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#466 Post by don570 »

Here's the script that I use in Right-click to make an
archive from a folder.
It could be simplified further.

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#!/bin/sh
# A simple script to tar.gz all folders in a directory
# AUTHOR:         vovchik

myspec="$@"
mydir=`dirname "$myspec"`
cd "$mydir"

# ---------------------
function mk_archive()
# ---------------------
{
   if [ -n "$myspec" ]; then
      echo "Archive object: ""$myspec"
      mynewspec=`basename "$myspec"`
      echo "Processing under way..."
      tar -pczf "$mynewspec".tar.gz "$mynewspec"
      echo "All done."
   else
      echo "Usage: mktgz"" [dir] or [file]"
      echo "in dir which contains target dir or file"
   fi
}

# ---------------------
# MAIN
# ---------------------

mk_archive

# ---------------------
# END MAIN
# ---------------------

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#467 Post by don570 »

The screenshot Browser program needs an icon
/usr/share/pixmaps/gtkam.png

Most of the other puppies have it, which is why I used it. :lol:

A link to a camera icon should fix it. :lol:

________________________________-

I tested mhwaveedit and I found that it can open
both .ogg and .aif (popular with MAC users)

So it would make sense to have right click options
for these formats.

'Edit with mhwaveedit'

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#468 Post by Roy »

sc0ttman wrote:
How large are the mp3 files we're talking about?
Actually, the audio book in question was/is a single 210MB mp3 file. I have now used the mp3 splitter pet that don570 linked to on the previous page, and the smaller mp3 files play.

However, somewhere in Akita I saw that my original file was a 64kbs mp3 format -- and the split files all show up as 32kbs. Pmusic (in Three-headed Dog) shows the original 210MB file as a 32kbs mp3...

I would like to thank all concerned for their assistance!

Has anyone successfully connected to a wireless ad-hoc connection via Frisbee in Akita5beta? It has always worked for me in Akita4beta, but 5beta has yet to work. Since this is my only connectivity method, I need to get it sorted on my end (posting from Lucid ATM).

-Roy

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#469 Post by sc0ttman »

Don, thanks for mtpaint and mp3-splitter, and other scripts, that's great stuff..

The right click options do need updating, I was leaving this for another time, as its a bit laborious.. BETA 5 mainly has 'fixes' to make sure Akita can later be released with a newer kernel, better PPM+packages, wider choice of WMs, etc..

I'll take another look at PupZip, unrar, undeb, etc.. they've all been working in the past :roll: I could not reproduce the problem with .htm files though, tested from a fresh boot.

There is actually a way to get MD5 sums - Puphash.. In the SendTo meu - I forgot to make a ROX-App, which I planned to add, as it is somewhat hidden away - which is why I forgot about it!! :lol:

I will take a look at the issues you found soon enough..

For now though, I should note the 'View contents of archive' thing needs the 'AVFS' daemon started from the 'Startups' programs, or 'Boot Manager>Startups'.. It was working fine last time I used it, a while back, but not now.. Even after the daemon is running... Couldn't fix it.. Might remove it..
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Roy, no idea what;s gone on there, the mp3s I tested were all quite low bitrate, but I don't remember what!! I wonder if you have a Wary 5.1.x install, if it says 32kbs or 64kbs - Akita and Wary 5.1.x *should* behave the same!

I don't think I did anything to Frisbee, I'll have a re-look and check..
I plan to update Frisbee anyway, so that'll either fix it or break it more!

Maybe try the Frisbee .pet - install it to just overwrite what's there, it should work out of the box.. Maybe boot with pfix=ram to test..

I know very little about Wireless and limited things to check, but I had most success with SNS I reckon.. Although I understand this may not fit your needs - sorry I can't be of more help...
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#470 Post by starhawk »

sc0ttman, I sent you a PM about Akita... I'm wondering how it will perform on lower-spec systems in general and a system I'm working on in particular... if you can let me know, and depending on other factors (when some needed hardware arrives) I may or may not be able to help beta-test Akita.

EDIT: if I could do it without hijacking the thread somehow, I'd be glad to post my system's specs here...

