Akita Linux, Beta 16 ISO

[greengeek]

p.s. I still use flash9.0.289+version mod

Do you have any tips about what the version mod is? Do you mean it reports as a newer version? And do you think it can be tried with any browser / any puppy or is it an Akita specific version? thx

[sc0ttman]

p.s. I still use flash9.0.289+version mod

Do you have any tips about what the version mod is? Do you mean it reports as a newer version? And do you think it can be tried with any browser / any puppy or is it an Akita specific version? thx

The script /usr/sbin/get-flash did do it for you.... But now it downloads a pre-patched flash9 pet : http://akita.scottjarvis.com/flashplaye ... 110327.pet

This code makes report itself as flash10.1:

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VER=`strings libflashplayer.so | grep -e "^Shockwave Flash [.\d+]*" | sed -e "s/Shockwave Flash //g"`
cat libflashplayer.so |sed -e "s/$VER/10.1 r99/g" >$PLUGINDIR/libflashplayer.so

[bark_bark_bark]

I found Firedog 3.6 + Flash 9 + the pretend upgrade makes web browsing smooth for the most part. For html5 I found I needed "Google Chrome Frame". I also installed proper nvidia card drivers.

Akita Beta 11 works great.

(Akita Beta 11 was tested on a Dell Optiplex GX1 with a 450mhz PIII and 128MB RAM)

[starhawk]

sc0ttman, I appear to have found a bug... or the laptop in question has quirky hardware in more places than I previously knew.

On my Dell CPi laptop (300MHz PII + 128 RAM + 384 swap) a full install works (Puplite5 did not), as does the NeoMagic gfx driver (first time this has happened -- kudos!)...

But sound does not.

ALSAWizard finds a card (3 letters then 4 digit number) which I suspect is really an ISA card, but it coughs up a lung trying to make it work. I can post more info if you need it, by way of screenshots.

Could you take a look at alsaconf and see if anything might be potentially screwing up in there?

Of note, this laptop does have a lot of hardware-based quirks. The aforementioned graphics card (pre-ATi/nVIDIA domination, apparently) is one, and the fact that the HDD is almost universally recognized as, of all things, a floppy disk is another. (The fact that previously I could only make graphics work with the generic Xorg driver --NeoMagic driver didn't work-- is yet another quirk.) So this audio thing may be a "new" quirk that I didn't know about before.

[Keef]

starhawk
Try reading this - especially post 11:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... ow-405490/
Looks like a bit of trial & error may be needed.

[starhawk]

That's actually rather helpful... okay, well, almost.

I've no idea how the dickens to go about finding what values I need. The card I have is different, I think -- IIRC it's a cms##42. Gotta double-check that, tho.

If someone could instruct a bonehead like me on how to get the values I need, I can do the modprobe bit to make everything (hopefully) work. I can see how to construct the statement, I just don't know what to put in to "fill in the blanks" so to speak.

[sc0ttman]

On my Dell CPi laptop (300MHz PII + 128 RAM + 384 swap) a full install works

Which method did you use to make the full install? I would really like to know which way worked for you...

But sound does not.

ALSAWizard finds a card (3 letters then 4 digit number) which I suspect is really an ISA card

For audio, see these links:

- http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46290
- http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45234
- http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dell_CPi_Laptop ... CPi+Laptop
- http://home.nedlinux.nl/~bart/?page=11

It doesn't look easy!

[starhawk]

I wiped out the previous install of Puplite5 using Gparted, then laid down a ~3.5gb ext3 partition and a 384mb linux-swap partition. Note that my "hard drive" in this case is a very fast CF card of 4gb size. Not much space to play with! (But that's OK.)

Then I ran the Puppy Universal Installer and told it to do a full install to an IDE or SATA hard drive.

The great thing about CF cards in IDE adapters is that Puppy can't tell on its own that the drive in question is a "poor man's SSD" -- Puppy relies on the user to tell the truth. By selecting "IDE/SATA Hard Drive" one can take advantage of this and do a full install on what is essentially a flash drive. The catch, of course, is that you can ONLY do this with a CF card, and ONLY with a CF->IDE adapter in between the card and the computer -- if it's not natively IDE, then the process errors out with "no devices found".

...BTW the same works for microdrives, which are really nifty in their own way. They're CF-sized hard drives, usually with a CF connector (although you can get ones with a ZIF connector that are even weirder).

Er... it's probably good to go into menu.lst after the fact and add the line pmedia=ataflash... but I didn't and it works anyways.

So that's how I did that.

As for sound, the third link (ALSAwiki) looks most promising. I will try that first, and we'll see how things go.

