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bark_bark_bark

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jun 2013, 09:42    Post subject:  
i couldn't get flash player to install. You may need to grab it manually.
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Ibidem

Joined: 25 May 2010
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Jun 2013, 01:24    Post subject:  
simargl wrote:
musher0 wrote:
It was a real consolation Smile to see how lazy the Debian Live developers had been in categorizing the menu items -- as compared to the "logic" and effort that we invest in the creation of our own Puppy menus. An example of that sloppy menu can be found at http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=709758&sort=lastpost#709758

I never understood why they need to add those "applications" at all - or actually why someone even bothered to make them. Xeyes for example is a program with 2 circles that move around following mouse pointer - so what's use of that, just wasting space and cluttering the menu. And, please don't say Puppy's menu is more logical Rolling Eyes, and what size are menu icons in Puppy, 8 pixels I think, so that can also be called lazy Wink

Debian autogenerates the menus (by way of a program called "menu") from files that each package installs, so the package maintainer gets to say whether to have an entry.
Of course, a maintainer is likely the last person to recognize that their pet program is a waste of menu-space.

xeyes, etc. are part of the original X11 applications (x11-apps), mainly available because of tradition ("use xyz, it's always available" & "keep xyz available, it's widely used").
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01micko


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PostPosted: Sat 29 Jun 2013, 09:37    Post subject:  
xeyes is a bit of fun...

My grandson loves the sugar implementation on the XO (olpc) laptops.

BTW you can get Sugar on a Stick (soas) on any PC, only ~500MB download, great for kids.

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Of course you can have some fun in JWM with xeyes too, even on a raspberry pi..
Code:
      <Swallow name="xeyes" width="32">
         xeyes -bg "#ffffff" -fg red
      </Swallow>

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Colonel Panic


Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Sun 30 Jun 2013, 04:28    Post subject:  
James C wrote:
Another new 'buntu spin...... Australis. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS w/ Mate and all sort of goodies.
http://rackingman.wix.com/australis

Code:
linux@linux:~$ uname -r
3.5.0-27-generic
linux@linux:~$


That looks cool!
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nitehawk


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jul 2013, 17:21    Post subject:  
I recently decided to switch from Slackware (and Slackware-based distros) to just basic Debian. I didn't want to do Debian itself,...(too hard for someone still on dialup, having to download a net-install). And I for SURE didn't want to have to buy all 10 (I think it is now) DVDs.

So I have re-discovered CrunchBang. I've gotten quite hooked on the Openbox desktop,....and the fact that it is basically just Debian. In all fair-ness,...I haven't tired the latest Antix yet (which I may like as well).

I missed the late DreamLinux,...but these two smaller Debian-based distros seem really very nice!
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 04:09    Post subject:  
Grabbed one of my old P3's off the shelf...... don't even remember when I installed this.
http://bodhilinux.com/
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drongo


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 15:11    Post subject: Reply to michaellowe  
Hi,

All the other Puppies are compiled for x86 or 64 bit variants. Only something specifically for ARM will run on a Raspberry Pi.

Barry had recently started work again on an ARM Puppy for the Pi but he seems to be working on more fundamental infrastructure stuff at the moment.

So I guess we'll have to wait.

Sorry.
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James C


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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jul 2013, 23:32    Post subject:  
Fedora 19 XFCE released today.
http://fedoraproject.org/
and
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2013-July/003167.html

Been using Puppy too long...... the first thing I installed was SeaMonkey. Smile
Comes with Midori and I don't really like Midori so.......
Trying to decide between XFCE and MATE.Looks like some testing is in order.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Wed 03 Jul 2013, 01:20    Post subject: Other Distros  
I installed Fedora 19 KDE 64 bit to an external usb 3.0 hard drive on
an hp desktop pc.
I've been using Clementine on my PclinuxOS FullMonty64 and like it,
works good on Fedora 19 too.
Fedora 19 is working nice, there are so many distros to choose from Smile

EDIT:I installed Fedora 19 on an Acer desktop:
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Memory 5975MB (1421MB used)
Operating System Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat)
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Thu 04 Jul 2013 10:01:32 AM EDT
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop
X11 Vendor Fedora Project
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID

After using this for a day and learning a little more about it I'd say
that Fedora 19 is a keeper Smile
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jul 2013, 12:31    Post subject:  
Some good distros here, but I note that Billtoo's got 6 GB of Ram on the PC he's running Fedora 19 on. Do we need a separate thread for distros which will run on old computers, which I'm guessing Fedora won't?

