Akita Linux, Beta 16 ISO

[sc0ttman]

Also, here is my modded download_progress, a great little GUI, by techno, for showing, you guessed it, a files download progress! (see a few posts above)

I have i18n'd it, but the translations probably need fixing, adding to, etc..
I also added a 2nd, optional parameter - an output file or dir

Usage: download_progress URL [output file/dir]

Here is the file, attached.
(not a real .gz, just rename and remove the extension)

Updated translations, code cleanups or fixes welcome.

[rodin.s]

A little fix of above file for Russian. I have also updated translation for FFConvert.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 295#599295

[esmourguit]

Bonjour à toutes et tous,

Here is the download_progress script, with the french translation modified, based on modified russian translation.

The progress bar doesn't work for me on Wary 522

Cordialement .

[Argolance]

Hello,
Téléchargé hier pour test: certains esprits sont faits pour se rencontrer!

The progress bar doesn't work for me on Wary 522

... But works fine with Puppy/Toutou 4.31!

Cordialement!

[sc0ttman]

The progress bar doesn't work for me on Wary 522

Maybe try `busybox wget` instead of `wget` ... Or remove -c -4....
All on line 58...
Or maybe try adding LANG=C outside the download_progress function

EDIT: Thanks very much rodin.s and esmourguit for the fixed/corrected translations

[sc0ttman]

This code (below) helped me check which are 'real' .mo files, and which are text files in /usr/share/local/*...
I plan to rename all the fake .mo files in Akita to .locale files...
Any thoughts on that are welcome!!

The check:

Code: Select all

 for x in /usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/*; do echo "$(file "$x" | head -1 | cut -f1 -d'(' | cut -f7 -d'/')" ; done

[sc0ttman]

I have added the following e16 window manager .pets to the Akita repo:

http://akita.scottjarvis.com/e16-1.0.9-akita.pet
http://akita.scottjarvis.com/e16_epplets-0.13.pet
http://akita.scottjarvis.com/e16_DOC-1.0.9.pet
http://akita.scottjarvis.com/e16_DEV-1.0.9.pet

E16 is supposed to work great on old PCs.

Notes: The 'Applications' menu seems to be messed up - double entries for all .desktop files... Not sure what causes it.. I will be using e16 over the coming days, and try to improve it on Akita.

[don570]

Pemasu was careful to set up the e17 WM in Exprimo
to make it useable. It can be a mess if it's not set up correctly.
I wrote quick_launch to deal with the strange interface.
You should continue to modify it to satisfy your needs.

Macpup has links to instructions to use e17 WM, but not sure
if they're any use for e16 WM
http://hardkap.net/forums/topic/e17-guide

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[sc0ttman]

Pemasu was careful to set up the e17 WM in Exprimo
to make it useable...You should continue to modify it to satisfy your needs.

Not gonna be easy - I will need to edit the main script which creates the menu, and its a PERL script, and my PERL is crap. The script is /usr/share/e16/scripts/e_gen_menu ... Maybe a BASH alternative could be used? A wrapper should suffice, that:

- eliminates duplicates
- consolidates/combines some of the categories (with sed?)

And my needs are zero - I don't ever want to use e16 or e17; if anyone wants it really nice - best not wait for me to set it up!

E16 might be nice once setup with all bells and whistles, but I don't like bells and whistles...
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About JWM:

I plan to update JWM in Akita, to fix at least 1 problem: dual screens.

The JWM in Akita does not support proper dual screen setups, so I must use openbox for that..
However, it has been fixed in more recent versions of JWM..

But the latest JWM has other issues..

Firstly, icons are badly messed up - it needs a libpixman update to libpixman-1-0_0.24.0 (I think)
Secondly, the JWM drives do not work with the new 'jwm -reload' option

I might message Joe, to ask if the -reload option can be made to apply to all <include> tags too.
That should fix it, right??

So, at the very least, Akita should soon have a newer JWM, that supports proper dual screens,
but probably not the -reload option...

[sc0ttman]

JWM update: in a test environment... not permanent, yet..

I updated to the latest libpixman...

I then updated to JWM-579 and am currently using Xinerama (enabled through my Nvidia-173 drivers, in repo) to stretch my desktop across 2 independent screens, JWM menus appearing only on first screen, playing a move on my 2nd screen, FF on the 1st, all working well.. This was not possible in earlier versions

The JWM drives don't work quite as nicely with JWM-579 - some gtkdialog windows are not maximising correctly with it enabled, but overall it's working nice..

