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wjaguar

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 06:01    Post subject:  

sc0ttman wrote:
I also have updated mtpaint - which means I had to add jasper to make it work. So that's an extra 250kb added, at least... Sad Nothing else needs jasper - can't mtpaint be compiled without? If so, what features would be missing without jasper?

Yes it can be compiled without; and what would be missing is JPEG2000 image format (file extensions .jp2, .jpc, .j2k).
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 06:16    Post subject:  

wjaguar wrote:
sc0ttman wrote:
I also have updated mtpaint - which means I had to add jasper to make it work. So that's an extra 250kb added, at least... Sad Nothing else needs jasper - can't mtpaint be compiled without? If so, what features would be missing without jasper?

Yes it can be compiled without; and what would be missing is JPEG2000 image format (file extensions .jp2, .jpc, .j2k).

Hmmm... Does anyone actually use those? I'm not sure I've ever even seen those file formats before!

EDIT: tried compiling it, fails at the make stage, fails at/cant find -lX11 ... Sad

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 06:54    Post subject:  

vanchutr wrote:
wwdial won't work if we don't have libstdc++.so.5.0.6 = 714 K (730372 bytes) = 714 K (730372 bytes)
(The old libstdc++.so.5.0.6 is an symlink, i won't work)

Hi vanchutr, thanks for catching the libstdc issue.. I am not sure what to do next, your advice will be greatly appreciated... I have not used wvdial, and I know very little about it...

1. What exactly does wvdial do? Dialup PPP connections? Is it absolutely necessary to have it? Does puppy have other tools which can do the same thing? Roaring Penguin? Or it that something different?

2. Does anyone know of any other programs that require the older 'libstdc++.so.5.0.6', which is currently not included? I could not find any...

3. Can I remove wvdial and libwv (etc) and leave out the older libstdc? If so, I will save around 1mb! If not, the SFS will have to grow by 750kb Sad


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We can't mount partition etx4 (in akita)

I don't know much about this either! But I know Puppy 4 did not support ext4..

However, I wanted ext4 working, so I updated e2fsprogs and other packages to the Wary 5.1.x packages.. It seems it is not enough.. I think a new kernel is required, I've read ext4 support is compiled into the kernel (at least in SLAX and a few others).

Code:
cat /proc/filesystems
will show which are supported.. I plan to release an Akita with a Wary 5.1.x kernel, too - maybe that will do the trick.

Again, any advice you have in this area will be great!

don570 wrote:
I corrected the problem in Zathura with spaces in
filenames and folder names. I now have a new
version 1.8

Lovely, grabbed, will test, and add soon.. Although I think I already fixed it in 1.7, but I'll update anyway...

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wuwei


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 06:59    Post subject:  

Thanks radky and sc0ttman.

PupSnap 1.61. does all I have been missing. It is now a useful and convenient tool.

Acidentially, I took this snapshot for you sc0ttman.

It shows an error message when copying a file to a NTFS partition. The file is actually copied alright, but this error message appears, nevertheless.

If it helps you any, this exact same error message came up in spup 121. 01micko seems to have corrected it, because Slacko doesn't show this anymore.

And entirely OT: The words "Knapp" and "Neuere" make no sense at all. This is German alright, but I have no clue, what it could mean here.
I'll see if I find a Puppy on my setup without German localisation and check what it says in English.
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wuwei


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 07:17    Post subject:  

OMG

the English version of that window doesn't make much sense to me either.

Just forget it, it's not an Akita issue, it just shows the limits of my brain. Laughing
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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 07:23    Post subject:  

wuwei wrote:
Thanks radky and sc0ttman.

PupSnap 1.61. does all I have been missing. It is now a useful and convenient tool.

Acidentially, I took this snapshot for you sc0ttman.

And entirely OT: The words "Knapp" and "Neuere" make no sense at all. This is German alright, but I have no clue, what it could mean here.
I'll see if I find a Puppy on my setup without German localisation and check what it says in English.

When copying from ext to NTFS I have always had the error saying that permissions not kept (retained) - this is normal because NTFS does not support permissions in the same way (barely at all, in fact)..

I have no idea what that German message says...
It maybe the same one?? If not, then its a new one to me, as I only ever had messages about permission not being retained.

** EDIT:

And yes, the 'Newer' option makes sense to me - replace only with newer versions, but the others seem to do nothing, and as such, I also cannot say what 'Brief' is supposed to do... And 'Quiet' does not act how I expect - I understand 'Quiet' to mean 'do not ask to overwrite files' - but this appears not to be the case...
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rodin.s

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 08:14    Post subject: wvdial  

Wvdial is used by pupdial. I use pupdial to connect via 3G-modem or mobile phone. PGPRS could be used for mobile phone and pppd scripts for 3G-modem but pupdial is also useful.
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L18L

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 08:23    Post subject: OT
Subject description: knapp
 

wuwei wrote:
..
And entirely OT: The words "Knapp" and "Neuere" make no sense at all. This is German alright, but I have no clue, what it could mean here.
I'll see if I find a Puppy on my setup without German localisation and check what it says in English.

found this on a wary with localization

# msgunfmt /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/Messages/de/LC_MESSAGES/ROX-Filer.mo | grep -B 2 Knapp

msgid "Brief"
msgstr "Knapp"
#
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sc0ttman wrote:
I understand 'Quiet' to mean 'do not ask to overwrite files'

Quiet is without displaying every single copy action (copying directories)
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vanchutr

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:02    Post subject:  

rodin.s wrote
Code:

Wvdial is used by pupdial. I use pupdial to connect via 3G-modem or mobile phone. PGPRS could be used for mobile phone and pppd scripts for 3G-modem but pupdial is also useful.

