFS-Exec and that worked well but it failed to allow me to uninstall a sfs. When I go

Menu > Filesustem > SFS-Exec-unloader then nothing happens.

So would be cool to know how to make that work.

I used urxvt and wanted to check if my Iptables was set up. It told me that I had to be root. So I gave it the su root and then the password and it allowed me to do it.

But terminal does not show what most linux users expect.

fido@xxxx
and then after change
root@xxxx something

apart from this I don't know much is different.

[L18L]

Having saved and rebooted I am fido now and am browsing as fido..
# whoami
fido
# ps | grep seamonkey
32088 fido 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.18/run-mozilla.sh /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.18/seamonkey-bin
32093 fido 0:04 /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.18/seamonkey-bin
32633 fido 0:00 grep seamonkey
#
switching to root is working OK
# su root
Password:
# whoami
root
#

One thing to mention:
At first I was asked for the administrator's password.
I had no problem with it then I noticed that it was the BootManager who asked for it. Don't know what a underprivileged user will do in this situation.???

spot has a home in /home/spot and has entries in /root/spot too.
fido's home could not yet be found, should be /home/fido ?

nooby's question about $ and # is very good.
$ for non-root can be done, $ symbolized: pay (a password)
I think this can be set in ~.bashrc but I won't try it now and hope someone who knows it exactly will post the solution here.

Edited:
PPM, pmount and connect are asking for the password, very good !
And now I know what the undeprivileged user must do: klick 3 times and the askpass box will disappear! Maybe I will try to buildin the name of the application.

[nooby]

What could be the solution then to the SFS-Exec not starting up the unloader Does one have to set permissions to launch it? Why would root fail to launch it. Maybe I don't know how one do that though. One would have to call it up using Terminal maybe.

[gcentauri]

Hi Puppy!

Just booted Wary 5.1.1.53 and got some kind of error (sorry i did not not get any log file or a readout of the error) but the system had some kind of kernel panic(?) after trying to load my Lucent Technologies Orinoco WiFi card. I took it out, and puppy booted fine, but when I inserted it into the PCMIA slot once everything was loaded, the system froze and I had to reboot again.

I can try to get more info if needed. I do have a pupsave .3fs file from Wary 5.0 that is getting loaded, I don't know if that would have anything to do with it or not...

Let me know if any more info is needed.

-grant

[BarryK]

Oh, I should add, please don't post any bug reports on fido. I know it is partly broken. The purpose of fido in this release is for anyone who want to fix it.

If you are not in that "I can fix it" category, you can still try fido if you wish, but don't expect everything to work, and don't post here about what does and does not work. Thanks.

[01micko]

Updated pupradio to work with "fido"

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=371420#371420

It would also now work with any multiuser system but the $HOME/.pupradio dir would need to be copied to the USER'S $HOME and ownership changed.


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@nooby

If you want a fancy terminal with all that stuff telling you who and where you are, in case you forget you can do as that dude on distrowatch did and put this in /root/.bashrc

[James C]

Manual frugal install on my old P3 test box. Not using "fido" because I'm happy running as root.

Sound and display (1024x768) working on initial boot. Internet was not working but SNS made quick work of that and connection is persistent.
Installed Mesa, Firefox 4.01 and Opera 11.10...... all working well.


VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 5.1.1.53

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 GMCH [Graphics Memory Controller Hub]
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 16 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 254MB (127MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu 05 May 2011 11:24:40 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI i810E 20050821 x86/MMX/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 254344 248904 5440 0 15644
Swap: 1020088 540 1019548
Total: 1274432 249444 1024988
#

[gcentauri]

latest Wary boots fine on MacBook Pro, but...

- the trackpad does not work (synaptics issue? i tried changing xorg.conf briefly to no avail) USB mouse works fine.

- no WiFi. it has a Broadcom 4322 card, seems the b43 drivers do not work for that one. don't know the details with trying to install the wl.ko stuff. I'm having the same issues with a debian live-build i've been trying to make.

- no sound. tried running alsaconfig and changing alsamixer settings but nothing seemed to work.

didn't spend too much more time with it, but thats what I can report. my roommate who I was attempting to help out (OSX seems to be dying after 6 months of use) seemed excited about the possibility of getting a Puppy though! i know Apple machines are low priority, and perhaps Wary is not the Puppy to deal with them, but i thought i'd report at least.

-grant

[nooby]

Barry, I will do my best to live up to not post bug reports here unless I can also fix them.

But Micko and others that can help you fix things maybe have help from us telling what did not work on our gear and then them too get curious on how that works on their gear and then they see how it all works and can suggest ways that solve it.

I bow out now only wanted to share how it appeared on my Acer D250 using N270 Atom.

I sure am looking forward that we have a Fido that works on all gear.

Thanks to Micko for suggestion to get $ sign and # sign to change for whoami answers in Terminal. No hurry. I have to wait until most bugs are solved. Looks promising indeed. Thanks to all involved.

[666philb]

Attym is crashing a lot for me, nothing to do with clicking on links, it's crashing when i move the window, it even crashed when i moved a window not related to it.


Here's my attempt at the NVIDIA-x86-260.19.44 driver for wary. It uses the pinstall scripts from the lucid nvidia driver, so thanks again to whoever created those, and i hope you don't mind.
It seems to be working ok for me, HD1920x1080,glxgears & googleearth all working fine.

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
12531 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2506.159 FPS
13577 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2715.376 FPS
13540 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2707.994 FPS
13639 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2727.701 FPS
13567 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2713.294 FPS

If you try it, could you please say if it's working for you,or not.

You can download it here....
http://www.mediafire.com/file/sml6fi0wc6inpwl/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.44-2.6.32.38-wary511.pet
MD5: 0673631f93767404dc695f9ea60c75b7

666philb

[Lobster]

Running Wary from DVD on Athlon(tm) Dual Core Processor

auto ethernet worked (and was persistent)
Sound worked but was not persistent (after reboot)
so will run the audio wizard . . .

Liked the video upgrade wizard - which correctly ID'ed my radeon ATI but no compiled driver yet available.
Installed the ATI driver in PPM but this slowed the system and turned my cursor into a long thin line. So uninstalled it.

Good to see transmission there and the version
is a good one - though apparently big.

Was on Puppy IRC channel and someone using ayttm in Wary was being disconnected continuously.

Will try precord later

Many thanks

[666philb]