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[bark_bark_bark]

Wiped my Windows 8.1 partition and installed Korora 23 KDE 64-bit.

[James C]

Remix os for pc, posting from Opera cause Firefox keeps crashing.....

[Colonel Panic]

I've just downloaded the latest version of OpenSUSE Edu-Life (42.1.1), and am posting from the live disk now. So far everything works fine but it is a big download (3.7 GB) and, if past experience is any guide, an installation will take you well over 10 GB of space (I'll soon find out how much).

If you want OpenSUSE though, IMO this is the one to get; all the multimedia codecs are included and they work.

[EDIT: I've now installed it and it comes in at just under 13 GB.]

[James C]

Too busy for much distro hopping lately but here's another oldie but goodie..

https://www.mageia.org/en/

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[james@localhost ~]$ inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: localhost Kernel: 4.1.15-desktop-2.mga5 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.9.2) 
           Desktop: KDE 4.14.5 (Qt 4.8.6) dm: kdm Distro: Mageia 5 thornicroft 
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M2N68-AM Plus v: Rev X.0x
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 1003 date: 12/07/2009
CPU:       Quad core AMD Athlon II X4 620 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips: 20893 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2611 MHz 2: 2611 MHz 3: 2611 MHz 4: 2611 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: nvidia,v4l
           Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2
           GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.96 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:05.0 chip-ID: 10de:03f0 
           Card-2 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 02:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.1.15-desktop-2.mga5
Network:   Card: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet
           driver: forcedeth port: d480 bus-ID: 00:07.0 chip-ID: 10de:03ef
           IF: enp0s7 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full 
           mac: e0:cb:4e:f6:fb:a4
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 2000.4GB (0.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: WD-WCC3FE1X1V9X
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST1000DL002 size: 1000.2GB serial: W1V0FWA6
Partition: ID-1: / size: 38G used: 4.7G (13%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 6.40GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5 
RAID:      System: supported: N/A
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.0C mobo: 27.0C gpu: 0.0:38C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 3409 sys-1: 1333 
Info:      Processes: 159 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 776.7/3953.6MB 
           Init: systemd v: 217 runlevel: 5 default: runlevel5.target 
           Gcc sys: N/A 
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.331 running in konsole) inxi: 2.1.96 

[Billtoo]

I haven't used this one lately but:

I moved my Wmlive 16gb SDHC card install from my Acer
laptop to my hp desktop and updated it.
I switched to XFCE4, then setup the panel.
Operating System Debian GNU/Linux 8.4
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Wed 30 Mar 2016 12:10:36 PM EDT
Resolution 3200x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Kernel Linux 4.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 (x86_64)
Desktop Environment XFCE 4

Works great.

[bark_bark_bark]

I've been using Korora for less than a week and I keep on having constant issues I've never had with Windows or other linux distros I've used. Hopefully this install won't completely kill itself before Slackware 14.2 gets released.

All the people that said Korora was stable apparently lied, unless constant app crashes and hanging are now what define stability.

[Billtoo]

Installed Slackware 14.2 rc1 64 bit to an Acer desktop pc.
Added all the updates with slackpkg.
Added some applications and configured the panels.

It's working well so far.

Edit: I did another install of 14.2 rc1 to my Acer laptop.
I did SlackBuilds of icewm,grun,hardinfo,rox-filer, and added some
other applications.
I found extra icewm themes on the web.

It's working well so far.

[Keisha]

All the people that said Korora was stable apparently lied, unless constant app crashes and hanging are now what define stability.

That would be moi.

I've been using Korora-22/23 for more than a year now. Only two apps have ever crashed in all that time.

The version of MousePad supplied in Korora 23 has a memory leak. But that's easily remedied by downgrading mousepad or, even better, making mousepad be a symlink to geany, which is a better editor anyway. It's really an xfce4 problem, not a Korora/Fedora problem.

And I tried transplanting-in the 2014 version of rox-filer, the one which actually obeys its own Quiet switch. That rox works great when started as a normal user but crashes every time when started as root after I open 3-4 windows of it. Reverting to version 2.11, compiled from source via AppRun --compile, fixed that problem. If I need to copy using a Quiet mode I switch to Thunar. I have "Open here as root" and "Open here as <user>" entries for both Rox-Filer and Thunar, in the right-click options of both Rox and Thunar as well as on xfce4-panel's Panel 2. This makes life very much easier when using a true multi-user OS.