Exactly

I'd used "usb_modemswitch" to setup my serial modem USB-3G, the later call "wwdial". After those I use pupdial to connect with internet (via USB-3G serial modem)
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wuwei


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:51    Post subject:  

@ sc0ttman and L18L:

Okay the fog is clearing somewhat.

Quiet or "Still" in German means that a directory is copied without intermediate messages for each file. That I knew.

Newer and Neuere makes sense when the newer version of a file is supposed to be copied over the older one as a default. Learned that.

But "brief" and "knapper"? It does the same when copying files as "quiet" does. But I found this in the ROX manual:
Quote:
Brief prevents the filer logging a message every time it does something. Use this to speed things up if large numbers of messages are being logged.

Granted this is not written for the copying function, but for "action window options". Yet, it could apply to copying as well, in analogy.

One could argue the translation as "knapper" to be not exactly elegant. But as long as one doesn't know what "brief" means here, it is irrelevant not to know the meaning of "knapper" either.
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don570


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug 2011, 14:34    Post subject: compiled mtpaint  

I compiled mtpaint so it doesn't use jasper.
I tested it and it works on akita.
I'll post it tomorrow.


I think I can solve the problem with zathura_gui
with a simple test command. I will simply
test to check if the variable is a file.
I'll work on it tonite.

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug 2011, 07:06    Post subject: Re: compiled mtpaint  

don570 wrote:
I compiled mtpaint so it doesn't use jasper.
I tested it and it works on akita.
I'll post it tomorrow.

Brilliant thanks very much Very Happy


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I think I can solve the problem with zathura_gui
with a simple test command. I will simply
test to check if the variable is a file.
I'll work on it tonite.

OK cool, post it, or a link to it, here when you're done..

I also have some work from rasky to look over and get that into Akita as well, should be really nice!!

On a more selfish note, if anyone can help me out here, I'll be forever grateful: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71139

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug 2011, 14:29    Post subject:  

I compiled thisversion 3.34.68 earlier week,
but I was in a rush and didn't have time to post it.
Now I see the interesting post from Dmitri.
explaining what Jasper actually does. I don't understand why
Barry Kauler includes it. It seems useless.

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug 2011, 14:38    Post subject: new mtpaint  

I now see that there is a new version 3.34.68 Rolling Eyes

Here's the news item
Code:

   * Main toolbar and tools toolbar now rearrange themselves to fit in window
   

   * Preferences window now has scrollbars when screen is too small to display it whole
   

   * The preview button on the colour selectors is now a toggle to enable interactive previews
   

+  * Line tool now displays geometry info on the status bar
   

   * Gaussian blur effect now faster by 20-35%
    

   * Image scaling now faster by 10-35%
   

   * "Protect details" toggle added to Kuwahara-Nagao blur

 Here is a summary of the main changes in this release (see handbook for full det
    

   * Animated GIF and multipage TIFF files now can be loaded into layers (one frame/page per layer)
   

   * GIF animation file exploding is now done internally in mtPaint, not Gifsicle
   

   * "Explode Frames" can now save frames in any suitable supported file format
    

+  * File actions can now specify file format conversion : See handbook section A.7 for details
    

   * Netpbm file formats (PBM/PGM/PPM/PAM) save/load added
   

   * PCX file format save/load added
   

   * SVG file format import added (using librsvg; requires GTK+ 2.4 or later)
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:19    Post subject: new zathura 1.9  

new zathura_gui 1.9 corrects some strange behaviour.

I've noticed that the Zathura font (whatever it is
called??) changes depending on which Puppy
variant. Unfortunately with Akita the font is
greyish and hard to read Crying or Very sad

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=557558#557558

Barry Kauler includes an icon
/usr/share/examples/ps-pdf/Acrobat.pdf

Perhaps he does that for legal reasons??
It's size is 45k. You could reduce it's size
by making a replacement with Abiword
Just have some textual info inside the PDF.
I have a link to it for Zathura_gui.

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The lightsword alarm is a lot smaller than I
thought( the package to download
is 400k), but I still recommend
pclock .35 since I localized it
(French and German locals are inside the pet package)
pclock .2 isn't very user-friendly so it
should be avoided.

I don't think lightsword alarm will ever be localized
which is a shame.

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I get confused trying to track down 'pfind'
There are two 'Find files' listed on the menu.

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