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sc0ttman


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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jan 2012, 14:29    Post_subject: akita linux beta6
Sub_title: released jan 15th, 2012
 

Akita Linux Beta 6

Download URL: akita-linux-beta6.iso

md5: 5f92836e3e5c69fe2bc8086bce22dbb6, 89.75 MB

Devx, for compiling: akita_devx.sfs (sfs3, 90MB)

(Remember, Akita linux is, for now, still using sfs3, k2.6.25.16, just like puppy 4.1, 4.2 and 4.2.1)

Here are all the changes I have not previously posted about:

Code:
   x fix toggle rox desktop; returns 0 if on; 1 if off; 255 if error; required by desksetup.sh and akita_setup
   x update SNS to latest, as it now has profile support :)
   x update to ffconvert 1.2, can now rip DVDs :)
   x fix pmount prefs not working
   x fix pupzip; open archives without problems, make xarchiver default
   x fix akita customised startup setup:
         - move all akita startup to separate script (akita_setup, ran from firstrun)
         - add akita_setup menu entry in Setup
         - now a single GUI, with extra options and tools available
   x fix pupcamera, add /usr/bin/gphotofs, update pupcamera to latest from woof
   x fix universal installer when reading DISTRO_SPECS
   x fix for i18n of /usr/bin/zdrvcutr_gui
   x fix for browser installer when installing and running firefox-7.0.1-akita
   x update browser installer, now installs dillo3
   x fix Frisbee: update to latest
   x fix desksetup; run toggle rox desktop if rox not running, rather than the error mesg
   x fix /usr/sbin/blkid-name-generator: add / to acceptable chars if device doesnt exist (at end of script)
   x fix htop; rollback to 0.9, cos htop-1.0 keeps crashing
   x fixed the main JWM menu - now up to date at 1st boot
   x update '~/Startup/joystick-daemon' startup script:
          - now supports many more gameports and joypads, webcams, v4l, dvb
          - most modprobe cmds can be removed/commented out as needed
   x ROX-Apps and right click options:
         - fix phash; add to /usr/bin; create ROX App/add to right click menus (hijack gtkhash rox app)
         - fix "add to archive" right click option; only supports tar.gz now though :(
         - fix run actions/right click options of tar.gz, rpm, deb, other archives
         - fix pfind right click options for mount points: OpenWith/.inode_mount-point
         - fix mhwaveedit right click options; remove .flac... Add .ogg and .aif
         - add pemasus unrar right click option thing
   x updated to mtpaint 3.34.74, no jasper
   x added to Akita repo, not yet in PPM:
         4pane-0.8.0-i386.pet, file manager
         gsudoku-akita.pet, game
         MediaInfo_GUI_0.7.52-i386.pet, media file util
         mp3splt-gtk-0.5.7a-i386.pet, mp3 splitter
         multivnc-0.5.1-i386.pet, VNC client
         pidgin-2.7.5-i386.pet, chat client
         sylpheed-3.1.2-p4.pet, email client
         sylpheed_NLS-3.1.2-p4.pet, email client locales
         xawtv-20081014.pet, cam, tv thing
         xawtv-DVB-20081014.pet, cam, tv, DVB, thing

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 08:39    Post_subject:  

Cheers sc0ttman!
I downloaded and burned a copy of Beta6 this afternoon. This time around, I've used a 4GB CF card with an ide adapter and loaded Akita onto it via my main work machine (wifi internet) so that once I have all the particular packages and dependencies resolved I can move the card to the kids (non-internet) machine.
I guess I've been blindsighted by something obvious, but can anyone shed some light on my problem please: I want to do a single FULL install on the CF card. Now in Puppies past, I understand that GRUB wasn't required for a FULL install and would boot the (only) Puplet on board the drive. I've already mentioned that I've never had luck in using the Puppy universal installs' option "Internal IDE/SATA Flash Drive (exs: CF card, SD media)" but I thought I'd try it here after sc0ttman's note above about a fix for DISTRO SPECS (?).
Oh yeah - wiped the drive with gparted first, ext3 format for 2.5GB, linux swap 512MB. I guess MBR was wiped too (?)
Anyway, after installing my software+dependencies, rebooted with a standard safe file of 512MB - and some sort of 'gldr not found' error halts all. So I guess that GRUB4DOS is a necessity for this, however -
GRUB4DOS insists on including the parameter "pmedia=usbflash" which isn't healthy for my intended setup. Is that an known error? I also note that several times (e.g., pmount) AKITA insists on calling the ATA SanDisk SDCFB-40 a "floppy". The incorrect icon problem I had before is resolved however, thank you sc0ttman.
So given I want as little/none of the standard GRUB4DOS options showing for the kids as possible (meddling fingers etc) I imagine changing "time" in menu.lst might be the best option. Alternatively, I was thinking of wiping again and doing a full install with an earlier Pupplet where no form of GRUB is required, and just over-write with the equivalent AKITA files (initrd, vmlinuz etc).
I wouldn't normally carp on about such matters, but I note that starhawk is engaged in a very similar project (CF-adapter) and if I can flag any problems he might be having (or solved!) that would be a bonus,
Cheers.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 14:02    Post_subject:  