Unlike Debian Jessie, there is a version of infinality fonting available for Fedora/Korora 23. It looks splendid. Debian Jessie has dependency-version mismatches which make compiling infinality versions of freetype, fontconfig, and cairo impossible unless you violate the Debian dependency version demands.

The fglrx amd vidcard driver (catalyst, which they are now calling Crimson) also installs and works flawlessly after one patch is applied.

Kernel upgrading is easy. I'm on 4.4.6 at the moment. The recent security update to glibc went off without a hitch. The associated updates to all programs which have dependency on glibc, happened in a very timely manner.

The dnf/yum/rpm package management system works better than synaptic/apt/aptitude. And making a package with rpmbuild is easier than the arcane Debian system.

Virtually none of the myriad problems afflicting DebianDog and or recent Puppy/Quirkies afflict Korora. Including DebianDog's nasty habit of rendering the host drive to need e2fsck'ing after every session from openbox's wnck and obrender error mis-writes. Unlike in Debian, Openbox in Fedora/Korora is compiled correctly. Now if only it had the pre-version-3.5.0.9 smart window placement.

All in all, the use of Korora has freed me from the extremely time-consuming need to be an unpaid volunteer OS developer just to use an elegant high-end 64-bit OS. Even such messy apps as simplescreenrecorder, and kde apps like digikam, okular, and krusader, work flawlessly in Korora 23.

I will say, though, that moving to a true multi-user OS has been a steep learning curve. But my experience with Puppy/Quirky/DebianDog was a good preparatory course.

And an always-runs-as-root OS such as P/Q/DD is still a useful tool for doing system maintenance chores, e.g. for preparing a kickstarter install so as to clone my Korora installation.

On the downside...my present Korora install occupies 18 GB.

But...if it could be slimmed down to the same level of svelteness as DebianDog, provided the main filesystem were squashed-up into a Pup or Dog form...a KororaDog would be the best thing since sliced silicon, IMHO.

It might not be the adorable Samantha OS from the 2013 movie Her, but for a standard windows-icons-mouse-pointer OS it's plenty good enough!

[nitehawk]

Hmmm,..
Korora actually sounds interesting. I installed Stella recently (using it right now),...and pretty well like it. I have Debian on this hard drive as well,...and wanted to try one of the Red Hat family distros with it.

I usually use Slackware,...but wanted to change to a couple of the "biggies" like pure Debian and Red Hat. That takes too much fooling around for me right now, to set up a desktop just like I like it,...

So I just went with MX-15,...and Stella (then "fleshed it out" with apps I like). Might just have a look at Korora as well.

[Keisha]

Hmmm,..Korora actually sounds interesting...

I installed one user with Administrator privileges as a member of the wheel group. That way I can use Thunar or ROX-Filer to open and look at any hard drive partition. Then if I want to write to them I can switch to Thunar or ROX as root and diddle away. Since this computer is a desktop in a reasonably secure location I didn't bother to install any less privileged user but of course you could.

If you learn how to use the kickstart cloning facility, it would be easy to duplicate my installation. It would require you to use kickstart (see
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fe ... boot-media
and
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fe ... stall.html
to install Korora-23 using my anaconda-ks.cfg configuration file, and then add the same packages as I have using my packages and yum.repos.d.tgz files. Then install ROX-Filer 2.11. Then install infinality and, optionally, fglrx. Then all it would need is to add-in the Open-With-as-<user>-<root>-Here right-click and panel menu items, and then the conky, compton, cairo-clock, and gkrellm start and config files, plus my customized Openbox theme. Finally, you have to tweak Thunar so you have an actual working Trash facility and folder as root. And then you would have this extremely sweet installation I've enjoyed for this past year.

Then if someone can Puppify or Dogify it we'll have a world-beater.

