(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

@ myke only just recently looked into grub2. one day grub4dos will get its turn, sound as if i should make more of an effort there though. grub2 is quite cantankerous when trying other distros and things

Lobster wrote:Have you tried a new OS or distro lately? Maybe on a tablet or phone?
Good? Bad? How did you get on? Anything Puppy could make use of?

I've been fighting with Blackberry OS lately, have to do periodic battery pulls, maybe every 2 or 3 weeks.

Worked on Windows 7 for a friend of mine, no biggie except for all the questions while I was doing it. I was learning as I went and the guy thought I already knew all about it and should be able to answer any question right off the top of my head, so I kind of snarkily said "Dude I use Puppy Linux, I'm figuring this shit out as I go here." No questions about Puppy followed. After setting it up for large text and a left-hand mouse I installed a printer and showed him how to use Windows Media Player, then how to copy mp3s from his phone to the desktop. Interesting that, had to mount the drive on the phone first before Windows could see it (Android).

Outside of work it's been spup 100 on the laptop, very stable and responsive. Lupu is on the desktop, still surprises me how freaking fast it is on modern hardware (few years old HP micro-ATX).

I'm done distro hopping, I just want to use my computers, Puppy rocks.

01micko wrote:dd works aarf to transfer the mageia iso directly to a usb flash drive. Mageia resides on my eee-701sd ssd now replacing kubuntu-1010.

As far as any other distro goes they are all crap (when it comes to the boot loader) at detecting anything apart from themselves and windows. Puppy is a must use in this situation unless you want to fart around with grub2 or lilo.

@micko yes but i have no flash drives that i want to dd at present.. not brave enough to try to dd onto a partition. havent finished looking at the stuff/distros i have on my array of sdcards and flashdrives. but one day.... have tried and failed mageia with grub2

I use my phone with opera mini 6 for a good deal of my internet surfing. Perhaps 50%.

I've used Debian for quite awhile...but am trying Mandriva just now (and soon Mageia). I'm also on dialup,...so have to get the CDs (or DVDs) by "snail-mail".
I'm running Slackware 13.37 on several of my older computers (and always a Puppy). Wary is going to be a "must" for me for quite a long time to come. Going to get Vector Linux 7 when it gets out,....(and then may discard Slackware.)
..I don't dooooo sudoooooo.

On my main Linux box right now is Mepis 11 and about 10 different Puppy installs.I did have Ubuntu 10.04 installed as well (booted with good old Grub Legacy) but never used it so I wiped the partition to make room for even more Puppy installs.

On various other boxes I'm running Ubuntu 10.10,PCLOS KDE and Gnome, Mandriva, Zenwalk and Aptosid.And I'm probably forgetting a few...... Spend most of the time running Puppy though.

nitehawk wrote:I've used Debian for quite awhile...but am trying Mandriva just now (and soon Mageia). I'm also on dialup,...so have to get the CDs (or DVDs) by "snail-mail".
I'm running Slackware 13.37 on several of my older computers (and always a Puppy). Wary is going to be a "must" for me for quite a long time to come. Going to get Vector Linux 7 when it gets out,....(and then may discard Slackware.)
..I don't dooooo sudoooooo.

OK,..forget what I said about using Mageia. Doesn't look like what I'm interested in. So that means for me its:
.Puppy (Wary and LegacyOS2)
.Slackware 13.37
.Vector Linux 7
.and maybe Debian (or a Deb derivative)

Mageia 1S
tarting udev:

on usb flashdrive too slow for my equipment. slower even than Meego.

I've been solely using Lubuntu for over a week now. Not an act of free will, but the result of some silly hardware accidents I don't dare to explain...

What shall I say. It just works. It is fast and stable and light on resources.
It is better than Puppy in some respects, more daily life ready OOTB.
I receive updates every couple of days that look after possible vulnerabilities.
The Lubuntu guys are taking their job and me the user seriously.

With Lubuntu I don't have to search endless forum threads hoping to find the correct answer to my problem. Because it all works and reliably so.
The other side of the coin is Lubuntu must be one of the most boring distros ever made Gone is the exciting kennel full of young blood, where you know you will get bitten, because that's what adventurous puppies do...

And, last but not least, I cannot get used to being a limited user, not being allowed to move stuff around like in Puppy. Once used to always being root, it is hard to accept less...

In a perfect world, Lupup would be all we need

Ever heard of PROXMOX

And Edubuntu with LTSP PC running Multimedia apps on the server thru their connection sessions (Terminal Server) But, you need either JAVA or Windows to test and use.

Hope that helps

As Bert said, it is nice to have a distro that just works. Fusion 14 and CLDG 11.3 (except for wine) (Calculate Linux Desktop Gnome).do that for me. They are both rather boring but when I need to just get something installed without worrying about dependencies, they are the ones I use and with both of them I don't run as root. With CLDG instead of fido, they have alfa - it is a Russian distro.

myke

YesterdayPorteus 1.0 was released. Porteus is a community based continuation of Slax.
Downloaded the 32-bit version and played with the live cd for a while.