[starhawk]

Well, the 3rd link was useless. Puppy doesn't even HAVE an /etc/modprobe.d directory. At least, Akita doesn't.

So that won't work.

The method in the 2nd to last post in the 2nd link ALMOST works. ALSAMixer errors out, but if you pull up a terminal and type alsamixer -c 0 then THAT will work.

I think I need to create an alias somewhere, but I don't know how or what If someone can tell me how to make it known to the filesystem that there's a soundcard there, that would be nice.

...BTW, "Shutdown PC" and "Reboot PC" both reboot the system. Probably a pre-ACPI BIOS quirk. I can live with it, though.

[Tman]

Hi Scottman,

I decided to test out Akita 11 to see what new things you added...
On first boot Xorgwizard detected Vesa for my video, which I had to manually change to nv... no big deal for me.

I rather like Akita, but one thing about it that bothers me is that there are so many levels in the Menu.
It would be easier to navigate if there were less sub-menus to click through. Also, you've got a lot of pets that do similiar things .. eg. a lot of timers in the Personal Section. I would rather you keep the best 1 or 2 apps ... but that is just my preference. It's your pup, so do what you think is best.

To my surprise, I stumbled across Pupizzard package builder. Was this Iguleder's program, or did you modify it? I have modified one of Iguleder's builder package, which I got from Pemasu's Exprimo thread,
and it works great from the terminal ... I just have to do a few more tweaks to it, and then I want to make a font-end gui for it. I was wondering if you are interested in testing it, and maybe helping me with the gui? I attempted to make a simple front-end, but it seems that I am stuck...my frontend calls the terminal, so that you can see it compiling (good for troubleshooting as well), but the terminal dissappears partway through.

[technosaurus]

It would be easier to navigate if there were less sub-menus to click through. Also, you've got a lot of pets that do similiar things .. eg. a lot of timers in the Personal Section. I would rather you keep the best 1 or 2 apps ... but that is just my preference. It's your pup, so do what you think is best.

it is configurable to standard puppy style in $HOME/.jwm/JWMRC depending on what mods Scot has made to my jwm_tools. Or you can tweak jwm_menu_create directly. It makes sense that you would want less menus since you also want less programs. The extra submenus are convenient with a lot of programs.

[sc0ttman]

It would be easier to navigate if there were less sub-menus to click through. Also, you've got a lot of pets that do similiar things .. eg. a lot of timers in the Personal Section.

it is configurable to standard puppy style in $HOME/.jwm/JWMRC depending on what mods Scot has made to my jwm_tools.

Funnily enough, I removed a load of stuff from Akita recently, the next one will be about 2mb smaller, I think...
I also moved some .desktop files out of /usr/share/applications...
Menu is less cluttered, fewer apps pre-installed..

And I also upgraded my JWM setup a bit, to make JWM drive icons optional,
so I also made an easy toggle JWM submenus, through a menu entry.

(I made the JWM drive icons optional, using Toggle-Rox-Desktop)

Screenshot, 'Toggle JWM Submenus' menu entry, and 'Toggle ROX Desktop' dialog:

Tman, note that Puppizard already has a YAD GUI...
See the 'Puppizard' menu entry in screenshot above...

[sc0ttman]

Well, the 3rd link was useless. Puppy doesn't even HAVE an /etc/modprobe.d directory.

I think /etc/modprobe.conf is the equivalent in older kernels/pups...
Newer pups do have /etc/modprobe.d/ ..
...But someone else correct me if I am wrong.

[starhawk]

The method in the 2nd to last post in the 2nd link ALMOST works. ALSAMixer errors out, but if you pull up a terminal and type alsamixer -c 0 then THAT will work.

I think I need to create an alias somewhere, but I don't know how or what If someone can tell me how to make it known to the filesystem that there's a soundcard there, that would be nice.

An answer to this would be extraordinarily helpful

[Tman]

Tman, note that Puppizard already has a YAD GUI...
See the 'Puppizard' menu entry in screenshot above...

Yes, I was aware of Puppizard, but unfortunately, I didn't try it out until today ... I mean the one in Akita. Pemasu uploaded a different, but similiar set of tools -> here.
I was going to write all of my own build-scripts, but Iguleder's system is more efficient, so I have decided to modify his system instead. I will look at the YAD scripts and see if I can use some of the code as the frontend for my modified version.

Starhawk, I am not sure if this will work, but it won't take long to try:
Multiple_Soundcard_Wizard.pet

Try running the Multiple_Souncard_Wizard, then run alsaconf, then lastly: alsamixer.

