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Stripe

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2011, 15:30    Post subject:  

@ colonel panic

the mint 10 she is using is ubuntu based (the debian version would not install due to it trying to use the neuveau driver with nvidia graphics Laughing )

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2011, 18:22    Post subject:  

Stripe, I can be totally wrong but as I remember.
The Dev of Linux Mint had changed so many things
even as early as Mint 5 or at least with Mint7 that the
Ubuntu folks did see it as something them did not
want to be connected with. There was a lot of complaint
as I remember.

But Mint 10 or was it 11? was based on Debian or did he go back
to Ubuntu after 9 or 10? I would not say it is Ubuntu anymore.
It started out like that but then change so many things that it is
not ubuntu based anymore? No criticism I just try to get the history
but my poor memory can have missed something.

My 80 year old neighbor liked Mint over both Ubuntu and Puppy.

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2011, 18:31    Post subject:  

Stripe and Nooby, thanks for replying.

There are at least two different versions of Mint, but they're all derived from one of two branches and have different desktop environments (KDE, Gnome, XFce or LXDE). The standard Mint is based on Ubuntu and that's very stable and well-polished but quite demanding of resources. (I'm posting from it now.) The other one, Mint Debian, is based on Debian and is lighter on resources but rougher round the edges (as its devs admit).

Sadly I found I couldn't update or install very much with it, so I gave up. It may have got better since (my version was version 10).

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2011, 18:42    Post subject:  

Thanks Colonel Panic ah we where both right then. Both exists.
I only remembered the one that tried out Debian. But if I am right then both of them use Grub2 and none use grub legacy or grub4dos.

one have to go back to Mint 7 or something? and even then it don't boot frugally?

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2011, 19:08    Post subject:  

tikbalang wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:


Austrumi is also a nice distro, if you can figure out how to get the menus in English (the distro comes from Latvia).




taken from "/austrumi/message.msg" (or press F1 if booting from CD):


Code:


      lang_XX      where XX - locale (el, en, es, fr, hu, it, lv, ltg, pt_br, ru, uk)




here it is in my grub4dos menu.lst:

Code:


title Austrumi
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /austrumi/austrumi.lst
kernel /austrumi/bzImage dousb lang_en
initrd /austrumi/initrd.gz



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Thanks for the info, I'll try that the next time I'm using Austrumi.

Best wishes,

CP .

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PostPosted: Tue 06 Sep 2011, 19:10    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
Thanks Colonel Panic ah we where both right then. Both exists.
I only remembered the one that tried out Debian. But if I am right then both of them use Grub2 and none use grub legacy or grub4dos.

one have to go back to Mint 7 or something? and even then it don't boot frugally?


Maybe. I used Mint 5 and it was OK, even in 256 MB of RAM. The problem with it was that it was two years out of date at the time and therefore the repositories for it weren't accessible.

If you're willing to keep to the software it comes with you should be fine.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2011, 08:07    Post subject: Unity or Granular linux  

Anyone tried Unity linux ? http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06872

or Granular that is based on it ? http://www.granularlinux.com/index.php?action=home ?
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Sep 2011, 17:45    Post subject: Other distros  

unity last not boot
Granular 1.0 is pclos remastered
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Sep 2011, 10:26    Post subject: Re: Unity or Granular linux  

einar wrote:
Anyone tried Unity linux ? http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06872

or Granular that is based on it ? http://www.granularlinux.com/index.php?action=home ?

I just read upon Unity and here's a quote "Unity will only be released in a cli only version (command line interface) from this point on." the latest release was around the same size as Upup, but its only cli, Kind of really only for advanced users that can build gtk and then all the other needed apps.

And Granular is 700MB iso that hasn't been updated since 2009

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Sep 2011, 13:00    Post subject:  

I've just downloaded and tried Archbang. It looks quite impressive and runs well in limited hardware except that so far I haven't been able to get sound working on it for Youtube videos etc.
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Sep 2011, 13:59    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
I've just downloaded and tried Archbang. It looks quite impressive and runs well in limited hardware except that so far I haven't been able to get sound working on it for Youtube videos etc.


