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Lobster
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Jun 2011, 05:06    Post subject:  

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Linux Puppy that is more secure like I do on my Mac and in Ubuntu?

Smile welcome to the kennels
Secure from who or what?

Our most dangerous adversary is our own ignorance.
Both Mac and Ubuntu are keen to keep that status secure.

If Puppy is run from CD, none of the programs can be modified.
So running from a live DVD is fast and secure enough, just turn on the firewall
if you don't have one in your router - or even if you do . . .

Now what are the threats you are insecure about?
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/security

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ICPUG

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Jun 2011, 07:59    Post subject:  

Thank you DPUP5520 for the link and increasing my knowledge.

I look at Task Manager every day and it never stuck me that SYSTEM was an actual account that you could get into.

My task Manager also lists the following users:
wininstall_service
LOCAL SERVICE
NETWORK SERVICE

I wonder why there has to be these specialist users when SYSTEM exists ... As you answer one query more questions arise ...

Anyway - let's get this thread back on topic. Thanks once again for the info.
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Jun 2011, 08:12    Post subject:  

Lobster - your comment is the sort that the 'don't run as root' brigade lap up to label us as idiots.

While I do not have much fear from using Puppy specifically. The types of threat constantly evolve and are there.

I do not worry too much about viruses, trojans etc.

However, I do worry about drive by attacks that use browser capabilities to to determine personal info that might be useful to the ne'er-do-wells. Such info may be available in the pupsave file or even in the current session somewhere. I don't know - I am not that much of a cracker - but I don't close my eyes to it. Of course running non-root will not save you from this, neither will running Ubuntu, Windows or anything else.

Our most dangerous adversary is not our ignorance but ourselves, if we are shut our eyes to the possibilities.
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Jun 2011, 08:16    Post subject:  

ICPUG wrote:
Anyway - let's get this thread back on topic.


Don't bother.

The OP didn't come back to this topic to show any interest or make it even possible to answer his question as it is worded.

I think you all should go right on talking about whatever interests you. If the OP comes back and shows interest and is willing to answer questions, then the topic can shift back on its own dynamic.

After a day or two I might give it a title appropriate to the actual content.

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Jun 2011, 13:00    Post subject:  

ICPUG I don't know much about the "Local Service" and "Network Service" accounts only that they are accounts specifically for controlling a limited set of obviously network and local services, as for "wininstall_service" If I remember correctly is the account that controls the Windows installer and can install custom services on the machine but I'm not quite sure about that one.
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