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PostPosted: Tue 09 Aug 2011, 09:24    Post subject: Re: Internationalization  

L18L wrote:
My regards
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Thanks very much for the links, I have a better idea of what is going on with all the internationalization and localization of scripts.

I want the most important scripts and programs to be available in English, French Spanish and German, as I said. This means all programs and GUIs needed for system settings and installation must be available in the above languages.

This includes firstrun, PPM, startups, toggle-rox-desktop, desksetup, connectwizard, xorgwizard, etc..

I would also like to include Russian as much as possible, but cannot do much with it. I do have a decent enough understanding of slavic/slavonic languages to use/check Google translations are not total bull****, but the Cyrillic alphabet is really slowing me down and making it impossible at times..

If you've NOT heard of the 'Slovio' constructed language, have a look, I wish I could include that!

I do not want to waste a lot of time.
I do not want to create translations that are already available.

So I kindly request the following .mo files, if they exist:

- advert-blocker: I can't find the updated script or the translations
- pupsaveconfig 1.9.9: fr, es
- connectwizard: ru
- connectwizard_2nd: ru
- frugalinstaller 1.4: es, ru,
- grub4dosconfig-1.6.3: es, de, ru
- xorgwizard: es,
- jwm: es, fr

(Please note, I have already searched the forums as much as possible, and looked at Wary511q..
I don't think LupQ would have any extra translations...)

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PostPosted: Tue 09 Aug 2011, 12:51    Post subject:  

This is from lupu-525, I think with language pack from shinobar.

HTH
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Edit: Just tested with pfix=ram: lupu-525 comes by default with localized Grub4Dos.
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Aug 2011, 15:17    Post subject: Re: Internationalization  

sc0ttman,

sorry, I do not have anything but from shinobar's langpack

sc0ttman wrote:

If you've NOT heard of the 'Slovio' constructed language, have a look, I wish I could include that!


Where should I look Question
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Aug 2011, 15:28    Post subject: I can help with Russian.  

I can help with Russian. I also have some i18n gettexted scripts, but I am trying to keep them updated with latest woof for localization of resent Wary, Drake and Spup. Here's list of i18n scripts that I use in my packages. But I have made only Russian .mo-files for them. And I want to make it more compatable with sinobar's langpacks.
Also it's not always one .mo-file for one script. One .mo-file can be made for several scripts. So there is no special .mo-file for pup_advert_blocker. usr_sbin.mo used fo localizing it.
You want Spanish, German and Franch. Maybe shinobar's langpacks for wary-511q can help. I am going to look at them myself.
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PostPosted: Wed 10 Aug 2011, 17:08    Post subject: Re: Internationalization  

L18L wrote:
sc0ttman,

sorry, I do not have anything but from shinobar's langpack

Thats OK, I've taken really important ones from the lang packs, such as frugalinstaller.mo, jwm.mo, grub4dosconfig.mo, etc

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sc0ttman wrote:

If you've NOT heard of the 'Slovio' constructed language, have a look, I wish I could include that!

Where should I look Question

http://www.slovio.com/

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Aug 2011, 17:18    Post subject: Re: I can help with Russian.  

rodin.s wrote:
I can help with Russian.

Thanks very much. I think I will need some corrections in what I have done ... I used Google to create some Russian translations for my custom scripts.

When I upload and share the new alpha ISO, I hope to have some translation feedback and improvements.
(in fr, de, es, ru)

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I also have some i18n gettexted scripts, but I am trying to keep them updated with latest woof for localization of resent Wary, Drake and Spup. ...One .mo-file can be made for several scripts. So there is no special .mo-file for pup_advert_blocker. usr_sbin.mo used fo localizing it.

Thanks very much for those.. I will try and make them work, I also stole some of those i18n scripts from waryq as well already... I think the usr_sbin file may not work for me (but I will happily test), because many scripts included in that file are different version in wary and my puplet. I have noticed it is often easier for me without gettext, as I can then easily edit the wary and lupu .mo files when they don't work 100% correctly.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Aug 2011, 10:03    Post subject: akita linux alpha 1
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OK, I have an Akita Linux Alpha 1 ISO ..