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#471 Post by Puppyt »

Cheers sc0ttman,
I thought I would try and muddle my way through some feedback on Akita5. Still 2 weeks of skool "holidays" remaining (!) so in desperation I thought I'd lego together a new games and multimedia 'entertainment' system for them from the bits and pieces I have around the house, and try your latest puplet. Well, due to cpu and ram deterioration issues, plus a sprinkling of IDE cable fails, I managed to whittle it down to a third trainwreck that seems to be staying alive:
1) The testbed - EP-MVP3C2 / 500MHz (AMD)K2-6 / 256MB RAM (here's the full horror: http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/epox/ep-mvp3c.htm)
...but I've added a 2-port USB2.0 PCI card, an Ensoniq ES-1371 soundcard+gameport, and in keeping with my cannibalistic interests in modularising components efficiently as possible- the HD is a 2Gb SD-card on an IDE adapter, and I have a library of avi movies on a USB caddy with a 250Gb ATA formatted with NTFS. In theory, if the machine goes 'ping' in a way that it shouldn't I can flip the latter 2 components immediately into another system. This Frankenstein is plugged into a big LCD TV as a monitor.

2) The machine is the ultimate in Net-nanniship and is not connected online. We don't have the bandwidth to share with the kids at present, so they have to miss out on FRIV and other flash-rich sites, meantimes. This makes it harder to upgrade via PPM and dependency checking as I've had to ferret everything from the online desktop elsewhere in the house, via USB flash drive. (sorry, "ferry" everything. But I have been through your repository like a dose of salts, sc0ttman - thanks especially for all those games!)

3) INSTALLATION. I used gparted to format the SD-card as ext3 and made a 512MB swap for it (I normally use only 256MB but I thought doubling that would help general running performance. Am I correct in thinking that?)
I've always stuck with GRUB1 for my frugal installs/dual boots on other machines, and this is My First Grub4DOS experience. Strange - even though I'm sure I was opting for a full install via the Universal installer, Akita installed frugally. I might have to wipe and start again...
Not your fault, but I have never been able to get a correctly-recognised install with the Universal installer's "USB-FLASH" pmedia coding in the menu.lst. I inevitably get this weird "pup_420.sfs not found" error unless I change the entry to "pmedia=idehd". Perhaps my mod here contributes to strange pmount /icon behaviour with sda0 showing up as a floppy, and often residual ghosts of mounted USB drives from previous sessions (not just restarting X, even after rebooting). I note too that I can't change my pmount preferences, e.g. have all detected drives shown on one page. Is this only a glitch for me?

4) Akita5 Wouldn't recognise the NTFS-formatted usb caddy until after some number of reboots and after installing an ntfs-3g pet from shinobar's puppy4 repository. (Even after install I was frequently getting a "NTFS-3G probe: Device is missing" error dialogue, but it's gone now.) Alas, I see now from your notes you're working on the VLC issue as nothing I tried was able to get a movie opening.

5) I installed FF7 and Standalone Flash11 player from your repositories, (via my usb-shuttling) but FF7.01 gives a string of missing dependencies, and I get a "browser library" error for the flashplayer. Maybe I should have installed the browser first (!) and got the dependencies hunted down early. We have quite a collection of swf games downloaded via the 'Games' thread of the puppy forums, but they'll have to sit pretty for a while...

6) Hmmm tried to install My First Linux Joystick. No luck as yet with the Quickshot QS-189, doesn't seem to be picked up by your joystick.daemon (joystick.pet?) even after I edited modprobe.conf to enable joystick=1 (that is, gameport=on). Think that *might* have lost retrovol in my attempt, and I can't get it back showing on the tray even after trying all the alsa wizard options (the original wizard keeps dropping out, too). I've been hunting around for solutions for correctly configuring the gameport on the ES-1317, but it's not a big deal for me at the moment.

7) Java. Went with shinobar's most recent pet, but then remembered that I should have tried ttuuxx's version with 'jar' files opening automatically via his exec bin he included (for numbkins like me). I've got a string of "little" jar game files (ignoring the java overhead for the present) I'd like to provide the kids.

