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#1126 Post by bark_bark_bark »

i couldn't get flash player to install. You may need to grab it manually.
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#1127 Post by Ibidem »

simargl wrote:
musher0 wrote:It was a real consolation :) to see how lazy the Debian Live developers had been in categorizing the menu items -- as compared to the "logic" and effort that we invest in the creation of our own Puppy menus. An example of that sloppy menu can be found at http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#709758
I never understood why they need to add those "applications" at all - or actually why someone even bothered to make them. Xeyes for example is a program with 2 circles that move around following mouse pointer - so what's use of that, just wasting space and cluttering the menu. And, please don't say Puppy's menu is more logical :roll:, and what size are menu icons in Puppy, 8 pixels I think, so that can also be called lazy :wink:
Debian autogenerates the menus (by way of a program called "menu") from files that each package installs, so the package maintainer gets to say whether to have an entry.
Of course, a maintainer is likely the last person to recognize that their pet program is a waste of menu-space.

xeyes, etc. are part of the original X11 applications (x11-apps), mainly available because of tradition ("use xyz, it's always available" & "keep xyz available, it's widely used").

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#1128 Post by 01micko »

xeyes is a bit of fun...

My grandson loves the sugar implementation on the XO (olpc) laptops.

BTW you can get Sugar on a Stick (soas) on any PC, only ~500MB download, great for kids.

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Of course you can have some fun in JWM with xeyes too, even on a raspberry pi..

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#1129 Post by Colonel Panic »

James C wrote:Another new 'buntu spin...... Australis. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS w/ Mate and all sort of goodies.
http://rackingman.wix.com/australis

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linux@linux:~$ uname -r
3.5.0-27-generic
linux@linux:~$ 
That looks cool!
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#1130 Post by nitehawk »

I recently decided to switch from Slackware (and Slackware-based distros) to just basic Debian. I didn't want to do Debian itself,...(too hard for someone still on dialup, having to download a net-install). And I for SURE didn't want to have to buy all 10 (I think it is now) DVDs.

So I have re-discovered CrunchBang. I've gotten quite hooked on the Openbox desktop,....and the fact that it is basically just Debian. In all fair-ness,...I haven't tired the latest Antix yet (which I may like as well).

I missed the late DreamLinux,...but these two smaller Debian-based distros seem really very nice!

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#1131 Post by James C »

Grabbed one of my old P3's off the shelf...... don't even remember when I installed this.
http://bodhilinux.com/
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#1132 Post by drongo »

Hi,

All the other Puppies are compiled for x86 or 64 bit variants. Only something specifically for ARM will run on a Raspberry Pi.

Barry had recently started work again on an ARM Puppy for the Pi but he seems to be working on more fundamental infrastructure stuff at the moment.

So I guess we'll have to wait.

Sorry.

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#1133 Post by James C »

Fedora 19 XFCE released today.
http://fedoraproject.org/
and
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/piperma ... 03167.html

Been using Puppy too long...... the first thing I installed was SeaMonkey. :)
Comes with Midori and I don't really like Midori so.......
Trying to decide between XFCE and MATE.Looks like some testing is in order.

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#1134 Post by Billtoo »

I installed Fedora 19 KDE 64 bit to an external usb 3.0 hard drive on
an hp desktop pc.
I've been using Clementine on my PclinuxOS FullMonty64 and like it,
works good on Fedora 19 too.
Fedora 19 is working nice, there are so many distros to choose from :)

EDIT:I installed Fedora 19 on an Acer desktop:
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Memory 5975MB (1421MB used)
Operating System Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat)
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Thu 04 Jul 2013 10:01:32 AM EDT
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Desktop
X11 Vendor Fedora Project
Multimedia
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID

After using this for a day and learning a little more about it I'd say
that Fedora 19 is a keeper :)
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#1135 Post by Colonel Panic »

Some good distros here, but I note that Billtoo's got 6 GB of Ram on the PC he's running Fedora 19 on. Do we need a separate thread for distros which will run on old computers, which I'm guessing Fedora won't?

For my part, now that I'm back on my old Compaq for a while I'm both using and appreciating Puppy a lot more.
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#1136 Post by Billtoo »

Colonel Panic wrote:Some good distros here, but I note that Billtoo's got 6 GB of Ram on the PC he's running Fedora 19 on. Do we need a separate thread for distros which will run on old computers, which I'm guessing Fedora won't?

For my part, now that I'm back on my old Compaq for a while I'm both using and appreciating Puppy a lot more.
Hi Colonel Panic, I installed Fedora 19 on an older HP desktop just to
give it a try.
Product number
PP164AA
Introduction date
12/28/2004
Country/region sold in

United States
Canada

Computer
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Memory 1535MB (506MB used)
Operating System Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger’s Cat)
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Thu 04 Jul 2013 02:32:35 PM EDT
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
X11 Vendor Fedora Project
Multimedia
Audio Adapter USB-Audio - Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

Fedora 19 is running pretty well on this pc, I've added ram and a
better graphics card + a usb sound card .
I'll have to give the new Lighthouse 64 beta 2 a try as well.