NOTE: sfs3!! k2.6.25.16... Do NOT use with a Wary/Lupu SFS or save file!!

download here: http://www.multiupload.com/9FUAVYF5CS (lots of mirrors)
Size is 86mb, md5 is 40ae8d16cbed43c387c409b439e579df

EDIT: NLS update attached here

- more translations in .desktops files
- browser-installer i18n'd
- pup-advert-blocker i18n'd

Problems: Many I guess..

EDIT 2: /usr/sbin/startups is broken.. Fixed version attached here (remove extension and put in /usr/sbin)

Note, I already fixed quite a few things listed below...

- MAJOR problem: click on a .pet - it will ALWAYS install, even when you click 'ABORT'
- Xvesa doesnt work
- still need to add MUs fix for multiple screens
- bootmanager translation errors (fixed.. but translations still mostly crap)
- xorgwizard does not autostart Xvesa (fixed)
- translations are like to be incomplete and laughable in places, if not all over
- sns, net-setup, frisbee not localised
- /usr/sbin/ipinfo is missing
- lost settings of network/audio/graphics at reboot?
- bad opera fonts now fixed??
- way too many apps in the main JWM menu (I think so anyway)
- very few translations in the /usr/share/applications/*.desktop files
- 'Exit to prompt' simply restarts X (wmexit needs looking at!)
- desksetup will force ROX desktop icons back to English (cant seem to fix it.. nearly there)
- termit feels slow (it is the default terminal in geany, ROX 'terminal' icon and JWM Apps menu)
- possible conflicts between network managers frisbee mostly ..


Changes since last ISO: (a summary):

x added libyahoo2-1.0.1, hunspell-1.2.12-w5
x added gtrayicon-1.1, network_tray-2.4.3, powerapplet_tray-2.3
x updated to retrovol-0.10-puppy4
x updated menumaker to 1.1.15

x updated pmfree and pmnet - moved them to ~/Startup,
x updated jwm-tray and its template to support new locations of pmnet and pmfree
x disabled all tray icons by default, as they can now be enabled easily at 1st boot
x updated desksetup 'func' file, - better support for 'play' icon, when vlc(nogui) is defaultmediaplayer (default run action)
x added pman (hacked to use elinks as first choice)
x removed all browser folders in /usr/lib, which were used only for flash symlinks (fixes ff install from wary5 repo, others?)
x added freeglut-2006-02-08-w5
x fixed /usr/sbin/get-wary-repo
x updated livepackages5.txt (see above), now includes all pet.spec info, and 'on' 'off' values
x added following gparted, mplayer libs.. symlinked all old versions to the new ones:
libcdio-0.82-w5.pet, libdv-1.0.0-w5.pet
libidn-1.15-w5.pet
libltdl-2.2.6a-w5.pet
libxp-1.0.0-w5.pet
libxslt-1.1.26-w5.pet
parted-2.3-w5.pet

x added gparted 0.7, util-linux 2.16.1-1 (libuuid, blkuid, etc)

x updated VLC-GTK to 2.3.2 (thanks to thunor)
- fixed enable/disable of playback buttons
- fixed GUI resize issue, fixed "general settings" and "streams" tabs
- fixed checking of installed gtkdialog verion in vlc-gtk,vlc-gtk-btns
- fixed --play command, if it fails, loads saved settings and return main menu
- updated --dir command, now loads the dir and starts playback immediately
- fixed --dir command, if it fails, loads saved settings and return main menu
- fixed fixed FILE and DIR inputs if file given was empty
- fixed play_dir function, proper dir exist test
- fixed on screen controls, more reliable when playing directories
- added more radio stations
- vlc-gtk-btns does not return to main window, when invoked with --play option
- updated VLC-GTK ROX-App, now forces windowed mode
- minor code cleanups

x updated defaultmediaplayer, now auto plays file, with VLC-GTK on screen controls
- updated defaultmediaplayer to vlc-gtk --window --play --open "$@"
- now possible cos of VLC-GTK updates, above

x better hotplugging of USB devices for "JWM only" desktop
- updated /usr/local/bin/drive-all
- removed the bit that asks to refresh "JWM only" desktop, if new USB drive detected
- updated /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d
- added code to auto update JWM drive icons if needed, for new and removed devices
- added yaf-splash to indicate drive icons are being updated
x updated /etc/eventmanager settings, disabled auto-load default handler
- this stop pmount loading when drive inserted, vlc when dvd inserted, etc