[Tman]

it is configurable to standard puppy style in $HOME/.jwm/JWMRC depending on what mods Scot has made to my jwm_tools. Or you can tweak jwm_menu_create directly. It makes sense that you would want less menus since you also want less programs. The extra submenus are convenient with a lot of programs.

Thanks, technosaurus.

I am not in Akita at the moment, but menus, containing only a few items have their own submenu for example (if memory serves me correctly the section that contains the calculators doesn't really need a sub-menu for those items ... I am not sure if this is a bug, or if it was set that way in /etc/xdg/menus. There was a bug like this in older versions of lucid, and a solution for it as well... but it will take me some time to dig up that thread. I will analyze Akita some more when I have more time.

[starhawk]

Tman, I tried running the Multiple Soundcard Wizard a couple times. It's in Akita. It doesn't find anything at all.

ALSAwizard freezes partway through, while trying to initialize the driver -- even on a new install!

ALSAmixer works as described. It needs to be pointed in the right direction to find anything, which is why I was thinking an alias was in order.

[LoboGrande]

Downgraded to Flash 10 and everything in FF13 is now working fine! Even Facebook Chat is working. FF13 still takes longer to load than Chrome 7 but at least I can go to my Yahoo Mail account. Chrome 7 seems to run YouTube better but that's to be expected. I'm quite impressed by the old P3S Tualatin performance so far. Not much slower than my P4/478 w4gb ram for web browsing and according the the Watt meter it's drawing about 20 watts at idle and 50 when streaming audio and web surfing. My old Gateway P4 single core CPU never run XP anywhere near as fast as this machine is running Akita.

[sc0ttman]

Akita Linux BETA 12

- a mongrel: sfs3, kernel 2.6.25.16, wary 5.1.x compatible
- akita repo - http://akita.scottjarvis.com
- uses jwm, but many other WMs in the repo
- easily enable/disable rox icons, startups, etc
- no office, no cups, all in repo
- massive choice of web browsers in easy installer
- uses vlc and vlc-gtk for media player
- many apps i18n'd, lots of French, Spanish, Russian, German translations included
- includes many good console apps: elinks, doc2txt, mocp, mc,
- good for old clunkers, craptops, etc

Download: http://akita.scottjarvis.com/akita-linux-beta12.iso,
size: 89mb, md5: 4e5610e26df720a9411af2a05debc76c

Devx, for compiling: http://akita.scottjarvis.com/akita_devx-b11.sfs
md5: 68fe4a15228f9cc41ff8cd553e90f3a5, 111MB, sfs3
(Right-click and choose 'SFS Loader' to load/install it)

Summary of updates

- Live CD uses graphical grub boot menu
- 3mb smaller, useless stuff, extra apps removed
- VLC-GTK improved further
- updated and improved keyboard settings and hotkeys
- easily toggle sub menus in JWM menu
- easily enable or disable JWM drive icons
- updated gtkdialog, more stuff in repo


Changelog

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Sept 8
	- fixed: removed browserlibs, mame tools leftovers, orbit and gconf
	- fixed: added fontconfig symlinks into /usr/lib of the mainfs
	- fixed: re-installed xrender stuff in /usr/X11R7/
	
Sept 9
	- added to Akita repo:
			- dbus-glib_DEV
			- gconf-dbus
			- gconf-dbus_DEV

Sept 10:
	- fixed: simpler keyboard settings.. see ~/.Xmodmap, ~/.jwm/jwmrc_extra, ~/.mrxvtrc
		- Windows keys: now load Akita menus
		- Print Screen key: now takes snapshot of screen
		- Power key: (keycode 222 on mine) now runs akita_shutdown
		- JWM hotkeys: simpler, use Alt+* for JWM actions, or Ctrl+Alt+* / Ctrl+Func* for loading apps
		- mrxvt keybindings: simpler, more familiar, now same as browsers
				- Ctrl+t					new tab
				- Ctrl+w					close tab
				- Ctrl+tab				next tab
				- Ctrl+shift+tab		next tab
				- Ctrl+v					paste
				- etc

Sept 11
	- updated available wallpapers
	- updated to VLC-GTK 2.4.9: fixed immediate playback of `vlc-gtk [file/dir/url/rtmpdump]`
			- update: always playback immediately if 1st CLI option is a file/dir/url/rtmpdump
			- fix: the cmd `vlc-gtk [URL]` will now play URL immediately
			- fix: the cmd `vlc-gtk [rtmpdump cmd]` will now playback cmd immediately
			- fix: do not ignore other CLI options if playback is immediate
	- added /usr/sbin/pastengo: performs actions on clipboard contents, 
	- added JWM keybindings for pastengo:
		- Ctrl-Alt+g: will google the clipboard contents
		- Ctrl-Alt+u: will search the puppy search engine for the clipboard contents
		- Ctrl-Alt+v: will run appropriate action on clipboard contents, based on dir, url, filetype, cmd, etc
			