This pc isn't really old I guess but it's getting up there :)
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#1137 Post by nitehawk »

nitehawk wrote:I recently decided to switch from Slackware (and Slackware-based distros) to just basic Debian. I didn't want to do Debian itself,...(too hard for someone still on dialup, having to download a net-install). And I for SURE didn't want to have to buy all 10 (I think it is now) DVDs.

So I have re-discovered CrunchBang. I've gotten quite hooked on the Openbox desktop,....and the fact that it is basically just Debian. In all fair-ness,...I haven't tired the latest Antix yet (which I may like as well).

I missed the late DreamLinux,...but these two smaller Debian-based distros seem really very nice!
OK,..
eating my own words!
...got tired of trying to fool with Openbox. Just went back to Slackware 14 (Xfce). It just seems easier,...maybe because I'm used to the combination of setting up Slackware,...and the Xfce desktop environment. Feels more like home. (As far as Puppies,...got one on all my machines.) Gotta use what works for you and on your particular computers, I guess.

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#1138 Post by nooby »

I got curious on if this new Linux Mint would load in frugal install on NTFS desktop and it did

Writing using it now. Here is what DW says
Linux Mint 15 "Xfce" edition: "The team is proud to announce the release of Linux Mint 15 'Olivia' Xfce. The highlight of this edition is the lightweight Xfce 4.10 desktop. Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment which aims to be fast and low on system resources, while still being visually appealing and user friendly.
I downloaded this iso linuxmint-15-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso (925MB I then made an emty Dir on my HD and named it lm15 but typically accidently gave it lm13 but that worked without problem too

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  title lm13
  root (hd0,0) /linuxmint-15-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso
  kernel /lm13/casper/vmlinuz file=/preseed/mint.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/linuxmint-15-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso
  initrd /lm13/casper/initrd.lz 
so give it a name you feel for. I copied from the iso these directories seed and casper and made changes to the menu.lst and rebooted and it just works./ Loads rather fast and works fast

The HD is named isodevice and one can write to a file using gedit and save it and one can delete files without needing any sudo or to be root. it works as one want it live.

Very practical the only bad thing is if they do updates behind the scene that could be problematic maybe. Look into such if you need to have a reliable version how to avoid it do such things. Flashplayer works on youtube so that is a good thing.

FF is still version 20 so that is old now maybe
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#1139 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've just installed the latest version of AntiX (13.1). It's working well except that I've so far not been able to enable the repos so my choice of extra software to install is limited at the moment.
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#1140 Post by rokytnji »

@CP

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sux
password. enter

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apt-get udate
enter

Is required after every AntiX fresh install to get the repos going.

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#1141 Post by Colonel Panic »

nitehawk wrote:
nitehawk wrote:I recently decided to switch from Slackware (and Slackware-based distros) to just basic Debian. I didn't want to do Debian itself,...(too hard for someone still on dialup, having to download a net-install). And I for SURE didn't want to have to buy all 10 (I think it is now) DVDs.

So I have re-discovered CrunchBang. I've gotten quite hooked on the Openbox desktop,....and the fact that it is basically just Debian. In all fair-ness,...I haven't tired the latest Antix yet (which I may like as well).

I missed the late DreamLinux,...but these two smaller Debian-based distros seem really very nice!
OK,..
eating my own words!
...got tired of trying to fool with Openbox. Just went back to Slackware 14 (Xfce). It just seems easier,...maybe because I'm used to the combination of setting up Slackware,...and the Xfce desktop environment. Feels more like home. (As far as Puppies,...got one on all my machines.) Gotta use what works for you and on your particular computers, I guess.
Agreed; the trouble is that Slack still doesn't have anything as like as good dependency tracking as Debian, and it's also got nowhere near the number of prebuilt packages that Debian has, so if you want something at all unusual (like Osmo for example) you have to guess your way through compiling it along with the packages it depends on.

I usually end up compromising and running both at the same time (or two distros, one based on each).
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#1142 Post by smokey01 »

Porteus is very good. Small, fast and slackware based.
This distro builder is pretty cool too.
http://build.porteus.org/

I would like to see JWM and Seamonkey as an option in the builder though.

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#1143 Post by nitehawk »

smokey01 wrote:Porteus is very good. Small, fast and slackware based.
This distro builder is pretty cool too.
http://build.porteus.org/

I would like to see JWM and Seamonkey as an option in the builder though.
I've heard a lot of good things about Porteus....may have to try that. However,...
I just went back to my old standby, VectorLinux. (Great Slackware-based distro) Seems that no matter what ever I try,....
I just always wind up going to straight ol' Vector and Puppy. Vector has a nice repository,..
(with dependencies). And it comes with a whole bunch of apps, and all the codecs OOTB.
Guess I'll just stay with that, and quit "distro-hopping".
I think that Vector is about ready to release the new version of 7.1. Can't wait to see what that is like.

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#1144 Post by bark_bark_bark »

If your a slackware user, you can use SlackBuilds for extra packages.
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#1145 Post by Colonel Panic »

bark_bark_bark wrote:If your a slackware user, you can use SlackBuilds for extra packages.
Sure, but it's more limited than Debian. I've tried it and couldn't get Osmo working in Vector (though it does in Salix, which has its own package management system).
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