x added libwv-1.2.so.4 - makes abiword from PPM work

x updated ~/Startup/fullstart
- after firstun, now it loads startups, toggle-rox-desktop and optionally desksetup
- added yaf-splash messages .. "Step 1 of 4" .. etc.
x added 23oz GTK and JWM themes

x upgraded wallpaper tools and options
- added simpleWALL by stu90, hacked to support 'toggle-rox-desktop'
- standard ROX wallpaper update if ROX is running
- if no ROX desktop, updates and runs the executable script /usr/sbin/feh_wallpaper
- updated all JWM config files - removed all wallpaper settings (JWM no longer handles the wallpaper at all, feh does, if not ROX)
- added /etc/init.d/rc.feh_wallpaper, which can start/stop /usr/sbin/feh_wallpaper
- updated toggle-rox-desktop, now runs feh_wallpaper for JWM desktop, stops it for ROX desktop
- updated ~/.xinitrc, now runs feh_wallpaper for JWM desktop
- updated /usr/local/bin/fixmenus_on_locale, now supports feh_wallpaper toggle

x updated all JWM to support new virtual desktop features
x updated petget main GUI
x (re)-fixed Opera 11.pet for Flash10, (this is the Opera that is installed by the browser installer)
x added udev rules for i915_modeset

x updated /usr/local/defaulthandler
- includes fix from ozsouth
- added more filetypes
- added defaultdraw to case options

x updated /usr/local/desksetup/desksetup.sh
- does not require X server restart, only ROX restart
- func scripts now uses ash

x updated to access-finder-0.3, pupradio-0.10
x added firewall-genie-1.0

x /usr/local/share/locale now symlink to /usr/share/locale
x renamed DISTRO_NAME to "Akita Linux" in /etc/DISTRO_SPECS

- better localization and NLS stuff (GERMAN,FRENCH,SPANISH,RUSSIAN)
- added puppydesktop_NLS, updated to support localisation of more desktop icons, and akita jwm menu
- updated structure of JWM menus to work with the 'jwmrc*.nls' files
- /usr/share/locale,/usr/share/i18n,/usr/share/fonts,/usr/local/share/locale
- added more languages to ROX-Apps (ROX right clicks - do they work???)

- created/added these translations for german, french, spanish:

boot manager, chooselocale, check_deps, connectwizard, connectwizard_2nd, pkg_chooser, install_preview, toggle-rox-desktop, drive_mounter.sh, startups

- updated .mo files to match new scripts
- updated drive_mounter.sh - now supports localisation
- updated desksetup-0.5 - now uses "Puppydesktop-NLS" system to translate icon labels to current language (not working yet!!!!!)
- added more .mo files to 'de', 'es', 'nl' and 'ru': all found in wary511q, includes pupsavconfig, jwm, puppydesktop, others
- added locales for all of zigberts latest apps

- better utf console support: cyrillic console fonts in /usr/share/kbd, /usr/bin/set_unicode,stop_unicode,dumpkeys,
- added /usr/bin/envsubst, gettext.sh

- updated /usr/lib/X11R7/xwin
- v424 bad hack to fix serial mouse.
- w460 ONLY fix for X restart after exit.
- w479 older Xvesa server may not recognise '-sp' option... k2.6.18.8 need awful hack, Xorg, '-nolisten tcp' causes hang
- 100501 monitor probe returns random 'manufacture' data from one of barrys monitors.
- 110522 rodin.s: i18n (not fully added yet)

- added /usr/bin/wmexit - needed for puppy-desktops 'exit to prompt' JWM menu entry
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 10:47    Post subject:  

I've downloaded the iso. I'll try to translate .mo files. But it's not really mo-files. It's text files like in Zigbert's apps. I got used to gettext and I think it's easier to translate (with poedit). With text files I need to have two files: en.mo and ru.mo.
Pup_advert_blocker doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Aug 2011, 12:22    Post subject:  

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I've downloaded the iso. I'll try to translate .mo files.