If you already know Fedora or Korora and kickstart, and you know how to do a live conversion for Fedora a la DebianDog, and you want to collaborate with me on this goal,...I don't have a lot of free time to spend on bringing a novice up to speed. But if you already have these prerequisites, then feel free to pm me. I really do believe that this would be the best possible FedoraDog for the Puppy community (unless someone can persuade Openbox to do smart window opening placement the way it did before the development gods loused it up in version 3.5.0.9... --even the way that jwm in TahrPup64-605CE does window opening placement would be an improvement)

[Colonel Panic]

I was intrigued by the above and used to like Korora 19, so I thought I'd try Korora again.

I'm posting from Korora (for Mate) 23 now and so far so good, no crashes as yet. I can't use Flash with Firefox in Korora though, so have to watch videos in Chromium (which I had to install using dnf), so it's a bit more limited than what I'm used to.

[Keisha]

...I can't use Flash with Firefox in Korora...

The pepperflash rpm for Fedora 22 works. In Firefox go to

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=3& ... pper-flash

and pick one suitable to your computer's architecture (e.g., either x86_64 or i686). Download it to ~/Downloads, click the download arrow to the right of the url bar, left-click the rpm to highlight, right-click and slide down to Open Containing Folder to open the download folder in Thunar, right-click the rpm, Open With Yumex Package Installer, follow the prompts.

Or, more directly, in a terminal, for example,

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yumex-dnf install --allowerasing ~/Downloads/chromium-pepper-flash-17.0.0.134-1.fc22.x86_64.rpm

[Colonel Panic]

...I can't use Flash with Firefox in Korora...

The pepperflash rpm for Fedora 22 works. In Firefox go to

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3?stat=3& ... pper-flash

and pick one suitable to your computer's architecture (e.g., either x86_64 or i686). Download it to ~/Downloads, click the download arrow to the right of the url bar, left-click the rpm to highlight, right-click and slide down to Open Containing Folder to open the download folder in Thunar, right-click the rpm, Open With Yumex Package Installer, follow the prompts.

Or, more directly, in a terminal, for example,

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yumex-dnf install --allowerasing ~/Downloads/chromium-pepper-flash-17.0.0.134-1.fc22.x86_64.rpm

Thanks, I'll try that.

[Colonel Panic]

Hmmm,..
Korora actually sounds interesting. I installed Stella recently (using it right now),...and pretty well like it. I have Debian on this hard drive as well,...and wanted to try one of the Red Hat family distros with it.

I usually use Slackware,...but wanted to change to a couple of the "biggies" like pure Debian and Red Hat. That takes too much fooling around for me right now, to set up a desktop just like I like it,...

So I just went with MX-15,...and Stella (then "fleshed it out" with apps I like). Might just have a look at Korora as well.

Good to see you posting here again Nitie. Stella's great, one of my favourite distros.

[Moat]

Porteus-v3.1 Mate - Blistering fast and CPU efficient running from RAM, very nicely fleshed-out and complete Mate desktop, Firefox ESR is a little old OOTB (31.3.0) but it's updater appears to work, Abiword is (the apparently buggy) v3.0.0.

Hmm... I might install this to a flash drive and run with it for a while. With a little bit of polish, could be greatness. Will have to mess around with installing packages, though - from what I've read, if it may be somewhat "hit-or-miss" in that regard.

Really, really nice.

(edit to add - FF's updater ended up failing, after all - possibly because I'm running in RAM without savefile...)

Bob

[Daleb]

Can Porteus RAM be re-mastered?

[mcewanw]

But...if it could be slimmed down to the same level of svelteness as DebianDog, provided the main filesystem were squashed-up into a Pup or Dog form...a KororaDog would be the best thing since sliced silicon, IMHO.

That would be a nice addition to the Dog family, for sure. In the polytech community, in my part of the world at least, Linux is taught from the perspective of Red Hat Certification qualifications. Having been used to teaching in that area, I understand the importance of being able to provide students with a nice Fedora-based puppy-like but multi-user capable dog, since easy to take home on a usb stick and expand with full Fedora like package management/admin utilities and so on. Wonderful indeed, and a missing part of the jigsaw in terms of Linux education. Of course, some may scorn Red Hat as an almost 'commercial' Linux, but reality is that, in terms of finding employment in Linux development work, RedHat is a distribution of choice.