There's 1 major annoyance for me though - the -reload option does not affect the JWM drive icons, so jwm -restart is still required to update the JWM drive icons

However, fixmenus, restartjwm and other scripts have been updated to use jwm -reload and this is working nicely - installing pets works great - no flicker or JWM restart needed to add programs to the menus!

[technosaurus]

I kinda like having super-simple one-click mount and browse as 1 icon == 1 drive, but one could make the case for a mounts menu which would solve the jwm -reload issue ...
but should it go (could even group the device types)
[device type ->] device -> action
or
action -> [device type ->] device

... could be separate or in the main menu (probably between utilities and setup if so)

Edit the device types could be optical, hard disk, floppy, usb, mmc, [todo ?= iso, sfs, {2,3,4}fs, ???]

[sc0ttman]

I kinda like having super-simple one-click mount and browse as 1 icon == 1 drive, but one could make the case for a mounts menu which would solve the jwm -reload issue ...
but should it go (could even group the device types)
[device type ->] device -> action
or
action -> [device type ->] device

... could be separate or in the main menu (probably between utilities and setup if so)

Edit the device types could be optical, hard disk, floppy, usb, mmc, [todo ?= iso, sfs, {2,3,4}fs, ???]

I think it would be best in the main menu, under 'Setup', as you say...
Then jwm -reload will be very useful indeed...

I think device-type>device>action is better than starting with 'action'..

But I would prefer to have as few categories as possible.. PUI2 style, rather than PUI..
Maybe just 'internal' vs 'removable' or something really easy...
Not sure on that though..
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In general though, I think JWM would be better if it also updated the <include> stuff ...
JWM would be more flexible - my little apps menu and other stuff would benefit...

I wonder if this is something we could do ourselves in Puppy,
or would we have to nag Joe to do that?

I did have a look, but know no C, and was stumped..

[technosaurus]

just a template for now but here is an image ... perhaps I can add a
"set as underdog" option now too
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02668

[charbaby66]

hey scOttman

to recap and add comments further to our last chat..

the project: toshiba satellite 4060xcdt -oldie w/64mb ram and 6gb hd (divided as hda1 3.5g xp on ntfs/ hda2 frugal install 2g fat32/
hda3 64mb ext3 (grub/ boot)/ and 512m linux swap) 2mb trident
video and es1968 sound.

can boot usb w/plOp ... add code: nocopy to your config

QTWeb browser is most successful - java/SSL/flash enabled sites all
work eg: Hotmail (and yes YT but it is slowwwww) (flash is reported in
the QTWeb thread as not working in Akita, but I find that QT and Midori
need the browser libs pet installed first then Flash. I also stick w/Flash
10 which works everywhere I go.. PS> Flash 12 not supported in QT per that thread.

Can you add browser libs to browser install? not sure if i needed it for
flash in the others but do for those 2.

I still get those annoying script errors in QT, but they load in seconds, die
quickly when i cancel it, then QT loads well overall - a small lag once in a
while loading new pages but the best of the bunch. FF FP IC SM OP can take hours! to load the error..20 mins to kill the error and move on only
to choke on another one.. ad nauseum.. You can't beat Dillo for speed,
Midori is almost as fast but can do Flash, its either Java or SSL that they
lack,, I am too CLI impaired to handle elinks but it will do in a pinch but can't do Hotmail... I link to my cache outside savefile. QT's is in
/usr/share for those looking

When I have the patience I may try Chrome -any plans for Iron-akita?
I would use it on other boxes if not good on here.

Gparted not seeing usb hard drive that Rox/icon manager can and do.
No issue in 5.28 or LHP same drive.

Universal Installer does not install full. only frugal on 20g IBM usb hard drive, (was as sba1 -12g Fat32/sba2 7g ext3 /1g linux swap) (does
anyone install full anymore anyway? LOL) Had no dialog re: full vs frugal
as in all other puppies tried.. Fiddled with other ways to get akita to full install.. hoping for a speed gain.

(Sadly while re-trying ways to work around this I used BootFlash in 5.28 to format this drive- forgetting that unlike PUI it formats the whole thing not just the partition you may want to install to (I lost 4 years of notes, Puppy wisdom, files, utils and backups.. do NOT try to be a brainiac when you
are tired!) I am afraid to go further with TestDisk than just look but
oh well I have a new project after I get my OldPup going on Akita...

as I mentioned to you, to install my sound card - not auto detected on
this box (but no probs on other newer systems) I dropped out of x and ran
alsaconf. I was able to install everything needed before creating the
savefile, incl. oldest mesa pkg6.x? for GL/DRI. figured 7 series may be
pushing it for this box, but may test later.