My guess is that a CF card is treated like a USB device in all Puppies...

While Akita does indeed use Grub4Dos as its default boot loader, just like shinobars Quicket Puppies, Akita does still allow users to install Akita without using GRUB - using isolinux, or extlinux, etc...

I have installed this way, frugally, to my USB.. No grub in sight..
I do NOT have any experience creating a full install however!

To skip the GRUB screen completely, you edit menu.lst and change the time bit to zero, as you know...
That will skip the boot screen entirely..

Also, menu.lst can be edited to remove the pmedia=usbflash bit, it can be replaced with pmedia=atahd for a normal hard drive... Also, you can click 'e' on the GRUB boot menu to edit a boot entry on a per-boot basis...

And yeah, wiping the drive, as opposed to a particular partition, would also wipe the MBR..

Again, I can't say about the floppy icon issue, but try uncommenting the lines 162-169 (around there anyway...) .. Or you could disable the floppy drives in your BIOS, if you don't use them...

Hope that helps, without more experience with full installs, I can't say - I always use frugal installs, as I tinker a lot and very often don't save my changes.

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 14:42    Post_subject:  

Hey puppyt, I couldn't get the "internal cf" installer to run as I expected either. (hope this isn't going too off-topic...).
If you have a spare mo' could you check my post at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=71879
I think I ended up with something like a full cf install similar to what you were wanting. Just don't quite know how I got there, but you may be able to interpret my post and pick out some speck of useful info. (I had been wanting multiple frugals on the cf, not a single full install).

Also had the same issues about the cf being seen as a usb device.

I love Akita. (I'm still trying to find a way to permanently modify the live cd so it loads as pfix=ram only. I've achieved it with a different distro, but when I try the same trick on Akita I get grub error 15. I will get there in the end tho')

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 15:03    Post_subject:  

Hi greengeek,

The Universal Installer does not yet support GRUB, it will always install extlinux or isolinux (depending on where you install to) as the boot loader.. This is fine, because you can then run GRUB installer or Grub4Dos to install grub and replace the MBR with one that uses grub in one fell swoop...

The frugal installer will automatically create a frugal install which uses grub4dos..

And to remaster the ISO with pfix=ram inside menu.lst should be really easy with Woofy... It will tell you before it builds the ISO, and where the contents are the ISO are to be found, so they can be edited before the ISO is actually created..

Or ISO Master (Menu>Multimedia>Burn) could do it as well..

Here is the 2nd boot choice on the Akita Live CDs:

Code:
title Akita Linux in RAM only\nRun totally in RAM, ignore saved sessions (don't load save file)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=ram vga=0x315
initrd /initrd.gz


This should work fine.. To make this the default, you can change the top of menu.lst from this:

Code:
#color black/cyan black/yelow white/black yellow/black
splashimage=/splash.xpm
#forground=FFFF00
#background=000088
default 0
timeout 20

to this (notice 'default' boot entry has changed):

Code:
#color black/cyan black/yelow white/black yellow/black
splashimage=/splash.xpm
#forground=FFFF00
#background=000088
default 1
timeout 20


If that doesn't work, you can change the 1st boot entry.. Just add 'pfix=ram' after 'pmedia=cd', leaving the default as 0...

Also, you can change "timeout 20" to "timeout 0" to hide the boot menu completely.