I trust you did a full install on a partition for linux or on a USB Flash or your tested in a VBox or something?
Archbang don't install frugally on ntfs does it?

You could have told us if them used isolinux or grub4dos or grub2 Smile

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PostPosted: Thu 08 Sep 2011, 15:42    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
I've just downloaded and tried Archbang. It looks quite impressive and runs well in limited hardware except that so far I haven't been able to get sound working on it for Youtube videos etc.


Yes, Archbang of course is a good choice for limited hardware but its a pain in the a** for a "notsoexpieriencedlinuxnoob" and the package managment and all sort of configuration is command line interface only. If one can handle that, great fun.
I prefere Crunchbang Linux which is
- somewhat similar in looks and resources
- Debian based and therefore rocksolid and stable
- not on the cutting bleeding edge on software (oh, you can be on top of the state by apt-pinning but be warned. that can go Crunch Bang!! Laughing )
- the first and still the best (for me) of all bangs
and at least it works straight OOTB

oh, not to forget the great community... give it a try

HP: http://crunchbanglinux.org/
Forum: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/

@nooby
no, no one has ever tried to install CB in a frugal way on ntfs Wink
Why should one? I am sure a high percentage of linux (or whatever kind of OS) users didn't even heard of frugal. They, just like me install the OS on the first HD and configure the Bootloader (may it be the Windoze one or Grub or Lilo or Grub2) to boot another OS. My Puppys are all installed in frugal on sda2 but my mainOS lives full installed on sda1...
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2011, 03:54    Post subject:  

lowrider wrote:
no, no one has ever tried to install CB in a frugal way on ntfs Wink
Why should one?


lowrider, yes why should one? Because one can? Because one want to due to less work less complications when it do work? Because it is elegant, or just cool. Why should one not want to? I've done it with many others so why not ArchBang? are them that high brow or elite to not want to be frugal? Friendly teasing. Them want to be unique and special only for the "Linux Expert" ?

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2011, 04:00    Post subject:  

lowrider wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
I've just downloaded and tried Archbang. It looks quite impressive and runs well in limited hardware except that so far I haven't been able to get sound working on it for Youtube videos etc.


Yes, Archbang of course is a good choice for limited hardware but its a pain in the a** for a "notsoexpieriencedlinuxnoob" and the package managment and all sort of configuration is command line interface only. If one can handle that, great fun.
I prefere Crunchbang Linux which is
- somewhat similar in looks and resources
- Debian based and therefore rocksolid and stable
- not on the cutting bleeding edge on software (oh, you can be on top of the state by apt-pinning but be warned. that can go Crunch Bang!! Laughing )
- the first and still the best (for me) of all bangs
and at least it works straight OOTB

oh, not to forget the great community... give it a try

HP: http://crunchbanglinux.org/
Forum: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/


Thanks. I've long wanted to try Arch but was put off by the very snooty user forums, and ArchBang's are a lot friendlier. You can use the Arch package manager, pacman, in ArchBang just as you can in Arch. I haven't installed it yet though (in fact I'm posting from Puppy 4.00).

Maybe after several years of using Linux it's time I got more used to the command line, though I already do some basic stuff like unzipping, untarring and compiling source packages.

If you've got a really old computer, ConnochaetOS is also based on Arch and uses the Arch package manager. It's more limited than ArchBang though, to run in 64 MB of RAM (for example, it doesn't yet have Osmo although the dev told me he was looking into compiling it).

I've tried CrunchBang but I didn't get a good ISO from it. The only way to download it is from bit torrents and if you're not careful those can restart once the download has finished and overwrite the new iso (yes, it happened to me Smile). Pity, because it's got a good rep.

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PostPosted: Fri 09 Sep 2011, 04:56    Post subject:  

Sorry if I am a PITA but this ConnochaetOS can them boot frugally then?
I visited their forum and seems none else mention frugal?

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