Thanks ... It should be easy enough to just open the russian .mo (text) files and correct the grammar mistakes and maybe some mis-translated or untranslated words.

I would really appreciate it... Smile I know enough to find keywords like 'reklama', 'pomoc**', 'posta', 'media', 'this is', 'which is' etc... but I cannot do more than check phrases have some of the right words!

Sorry for not using gettext, I have read a lot of others on shinobars threads saying poedit was a bit too difficult, and I have yet to repackage poedit shinobars to make it work nicely.

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Pup_advert_blocker doesn't work.

Hmmm... working fine for me.. I don't think I have updated it since the ISO was uploaded (maybe I did), same as the version in the update pet (using russian right now, it is bit slower to update the ad-list, but working...)

Maybe you dont have a working internet connection? (maybe likely if its wireless)
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 11:22    Post subject:  

I'm working on mo-files. I'll post them after some testing.
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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 19:30    Post subject:  

Thanks very much rodin.s, it is much appreciated.

Just to note to any testers, since the ISO was uploaded:

- I have also i18n'd desksetup (en, fr, es, de, ru)..
- I have found Xvesa problems in xwin, and fixed them.
- I have added a tiny update to xorgwizard, so Xvesa runs automatically after its chosen.
- I got pmount, xwin, rc.sysinit and others to run using ash, not bash (may revert some)
- I updated PupControl to 1.6.0 and hacked it for better Akita support
- I updated pup-advert-blocker, again .. seems to be much faster now.
- updated ipinfo (+tazocs fix) and sysinfobox to radkys versions
- updated /usr/sbin/pupscan, input-wizard, xserverwizard to newer versions, also now using gtkdialog3
- fixed some errors produced by boot manager translation files
- added ash friendly version of 01mickos code, which randomises hostname if needed, at boot

NOTE: I need to get my hands on a tiny printf binary to complete the ash stuff and I am yet to look into technos work xinit stuff, but I will have a look soon.

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PostPosted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 22:02    Post subject:  

sc0ttman wrote:

NOTE: I need to get my hands on a tiny printf binary to complete the ash stuff and I am yet to look into technos work xinit stuff, but I will have a look soon.
busybox has a printf
let me know if you need some tweaks to "x", it will compile with dietlibc
btw I did try to implement waitfordisplay as a shell script but along the way I learned that the shell gets its environment upon startup or from the parent ... thus $DISPLAY never appears ... thus reverting to C

while I was on a C coding spree I also threw together a small tool similar to xmessage (called xcbmsg)
it doesn't have buttons or return any exit codes, but uses less than half the resources of xmessage.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70772
I am thinking about porting the meh image viewer to xcb next.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 08:12    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
sc0ttman wrote:

NOTE: I need to get my hands on a tiny printf binary to complete the ash stuff and I am yet to look into technos work xinit stuff, but I will have a look soon.
busybox has a printf

Yeah, but not the busybox in initrd.gz, which is where I need it.

Quote:
let me know if you need some tweaks to "x", it will compile with dietlibc
btw I did try to implement waitfordisplay as a shell script but along the way I learned that the shell gets its environment upon startup or from the parent ... thus $DISPLAY never appears ... thus reverting to C

Once I've had a good look at it, and tried not to be thick, I will let you know.. After editing Xorgwizard and xwin, I realised how confusing I find it all!

Quote:
while I was on a C coding spree I also threw together a small tool similar to xmessage (called xcbmsg)
it doesn't have buttons or return any exit codes, but uses less than half the resources of xmessage.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70772
I am thinking about porting the meh image viewer to xcb next.

I just saw that before coming here, looks nice.. I actually went the other way and symlinked xmessage to gxmessage, just so it all looks more uniform.. But I will definitely have a look at it, and see where I can use it. best.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 08:57    Post subject:  

I am dense. Akita is that the official name for Puplite 6.0 Alpha
when it goes official as Akita Puppy something?

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 11:43    Post subject: Russian mo-txt files  

I've made some mo-files for Russian. I have also added puppy-desktop.mo and pmount.mo and have changed a little xorgwizard.mo.
pup_advert_blocker didn't work because there was no .mo-file for chosen locale (Russian). It works with .mo-file. I guess it should switch to English mo-file when mo-file of chosen locale is not found.
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