BTW, in case it helps anyone, here is my menu.lst,
a frugal install on an internal ATA hard drive:

Code:
title Akita Linux in RAM
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /akita/initrd.gz
  kernel /akita/vmlinuz pdev=sda1 pmedia=atahd psubdir=akita pfix=usbsave,ram nousbwait=1 vga=0x315
  initrd /akita/initrd.gz

The key line is:

Code:
  kernel /akita/vmlinuz pdev=sda1 pmedia=atahd psubdir=akita pfix=usbsave,ram nousbwait=1 vga=0x315

But this is what works, in its simplest form:

Code:
  kernel /akita/vmlinuz


BTW, irrelevant, but the vga=0x315 is the resolution for the framebuffer (set to 800x600 by default)
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 15:09    Post_subject:  

Thanks! Changing the default line is something I didn't try. I was moving the second option further up the list instead. I will give it a go.
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 16:14    Post_subject: dir2pet, better for Right Click menu
Sub_title: dir2pet with a 'silent' option,
 

On another note...

The problem with dir2pet is that you must always pre-append `rxvt -e` to run it in the console, because the user must answer questions in the console to make a pet file successfully... I have never seen any 'dir2pet' which does not need ask questions, as Don alluded to...

So, here is a dir2pet I hacked up, with a --silent option, which must be given AFTER the pet file...
The script will not ask you anything if you supply the --silent option, example:

Code:
dir2pet "mypet-0.1" --silent


This is good, because people can now use `dir2pet ./mypetstuff --silent` inside other scripts, such as Package Creator, easypackage, etc.. Here's the list of scripts which use dir2pet, I will make the updates as needed for the next beta:

/usr/bin/dir2pet
/usr/bin/dir2pkg
/usr/bin/dirs2pets
/usr/bin/easypackage
/usr/bin/makepet
/usr/bin/new2dir
/usr/bin/txz2pet
/usr/local/bin/createpet
/usr/local/package_creator_fs/pc_menu

(I built that above list with /usr/sbin/script_grepper, in akita, a nice but dangerous script)

Anyway, "Makepet" will give you a right click option to create .pet files.

I attached the new 'makepet' package, with my new dir2pet..
Also attached is the new dir2pet on its own, with the --silent option..
(dir2pet.gz not a real .gz, just rename and remove .gz)

NOTE: This dir2pet still uses the pup4 petspecs format,
and should not be used on a woof built puppy (431 and later).
makepet-0.0.2-akita.pet
Description  now works nice... includes dir2pet
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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 17:01    Post_subject:  

I did have one in pcompile

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41758

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 20:10    Post_subject:  

@greengeek
thanks very much for the heads-up on your original post - I've just made a comment there, but for the record I usually use only frugal installs myself and manually edit menu.lst. In this case, I thought that I would try for a Full install as I only have 256MB RAM + 64MB RAM on the Winforce GE2 videocard. Then I thought I'd load up wine and dosbox to provide games the kids are familiar with, but it seems my pup_save has come unstuck between machines (described in earlier post) and "no SDL/OpenGL shall pass". Oh well, looks like I might have to frugal a mini-Akita +FreeDos multiboot...

@sc0ttman
I did manage to do what I thought was a full install + Grub4Dos, but in the menu.lst I had to comment out a strange "UUIDE=...." code as well as a default "dpupish" subdirectory. There was a "ro" code that was added automatically to the kernel line (? from memory), but I couldn't see any syslinux file (reminded to me in greengeek's thread) although extlinux is certainly there.
Alas I couldn't test out your latest joystick-daemon, but I really appreciate your looking into that matter.
There was still a bit of a "ghosting" issue - I had had 3 USB drives connected with my main computer (to install variously-collected puppy files from) and after rebooting in the older machine those drives were still presented (with the default 'cog' image) even though no USB drives were present.
Strangely, in my bigger machine I wasn't able to get the ntfs usb-caddy drive recognised, after installing both (or 3) of the ntfs pets in your repository. Nada on the older machine too...
I'll give more feedback later tonight when I have another chance at that project,
Cheers Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2012, 19:06    Post_subject:  

Puppyt, maybe try this, it's a slight remix of the puppy universal installer, with simpler GUI options, and, as far as I can tell, a slightly different method of installing drives...