For my part, now that I'm back on my old Compaq for a while I'm both using and appreciating Puppy a lot more.
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 04 Jul 2013, 14:49    Post subject:  
Colonel Panic wrote:
Some good distros here, but I note that Billtoo's got 6 GB of Ram on the PC he's running Fedora 19 on. Do we need a separate thread for distros which will run on old computers, which I'm guessing Fedora won't?

For my part, now that I'm back on my old Compaq for a while I'm both using and appreciating Puppy a lot more.


Hi Colonel Panic, I installed Fedora 19 on an older HP desktop just to
give it a try.
Product number
PP164AA
Introduction date
12/28/2004
Country/region sold in

United States
Canada

Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Memory 1535MB (506MB used)
Operating System Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat)
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Thu 04 Jul 2013 02:32:35 PM EDT
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
X11 Vendor Fedora Project
Multimedia
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

Fedora 19 is running pretty well on this pc, I've added ram and a
better graphics card + a usb sound card .
I'll have to give the new Lighthouse 64 beta 2 a try as well.

This pc isn't really old I guess but it's getting up there Smile
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nitehawk


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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jul 2013, 16:01    Post subject:  
nitehawk wrote:
I recently decided to switch from Slackware (and Slackware-based distros) to just basic Debian. I didn't want to do Debian itself,...(too hard for someone still on dialup, having to download a net-install). And I for SURE didn't want to have to buy all 10 (I think it is now) DVDs.

So I have re-discovered CrunchBang. I've gotten quite hooked on the Openbox desktop,....and the fact that it is basically just Debian. In all fair-ness,...I haven't tired the latest Antix yet (which I may like as well).

I missed the late DreamLinux,...but these two smaller Debian-based distros seem really very nice!


OK,..
eating my own words!
...got tired of trying to fool with Openbox. Just went back to Slackware 14 (Xfce). It just seems easier,...maybe because I'm used to the combination of setting up Slackware,...and the Xfce desktop environment. Feels more like home. (As far as Puppies,...got one on all my machines.) Gotta use what works for you and on your particular computers, I guess.
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nooby

Joined: 29 Jun 2008
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Location: SwedenEurope
PostPosted: Sat 13 Jul 2013, 16:39    Post subject:  
I got curious on if this new Linux Mint would load in frugal install on NTFS desktop and it did

Writing using it now. Here is what DW says
Quote:

Linux Mint 15 "Xfce" edition: "The team is proud to announce the release of Linux Mint 15 'Olivia' Xfce. The highlight of this edition is the lightweight Xfce 4.10 desktop. Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment which aims to be fast and low on system resources, while still being visually appealing and user friendly.


I downloaded this iso linuxmint-15-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso (925MB I then made an emty Dir on my HD and named it lm15 but typically accidently gave it lm13 but that worked without problem too

Code:


  title lm13
  root (hd0,0) /linuxmint-15-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso
  kernel /lm13/casper/vmlinuz file=/preseed/mint.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/linuxmint-15-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso
  initrd /lm13/casper/initrd.lz


so give it a name you feel for. I copied from the iso these directories seed and casper and made changes to the menu.lst and rebooted and it just works./ Loads rather fast and works fast

The HD is named isodevice and one can write to a file using gedit and save it and one can delete files without needing any sudo or to be root. it works as one want it live.

Very practical the only bad thing is if they do updates behind the scene that could be problematic maybe. Look into such if you need to have a reliable version how to avoid it do such things. Flashplayer works on youtube so that is a good thing.

FF is still version 20 so that is old now maybe
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 03:55    Post subject:  
I've just installed the latest version of AntiX (13.1). It's working well except that I've so far not been able to enable the repos so my choice of extra software to install is limited at the moment.
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rokytnji

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul 2013, 10:22    Post subject:  
@CP

Code:
sux


password. enter

Code:
apt-get udate


enter

Is required after every AntiX fresh install to get the repos going.
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