So, in closing it seems that I'll have to wipe for another tilt at a full install, paying closer attention to your (great) 4-stage install options (how can I find and run those again like the desktop preferences, perhaps?). Again, this setup is just a stopgap so when the replacement CPU arrives for the larger project (maxed out ASRock K7S41GX mobo) I can just slot the SD card over. And while I'm in the real world - the kids received for Christmas a "mancala" boardgame which they are crazy about. Could you consider adding that ancient African strategy game to your repository (other names and variants include awari, wari) - championed by muggins (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 1520dffc72,http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=19809,http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 4da3901540 he was puppifying a tlc version that has been updated since the issue was last visited on these forums http://www.nongnu.org/awale/. I think it would be a worthwhile addition re your earlier post of games suggestions,
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geany, petget

#472 Post by rodin.s »

Desktop drive icons work now. But geany does not open files. petget does not work. I can't remove installed packages. Some error in terminal.

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# geany
geany: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiognutls.so: undefined symbol: g_tls_backend_get_type
# petget
gtkdialog4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiognutls.so: undefined symbol: g_tls_backend_get_type
gtkdialog4: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiognutls.so: undefined symbol: g_tls_backend_get_type
My 3G-modem Cricket A600 is not switched, but I guess it's normal for Puppy-4. In works normally only in Wary or Slacko with Barry's zzz-package. I still can use it in Akita, but first I have to boot into Slacko to switch it into modem mode and reboot.

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Re: geany, petget

#473 Post by sc0ttman »

Thanks for testing guys, sorry to hear abut the problems!

rodin.s, I have just booted a fresh frugal install of Beta 5, but I cannot reproduce these problems..

- I haven't had any problems using geany
- I am not getting any libgio errors ..
- I have just successfully installed/removed about 10 packages...

- It's true that some packages do not remove themselves, but 90% will..
- Most of the packages that won't remove have a newer format of petspecs file
- (they were built for much newer pups/puplets)

However, the whole 3G thing is a mystery to me,
if someone could make a usb_modeswitch or zzz_ .pet for Akita, that would be great..

Puppyt, a bigger swap should help I think, yeah..

- The Universal Installer does need testing, after its gtkdialog4 updates (esp. 'RETVAL' stuff)

- I have fixed the pmount Preferences error, prefs now work as expected
- Try uncommenting lines 162-169 in /usr/sbin/pmount to fix floppy weirdness
- The other pmount stuff (leftover drives, etc) is new to me....

- Do you have the URL for shinobars ntfs-3g pet? I can't find it..
- Try `vlc /path/to/file` to see why VLC won't work for you (another weird one!)

- about the joystick: maybe `insmod joystick`
- the device is apparently supported by 2.4 kernel!

- The Firefox 7.0.1 pet does indeed list many missing deps, but should work fine
- Found a bug when using Browser-Installer to install Firefox and run it straight away, though

- "FlashPlayer 11" in the PPM needs the "browserlibs" dependency, which is installed automatically, using PPM
- Also, the "Flash Installer" downloads a gtk1 Flashplayer to /root, then installs it, if you want that one instead

- Good point, I'll move custom startup stuff to a separate script, then it can be re-run very easily
- I will add the game to the repo... If I get it working..
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#474 Post by Puppyt »

Thanks for all that legwork, sc0ttman -
in haste, first up apologies for getting my facts wrong earlier - I had used shinobar's JRE (v x.x.30 - from memory) and not ntfs3G as stated earlier - that was from chrome307 (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 739#432739). I raided shinobar's puppy 4 stuff here - http://182.164.210.245/puppy/pup4/opt/.
Thanks for the tip on the joystick - just found extra details here that I'll follow on shortly : http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 4025#14025. I'm totally in the dark about 'insmod' and 'modprobe' commands, and will find out whether they make persistent changes to setup as only when I make typos do I see that my commands (might have) made any effect. Thanks too for all the tips on preferences and for VLC- I'll try them out later too.
RAM problems with this machine - 2 SDRAM and one EDO for the 3 slots available, so performance is slowed to the lowest common denominator (the EDO). If I can dig out another SDRAM I might be able to scoot along better - until the new CPU arrives for the other machine at least.
Thanks for the interest in mancala. I was actually thinking of dividing the games on here in different sections - light (tcl/tkl games and consoles), medium and heavy (including "Beret", which showed promise in this super-slow setup). Unfortunately the kids skip over the console games nearly immediately, maybe some of the tcl that MU had organised (pups) might provide them with sufficient 'bling' to keep them exploring. I'll give it a go,

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Akita error - fixed by new save file.