I can get my desktop onto my ext. monitor as well as LCD but need to change resolution to 24 bit from 16 bit. To show videos w/VLC on both i
had to change video output to X11, otherwise VLC will blank in 2nd
screen but all else viewable

Network mostly but then not persistent?! .. not sure why..I just re-load it -linksys usb 54g otherwise ok using dougal's- barry's not persistent at all, but much faster to get running

hard to grab copy of downloaded pet from .packages before it is deleted
but like the fact it does remove after install.. a save this pet? option would be nice? any suggestions are just that...

can test suggested fixes if needed.. overall akita lives very nicely on here..amazing work on such a low spec box eh? thank you for this

[sc0ttman]

just a template for now but here is an image ... perhaps I can add a
"set as underdog" option now too
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02668

That looks awesome, exactly as I had imagined... Good work!

Actually, I'd never heard of underdog - until following the link above - I started using Puppy soon after 4.2.1 was released... I went with 4.2 instead of 4.2.1, don't know why, but I have stuck with it ever since..

But yeah, I would be interested in making that work, I'm sure goingnuts and yourself could find some really interesting uses... A really barebones distro, with nice package manager and huge repo would be a good 'underdog', no?

[sc0ttman]

hey scOttman

Gla to hear QtWeb works for you... Flash and all... That's good..
I will have a think about the best way to add browserlibs.pet to browser installer.
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EDIT: It may be better if browserlibs.pet is installed by flash installer...
but only if certain browsers are detected as installed... I'll have a think..

Conversely if a certain browser is being installed, and Flash 11 is detected (how?),
then I guess browserlibs.pet can be instaled then as well...
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I still plan to get a JS enabled elinks in the browser installer,
which would replace the default if installed..
...as well as links-g, ideall with SSL wherever possible..

I want midori to have SSL enabled, too, but I am a crap compiler!
For the same reason, Iron may not be in Akita repo...

Maybe libparted in Akita is too old.. It does not support ext4..
I tried newer libparted versions, inc the Wary511 version,
but it would not work at all right..

I will have a really good go at fixing the PUI, and adding PUI2 as well..
REALLY sorry to hear about your data loss!! I feel kinda responsible now!!
So I will get on that, hopefully full installs will be working in next BETA..

I would be very interested to know which MESA you used, I will add to repo and PPM!

Not sure about network stuff, maybe kernel/hardware probs..

I will definitely have a go at making .pet available to keep when installing through PPM..
I have wanted that feature a lot myself...

Glad you like Akita, I will try to fix the problems you highlighted...
Maybe getting your audo going at 1st boot as well...

[technosaurus]

I still plan to get a JS enabled elinks in the browser installer,
which would replace the default if installed..
...as well as links-g, ideall with SSL wherever possible..

I have preserved these sources.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57466078/elinks-libsee.tar.gz
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57466078/libsee ... 4-6.tar.xz

libsee is _much_ smaller than spidermonkey and is in C only (no C++)

this elinks was taken before this commit:
http://repo.or.cz/w/elinks.git/commit/8 ... 542fac57de

so in theory, one should be able to apply _most_ subsequent commits as patches (maybe with a little fuzz or manual cut/paste)

[sc0ttman]

I still plan to get a JS enabled elinks in the browser installer,
which would replace the default if installed..
...as well as links-g, ideall with SSL wherever possible..

I have preserved these.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57466078/elinks-libsee.tar.gz
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/57466078/libsee ... 4-6.tar.xz

libsee is _much_ smaller than spidermonkey and is in C only (no C++)

Excellent, thank you very much!!

Out of interest, more than anything, could the latest elinks be compiled with libsee?
Cos I went to the trouble of compiling with spidermonkey a few months back...
So I could give libsee a go too, if it is possible...

[technosaurus]

Out of interest, more than anything, could the latest elinks be compiled with libsee?
Cos I went to the trouble of compiling with spidermonkey a few months back...
So I could give libsee a go too, if it is possible...

I was just editing my post to explain that -sortof - they actually removed all of the code, but if you are good with git, you could probably fork it and revert that commit, otherwise you can apply all relevant patches since that commit

[Puppyt]

sc0ttman, charbaby66's excellent feedback on his old clunker reminded me to ask you to consider Qupzilla as an optional browser. For me it seems to work best in my XP setup but crashes only very infrequently in the Puppy5 Puplets I've tried it with. Ideal for patchy 3G wireless broadband like we have - super fast and now even the wife prefers it over her IEeeee