I'm impressed! Porteus has a lot in common with Puppy, same portability, lightness, speed and the same amount of "thinking outside the box"
They offer quite a lot in a relatively small package (250mb)
There are clever cheatcodes and clever scripts allowing the user to really customize his/her Porteus.
Personally I don't need KDE, one of the desktop environments. (the other one is lxde). The live cd at one point used 666 (yes I know ) MB of ram...probably caused by having to keep the whole KDE ready as well.

Porteus is not for absolute beginners I think. Before running it, some reading on the website is absolutely necessary. But it is all very simple and very well explained.

Anyone else tried it yet?

I have recently tried 4 distros.

Elive 32bit stable- based on debian and E17. Pretty(looks great). linuxnewb-friendly and not sluggish(fast). And lastly it is very pretty(yes, i had to say it twice, it really looks great)


Elementary OS ‘Jupiter' 64bit- I didn't really explore much. but gave me the feeling that it was very simple(you cant do to much on it). uses gnome. Perfect for netbooks imo because of its simplicity.very polish(oh elive was very polished too).

Funny... the only people who will actually know and can install such an OS(without much help) isn't such a person who wants/needs this simplicity. This feels like the kind of OS where tech savvy person A installs it for computer idiot B.


I tried siltaz. I am very impressed with it. Its as fast as a snake's strike. and I really like it. I did try a previous version of siltaz which i thought was total crap. but version 3.0 really changed my opinion. so much better.


Lastly I tried tinycore. I did't use it much, i just wanted to test how fast it booted and stuff. runs okay.


Funny.

Yes I did try Porteus 1.0 but in Beta but have downloaded latest too but bin totally absorbed doing other things in Puppy. SFStray is something I wanted to learn

Okay about Lubuntu there. I tested that one too but like Peppermint better but maybe Lubuntu have more programs OOTB included. Peppermint wants to be small. Both use same Ubuntu style booting with Casper directory.

Grub2

Welp... On my computer desk are two full 50-PK CD cases and both are filled with 'you-name-it' Linux Distros from over the last few years, you might say I've tried most of them. The only one I settled down with for a period of time was LinuxMinT Version 7, that was a super distro but just a bit slow.

I've used various versions of Puppy, right now I play with Squeeze 4.99.2 (the newer one BK came out with recently) It isn't perfect by any means, but I believe Debian based puppies will have a further future than any of the others. I also use Cloud Puppy-1.0 for most general tasks or the little Cloud .pet I put together for any puppy (over in utility's) but as far as the 'Big Boy' that gets all the tough stuff, I use JoliOS (former Jolicloud) it is a distro based on cloud computing and I have to say, everything works without a hassle and it's almost as fast as puppy on the web. The part I like about this OS is that THEY maintain everything, updates, security, it all happens without you even knowing it and I only have to use it for my needs without wasting time trying to get something configured... adding something new... I wish puppy would take a route similar this!

After almost 30-years at the keyboard, you can't beat cloud computing no matter how you look at it! If you don't believe this will be your future, you must live under a rock somewhere.

>>>---Indian------>

Elive most likely is still pay if you want to install it properly.
Or have they changed policy? Live is free but then it is not easy
to make it remember country and time settings and keyboard
like setxkbmap se have to be used to get åäö

TinyCore has cone from discouraging of NTFS install to accepting NTFS OOTB but still warning about it. So that is a huge difference. From impossible for a complete noob to install frugal to NTFS hdd to at having a possibility to do it.

Cloud could work if one have it as complement to Puppy. That way if the cloud is down one would still be able to use the progs one already installed on the hdd.

Yes there is a risk that cloud will dominate. There is a trend but do we really know for how long it will last? Maybe the hard ware makers decide without asking us?

Yea, you need to pay if you want to install it.

I only tested it out on live CD, which is free.

you can't beat cloud computing no matter how you look at it! If you don't believe this will be your future, you must live under a rock somewhere.

That may be very true for most people, since most people live in cities with good internet access, but there are still people living out in the boondocks with dial up or worse. For those folks, the cloud is more like the fog.

I almost forgot. I've been running Xubuntu from the hard drive and Puppy from cd. Xubuntu dual boots with a copy of XP, but I haven't actually booted XP except to see that it works.

hey bugman i was checkin out tubolister ive never used it myself but remember coming across something on it on a ubuntu forum.

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-336264.html

there is the link to someone who got it working with wine & internet explorer 6 (ie 6 did not work though)

might give it a look

[quote="nooby"]Yes I did try Porteus 1.0 but in Beta but have downloaded latest too but bin totally absorbed doing other things in Puppy. SFStray is something I wanted to learn


hi nooby , i used your method to install porteus , herehttp://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php ... dac69753c9