#475 Post by rodin.s »

My mistake. Everything works with new savefile. Maybe old one was corrupted by unclear shutdown.
Passwords in /usr/sbin/pupdial are invisible. I changed the code a little to make it visible openly as letters, not as dots. It's ok for me, but maybe not for everybody else.

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#476 Post by sc0ttman »

note, my site, and hence the repo, will be down for a day or two... sorry..
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#477 Post by starhawk »

What happened?

Also, sc0ttman, as soon as it's back up I can begin assisting with the beta-test of Akita on the system I had told you about. I quite look forward to this!

For the rest of ya'll: system is a second thin client (the first was what introduced me to puppy; good story there, but not for this thread). 400MHz VIA Eden CPU, "Esther" core. 512MB RAM. 4gb MicroDrive in adapter*. Extra 2 USB ports on back, replacing (useless to me) parallel port dongle connector. Tested with Puplite 5, worked quite nicely from CD. Planning a full install of Akita, with a 512mb swap partition.

*This was what caused the hangup so that I couldn't do it till today -- had to get both a new MicroDrive (used the other one elsewhere) and CF->IDE adapter to connect it (the drive uses a CF/CompactFlash connector).

EDIT: couple of small requests, ahead of time... may have asked this before... (1) is there any way in Akita to make the drive icons dynamic like in, eg, Wary 511...? (2) please please PLEASE make there a place in the boot menu to edit the boot: command string... very annoying (to me) not to have that ability.

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#478 Post by sc0ttman »

starhawk wrote:What happened?
Low on cash.
(1) is there any way in Akita to make the drive icons dynamic like in, eg, Wary 511...?
Yep, its in the 1st boot menu - Akita will ask if you "want to enable the ROX desktop".. Or go to the terminal and type

`toggle-rox-desktop start`
(2) please please PLEASE make there a place in the boot menu to edit the boot: command string... very annoying (to me) not to have that ability.
Akita uses GRUB.. Just hit the 'e' key on a boot entry to edit its contents.. That should be stated somewhere at the bottom.. Note, to change the boot options permanently you have to edit menu.lst, which can be done after Puppy is installed somewhere..
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#479 Post by starhawk »

Thanks, sc0ttman, for the tips. Sorry to hear about the "low on cash" bit... if you have paypal, I'll send you what I've got (all of a whopping $2) if you'd like... I'm not saying it's much, I'm just saying it's what I got.

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wacom bamboo tablet

#480 Post by don570 »

Wacom bamboo tablet works on Akita 6


I used wacom-0.8.4-4-k2.6.25.16.pet <-- For Puppies 4.1.x and 4.2.x (non-retro)
I found here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 29&t=16491

Here's mtpaint pressure output
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akita linux beta6

#481 Post by sc0ttman »

Akita Linux Beta 6

Download URL: akita-linux-beta6.iso

md5: 5f92836e3e5c69fe2bc8086bce22dbb6, 89.75 MB

Devx, for compiling: akita_devx.sfs (sfs3, 90MB)

(Remember, Akita linux is, for now, still using sfs3, k2.6.25.16, just like puppy 4.1, 4.2 and 4.2.1)

Here are all the changes I have not previously posted about:

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	x fix toggle rox desktop; returns 0 if on; 1 if off; 255 if error; required by desksetup.sh and akita_setup
	x update SNS to latest, as it now has profile support :)
	x update to ffconvert 1.2, can now rip DVDs :)
	x fix pmount prefs not working
	x fix pupzip; open archives without problems, make xarchiver default
	x fix akita customised startup setup:
			- move all akita startup to separate script (akita_setup, ran from firstrun)
			- add akita_setup menu entry in Setup
			- now a single GUI, with extra options and tools available
	x fix pupcamera, add /usr/bin/gphotofs, update pupcamera to latest from woof
	x fix universal installer when reading DISTRO_SPECS
	x fix for i18n of /usr/bin/zdrvcutr_gui
	x fix for browser installer when installing and running firefox-7.0.1-akita
	x update browser installer, now installs dillo3
	x fix Frisbee: update to latest
	x fix desksetup; run toggle rox desktop if rox not running, rather than the error mesg
	x fix /usr/sbin/blkid-name-generator: add / to acceptable chars if device doesnt exist (at end of script)
	x fix htop; rollback to 0.9, cos htop-1.0 keeps crashing
	x fixed the main JWM menu - now up to date at 1st boot
	x update '~/Startup/joystick-daemon' startup script:
	 		- now supports many more gameports and joypads, webcams, v4l, dvb
	 		- most modprobe cmds can be removed/commented out as needed
	x ROX-Apps and right click options:
			- fix phash; add to /usr/bin; create ROX App/add to right click menus (hijack gtkhash rox app)
			- fix "add to archive" right click option; only supports tar.gz now though :(
			- fix run actions/right click options of tar.gz, rpm, deb, other archives
			- fix pfind right click options for mount points: OpenWith/.inode_mount-point
			- fix mhwaveedit right click options; remove .flac... Add .ogg and .aif
			- add pemasus unrar right click option thing
	x updated to mtpaint 3.34.74, no jasper
	x added to Akita repo, not yet in PPM:
			4pane-0.8.0-i386.pet, file manager
			gsudoku-akita.pet, game
			MediaInfo_GUI_0.7.52-i386.pet, media file util
			mp3splt-gtk-0.5.7a-i386.pet, mp3 splitter
			multivnc-0.5.1-i386.pet, VNC client
			pidgin-2.7.5-i386.pet, chat client
			sylpheed-3.1.2-p4.pet, email client
			sylpheed_NLS-3.1.2-p4.pet, email client locales
			xawtv-20081014.pet, cam, tv thing
			xawtv-DVB-20081014.pet, cam, tv, DVB, thing
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#482 Post by Puppyt »

Cheers sc0ttman!
I downloaded and burned a copy of Beta6 this afternoon. This time around, I've used a 4GB CF card with an ide adapter and loaded Akita onto it via my main work machine (wifi internet) so that once I have all the particular packages and dependencies resolved I can move the card to the kids (non-internet) machine.
I guess I've been blindsighted by something obvious, but can anyone shed some light on my problem please: I want to do a single FULL install on the CF card. Now in Puppies past, I understand that GRUB wasn't required for a FULL install and would boot the (only) Puplet on board the drive. I've already mentioned that I've never had luck in using the Puppy universal installs' option "Internal IDE/SATA Flash Drive (exs: CF card, SD media)" but I thought I'd try it here after sc0ttman's note above about a fix for DISTRO SPECS (?).
Oh yeah - wiped the drive with gparted first, ext3 format for 2.5GB, linux swap 512MB. I guess MBR was wiped too (?)
Anyway, after installing my software+dependencies, rebooted with a standard safe file of 512MB - and some sort of 'gldr not found' error halts all. So I guess that GRUB4DOS is a necessity for this, however -
GRUB4DOS insists on including the parameter "pmedia=usbflash" which isn't healthy for my intended setup. Is that an known error? I also note that several times (e.g., pmount) AKITA insists on calling the ATA SanDisk SDCFB-40 a "floppy". The incorrect icon problem I had before is resolved however, thank you sc0ttman.
So given I want as little/none of the standard GRUB4DOS options showing for the kids as possible (meddling fingers etc) I imagine changing "time" in menu.lst might be the best option. Alternatively, I was thinking of wiping again and doing a full install with an earlier Pupplet where no form of GRUB is required, and just over-write with the equivalent AKITA files (initrd, vmlinuz etc).
I wouldn't normally carp on about such matters, but I note that starhawk is engaged in a very similar project (CF-adapter) and if I can flag any problems he might be having (or solved!) that would be a bonus,
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#483 Post by sc0ttman »

My guess is that a CF card is treated like a USB device in all Puppies...