Now if only we could get Toni (saintless) and Fred to become curious enough about Fedora to get to grips with making a dog out of a good, preferably official, version of it... of course, it is not Debian, so would need a lot of Fedora expertise, but I expect many of the Debian/Puppy/Porteus-related 'live system' creation knowledge would be very relevant to the creation of such a FedoraDog.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraLiveCD

William

[Keisha]

...Wonderful indeed,...

Yeah...quite a giant missing puzzle piece isn't it .

A Puppified Fedora Live, bootable from a usb stick, would provide long-lived (practically eternal) persistence, and the ability to transfer an already set up system to a fresh machine regardless of whether the package manager knows about every executeable file and library on it or not. Neither installation CD nor anaconda nor kickstart would be needed. Just copy-in, fiddle a grub stanza, and go.

I wonder what kind of cookies Fedora guru's like?

I know just enough about Fedora to be dangerous. I do see that the kickstart creation gui does provide for the building of a minimal install using xfce. A minimal spin of xfce (or lxqt), and a kernel patched to support aufs, would be the starting point. The guru's next challenge then would be to adapt Puppy's or DebianDog's init scripts, bus conventions, and shutdown scripts to the Fedora architecture.

If the real Linus Torvalds is reading this: I live near Seattle, only two hours north of you, and would be delighted to drive down and spend an hour or two showing you both Puppy (and BarryK's newer masterpiece, Quirky) and DebianDog as well as my nifty installation of Korora-xfce.

If you can assign one of your bright lieutenants to this, many Puppy enthusiasts and Red Hat Linux educators would be grateful.

[James C]

Just installed the latest Knoppix to a 32 gb usb stick. No problems with UEFI/secure boot, just have secure boot toggled off and everything boots.

4 gb download but it has everything.

http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

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knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: Microknoppix Kernel: 4.2.6-64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.2.1)
           Desktop: Gnome 3.18.3 (Gtk 3.18.6) dm: kdm
           Distro: Debian GNU/Linux stretch/sid
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 2202 date: 12/12/2013
CPU:       Octa core AMD FX-8320 Eight-Core (-MCP-) cache: 16384 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 56206
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 3500 MHz 2: 1400 MHz
           3: 1400 MHz 4: 1400 MHz 5: 1400 MHz 6: 1700 MHz 7: 1400 MHz
           8: 1700 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce GTX 750]
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1381
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV117
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.0.8 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA Device 0fbc
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fbc
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.2.6-64
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 40:16:7e:b2:b8:be
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1151.6GB (0.7% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB serial: 50026B77470C2711 temp: 23C
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: WD-WCC3F3102052 temp: 24C
           ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: Cruzer size: 31.4GB serial: 20052845211B0DE0D9BE-0:0 temp: 0C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 7.7G used: 48K (1%) fs: rootfs dev: N/A
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.29GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 13.1C mobo: N/A gpu: 25.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info:      Processes: 188 Uptime: 11 min Memory: 329.2/15958.8MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: 5.3.1
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.421 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.28 

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knoppix@Microknoppix:~$ free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:       16341848      224800    15269536       20980      847512    15991892
Swap:       4194300           0     4194300

[James C]

Just got Manjaro-Open RC installed,working good but have done zero tweaking so far.

https://manjaro.github.io/

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[james@manjaro ~]$ inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: manjaro Kernel: 4.1.15-1-MANJARO x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.3.0)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.28) dm: lightdm
           Distro: ManjaroLinux 15.12 Capella
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42157
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 2000 MHz 2: 2000 MHz
           3: 1400 MHz 4: 2000 MHz 5: 1400 MHz 6: 1400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.Org 1.17.4 driver: nouveau
           Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.1.0 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.1.15-1-MANJARO
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8168 v: 8.040.00-NAPI port: d000
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (1.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB serial: 50026B7256076A16
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: WD-WCC3F6XAKRLY
Partition: ID-1: / size: 34G used: 2.5G (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb11
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 178 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 524.6/15955.1MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 rc: OpenRC v: 0.19.1 runlevel: default default: 3
           Gcc sys: 5.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.421 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.2.31 

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[james@manjaro ~]$ free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:          15955         489       15146          13         319       15382
Swap:          8199           0        8199