Sept 12
	- updated /usr/bin/akita_setup: new 'Hotkeys' tab, showing all default JWM and Mrxvt keybindings
	- updated ptiming and pschedule to latest
	- removed unused programs/packages: 
			- 	c1541, jamvm, uget-gtk, getez, puppyphone, bluefish, wxbasic, puppybasic, gtkbasic, muppy*,  
				rgbpaint, treesize, fbxkb, gstpw, ptmtimer, ptimer, pcountdown, lslalarm, lsalarm-manager, 
			
Sept 13
	- more JWM keybinding fixes, updates to info in akita_setup
	- updated to gtkdialog r422
	
Sept 14
	- updated to gtkdialog r428
	- added to Akita repo and PPM:
		vte-0.28.2-w5c: advanced terminal libs, BuildingBlock 356K
		vte_DEV-0.28.2-w5c: advanced terminal libs, BuildingBlock +vte 356K
		screen-4.0.3-w5c: console based window manager, Desktop 379K
		screen_DOC-4.0.3-w5c: console based window manager, Desktop +screen 114K
		thunar-1.0.2-1-w5: great file manager, Filesystem 425K
		bluefish-2.0.2-w5: HTML editor, Document 2000K
		bluefish_NLS-2.0.2-w5: HTML editor, Document +bluefish 746K
		bluefish_DOC-2.0.2-w5: HTML editor, Document +bluefish 6K
		puppyphone-1.2-psip32-1-w5: SIP client, online phone calls, Internet 697K
		groovejaar1.0.22.5: grooveshark frontend and downloader, Multimedia +jre 1300K
		virtualbox-4.1.22_base: virtualisation, run other operating systems, System +vboxdrv 28000K
		vboxdrv-4.1.22-k2.6.25.16.pup4: kernel modules needed by Virtualbox, System +virtualbox 124K
		gpm_DOC-1.20.6-i486: enables a mouse cursor on the console, BuildingBlock +gpm 40K
		gpm_DEV-1.20.6-i486: enables a mouse cursor on the console, BuildingBlock +gpm 32K
		gpm-1.20.6-i486: enables a mouse cursor on the console, BuildingBlock 101K
		dbus-1.2.4.2permissive-1-w5: system library, BuildingBlock 288K
		dbus_DEV-1.2.4.2permissive-1-w5: system library, BuildingBlock 499K

Sept 15:
	- updated to guess_fs-20120911, smaller, faster, with ext4 and btrfs
	- updated to gtkdialog rev433, fixes tall table entries
	- fixed /usr/sbin/script_grepper: faster, searches inside all shell scripts in $PATH for $1, optionally replace $1 with $2
	
Sept 16
	- added Transcoder 0.0.6, a video coder, in Menu->Multimedia

Sept 18
	- fixed: retain desktop settings in: ~/.xinitrc, /usr/sbin/toggle-rox-desktop
	- fixed: update_jwm_drives func in /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d
	- fixes in xbindkeys, removed uneeded stuff, updated menu entries
	- fixes, menu cleanup: some apps removed from menu
	- updated gtkdialog to r444
	- updated Toggle ROX Desktop: can now also enable/disable JWM drive icons
	- updated JWMCfgManager: added button for Toggle Rox Desktop
	- added 'upload to imgur.com' ROX right click options for all images
	- added: easy toggle JWM submenus, just go to Menu->System->Toggle JWM Submenus
			- added: new jwm rcfile ~/.jwm/JWMCONFIG
			- added: /usr/bin/jwm_toggle_submenus, toggle $SUBMENU (true or false) in ~/.jwm/JWMCONFIG
			- updated: /usr/bin/jwm_menu_create: reads SUBMENU from rcfile
			- updated: /usr/sbin/fixmenus: remove SUBMENU=0
			
- Sept 19
	- removed uneeded splash grub image
	- update to ISO: uses grub4dos graphical menus
			- added to cd /gfxfile  (cpio archive)
			- updated menu.lst to use file above
			- removed old xpm splash image

[Tman]

ALSAmixer works as described. It needs to be pointed in the right direction to find anything, which is why I was thinking an alias was in order.

Sorry, I have a bad habit of skimming through thread entries, and responding before properly digesting all of the information.

I don't think you need an alias. If the soundcard works for you with those alsamixer settings, then:
just edit alsamixer.desktop and change the exec option to rxvt -e alsamixer -c 0

You will also need to refresh the JWM menus for the settings to take effect.