While Akita does indeed use Grub4Dos as its default boot loader, just like shinobars Quicket Puppies, Akita does still allow users to install Akita without using GRUB - using isolinux, or extlinux, etc...

I have installed this way, frugally, to my USB.. No grub in sight..
I do NOT have any experience creating a full install however!

To skip the GRUB screen completely, you edit menu.lst and change the time bit to zero, as you know...
That will skip the boot screen entirely..

Also, menu.lst can be edited to remove the pmedia=usbflash bit, it can be replaced with pmedia=atahd for a normal hard drive... Also, you can click 'e' on the GRUB boot menu to edit a boot entry on a per-boot basis...

And yeah, wiping the drive, as opposed to a particular partition, would also wipe the MBR..

Again, I can't say about the floppy icon issue, but try uncommenting the lines 162-169 (around there anyway...) .. Or you could disable the floppy drives in your BIOS, if you don't use them...

Hope that helps, without more experience with full installs, I can't say - I always use frugal installs, as I tinker a lot and very often don't save my changes.
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#484 Post by greengeek »

Hey puppyt, I couldn't get the "internal cf" installer to run as I expected either. (hope this isn't going too off-topic...).
If you have a spare mo' could you check my post at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71879
I think I ended up with something like a full cf install similar to what you were wanting. Just don't quite know how I got there, but you may be able to interpret my post and pick out some speck of useful info. (I had been wanting multiple frugals on the cf, not a single full install).

Also had the same issues about the cf being seen as a usb device.

I love Akita. (I'm still trying to find a way to permanently modify the live cd so it loads as pfix=ram only. I've achieved it with a different distro, but when I try the same trick on Akita I get grub error 15. I will get there in the end tho')
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#485 Post by sc0ttman »

Hi greengeek,

The Universal Installer does not yet support GRUB, it will always install extlinux or isolinux (depending on where you install to) as the boot loader.. This is fine, because you can then run GRUB installer or Grub4Dos to install grub and replace the MBR with one that uses grub in one fell swoop...

The frugal installer will automatically create a frugal install which uses grub4dos..

And to remaster the ISO with pfix=ram inside menu.lst should be really easy with Woofy... It will tell you before it builds the ISO, and where the contents are the ISO are to be found, so they can be edited before the ISO is actually created..

Or ISO Master (Menu>Multimedia>Burn) could do it as well..

Here is the 2nd boot choice on the Akita Live CDs:

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title Akita Linux in RAM only\nRun totally in RAM, ignore saved sessions (don't load save file)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=ram vga=0x315
initrd /initrd.gz
This should work fine.. To make this the default, you can change the top of menu.lst from this:

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#color black/cyan black/yelow white/black yellow/black
splashimage=/splash.xpm
#forground=FFFF00
#background=000088
default 0
timeout 20
to this (notice 'default' boot entry has changed):

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#color black/cyan black/yelow white/black yellow/black
splashimage=/splash.xpm
#forground=FFFF00
#background=000088
default 1
timeout 20
If that doesn't work, you can change the 1st boot entry.. Just add 'pfix=ram' after 'pmedia=cd', leaving the default as 0...

Also, you can change "timeout 20" to "timeout 0" to hide the boot menu completely.


BTW, in case it helps anyone, here is my menu.lst,
a frugal install on an internal ATA hard drive:

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title Akita Linux in RAM
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /akita/initrd.gz
  kernel /akita/vmlinuz pdev=sda1 pmedia=atahd psubdir=akita pfix=usbsave,ram nousbwait=1 vga=0x315
  initrd /akita/initrd.gz
The key line is:

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  kernel /akita/vmlinuz pdev=sda1 pmedia=atahd psubdir=akita pfix=usbsave,ram nousbwait=1 vga=0x315
But this is what works, in its simplest form:

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  kernel /akita/vmlinuz
BTW, irrelevant, but the vga=0x315 is the resolution for the framebuffer (set to 800x600 by default)

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