I have added the fixes that I can remember is essential for Akita, and it definitely identified all my drives fine, yet to test much more than that, though.. And it still won't solve any boot-loader troubles, as far as I know...
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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2012, 19:38    Post_subject:  

Cheers sc0ttman!
*egads* re-reading your original post I realise that my test system(s) are probably off the scale of your intended niche, so I thank you very much indeed for all your consideration to my posts. Especially when things have been tight for you.
I couldn't re-test last night as hoped, but I think I will have some energy spare to have another tilt this evening, with your new PUI2. THANKS!
I've been collecting various screenies and log files etc of my explorations with Akita but it's been a bit piecemeal. Didn't want to clutter your thread here but if you're interested, perhaps I could post them on the site I had set up for hondasid's 501 barebones.
Love the "Akita setup" dialogues in your v6 menu structure, by the way! I still can't seem to find a way to review/revise your initial setup dialogues (4-steps) that you have for a system running with pfix=ram. Is it available in the menu?
Cheers!

P.S. For your (and indeed any) Puppy Shutdown menu, would it be feasible [WAAAAY down the track!] to include an "e2fsck on reboot" option? It would save us eternal noobs who can't seem to get the commands working properly from the prompt, when outside of X. Or, is there already such an option (or similar) for automatic recoveries? I remember I think that the grub4dos install wanted to include a "pmedia=usbflash, pfix=fsck" option in menu.lst but it seemed to slow down normal bootups.

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jan 2012, 20:55    Post_subject:  

any interest in a dropbox uploader? I also have a shell function to add a gui progress meter to wget downloads (could be useful for petget etc... instead of opening a terminal)

Code:
download_progress(){ #pass a file as $1 to download with a GUI progress bar
while ([ $# -gt 0 ]) do
   busybox wget $1 2>&1 | while read LINE; do
      case $LINE in
         *%*)LINE=${LINE##*..};echo ${LINE%%%*};;
      esac
   done |Xdialog --gauge "Download progress ($# files remaining.)
Current file is:
$1" 0 0
   shift
done
}


Note: to get nice icons with Xdialog instead of the X in the titlebar, you can use --wmclass <icon_name-no-suffix>
the icon can be any in jwm's icon path such as /usr/share/{mini-icons,pixmaps}
ex: --wmclass mini-raise
... not to be confused with the --icon parameter which requires a full path and places the icon inside the window with the message text
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 18:38    Post_subject:  

Hi techno,

I have just tried out your download progress bar, but unfortunately, it does not work for me - it stays at 0% until the download is finished, then exits... I am gonna have a look, see if I can learn a bit more about what's going on...

EDIT: scrap that, I got it working! The busybox wget does not work, but it works fine with normal wget and busybox ash...
Awesome, I am gonna try adding this to the PPM, Browser-Installer, Advert-Blocker, and anything I can think of!! Smile

A dropbox thing that could be integrated into a ROX App would be great..
I've read quite a few requests for an easy dropbox upload right click option..

EDIT2: I really like it.. Just i18n'd it as well, French German Spanish Russian Dutch...
using your method from jwm_menu_create...
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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 19:16    Post_subject:  

Downloading the beta6 ISO so that I can futz around on the thin client, see how well it works...

Two things concern me right off the bat:
(1) planning on a full install... is that likely to cause any problems?
(2) hope there's a WPA-compatible driver in there for my RTL-8188 based wifi card... if not, I won't be able to test the internet-based portions of things.

Also... would the "frugal install with save on root of drive (not a file)" thingy work on Akita, or bomb completely like every other version of Puppy I've seen with that option...?

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PostPosted: Wed 18 Jan 2012, 19:57    Post_subject:  

sc0ttman wrote:
EDIT2: I really like it.. Just i18n'd it as well, French German Spanish Russian Dutch...
using your method from jwm_menu_create...
Thanks, I often forget about internationalization while trying to get it to "just work" (I guess that is why the localization teams exist in various projects - apparently I am not the only one)
... the wget and curl progress bars are quite annoying to work with... I may have anoter look at the busybox wget to make it compatible, but wget and curl are a PITA to grok into a gui - the busybox wget was particularly stubborn, so it may be easier to patch the source to check progress every 1 second, and if progress increased, then printf("%s\n",progress);

I haven't gotten to test akita in a while, ( still working on my ultra-minimalist stuff with goingnuts, - yes we are zealots ) but just looking at the changelog, it seems that you are making a lot of excellent progress (some of which I may eventually borrow)

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