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#1681 Post by Billtoo »

I installed PCLinuxOS 64 bit Mate edition to a usb 3.0 hard drive on
this pc and I've been running it for about a week with no problems.
It's a rolling release so security and software updates are reported by
the QT-update-notifier which checks for updates daily.
The latest versions of many applications are available in the repo.
The synaptic package manager works well and downloads are fast.

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Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Desktop
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Memory 8068MB (383MB used)
Operating System PCLinuxOS

PCLinuxOS runs well on the hardware that I've tested it on which includes
intel dual core, intel dual core with hyperthreading, intel quad core,
and an amd 6 core processor.
Two of the computers have intel graphics and
one has an ati hd 5470 graphics card, the other has a nvidia GT430
graphics card.

It's a keeper in my opinion.

EDIT: I installed VirtualBox and find that it's a great way to check out other distros, it works well.
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#1682 Post by Colonel Panic »

I'm posting this from OpenSUSE 13.1.1 (educational edition) as a live disk in a community centre, and I have to say it's working very well although it's clearly not a distro for old computers. KDE 4 hasn't crashed yet (touch wood).
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#1683 Post by Billtoo »

I installed PCLinuxOS 32 bit version LXDE to the hard drive of my
compaq presario S6700NX desktop pc.

Computer
Processor 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory 1552MB (172MB used)
Operating System PCLinuxOS
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Fri 21 Nov 2014 04:42:14 PM EST
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI R200 (RV280 5960) x86/MMX/SSE2 DRI2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter CMI8738-MC6 - C-Media CMI8738
Input Devices
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Power Button
Power Button
Chicony 2.4G Multimedia Wireless Kit
Chicony 2.4G Multimedia Wireless Kit
Printers
No printers found
SCSI Disks
ATA ST3160021A
ATA WDC WD1600BB-00G

I added google chrome,palemoon,vlc,smplayer,and other applications
from the repo.

It's working well on this 10+ year old computer.

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#1684 Post by James C »

The next two releases of Debian are scheduled to be......
Codenames
=========

Our release managers chose the following codenames for future
releases:

* Debian 9 "Stretch"
* Debian 10 "Buster"
https://lists.debian.org/debian-release ... 00749.html

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#1685 Post by James C »

Still running Salix.... an extended test. And no systemd. :)

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james[~]$ uname -a
Linux darkstar 3.10.17-smp #2 SMP Wed Oct 23 17:13:14 CDT 2013 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
james[~]$ 
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#1686 Post by James C »

Arch is still running well....

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[james@evo ~]$ uname -a
Linux evo 3.17.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Nov 21 21:14:42 CET 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Hasn't crashed and burned during an update yet..... :)

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#1687 Post by wboz »

How can I tell if I've already posted in this thread .. ? :)

Ok confession, my company work computer is actually where I spend most of my time (bc it's required!). So that's Win 7, which, imho, is actually a quality OS. But at HOME:

Ubuntu 14.10 on a Core i3 Haswell desktop I built. I've had some hardware problems, not OS related. I have lubuntu DE too but generally don't use it; Unity has some killer apps (application/file search, vertical task bar which is valuable on widescreens) that I prefer.

The OS does throw some apport errors on startup which is super annoying. And, despite it being a relatively "finished" OS, it generates an annoying numbers of problems to "clean up." For example, I installed Lubuntu no-recommends which included a second audio player. You can select the default player, but both players now show in the audio drop down (they require a manual config entry to remove that I haven't done.) Seriously? More concerning, I cannot get the OS to require a password at startup or sleep for the life of me -- again, a line of code added to a config file somewhere that needs to be tracked down and deleted, which is harder than it sounds since unlike Puppy gedit continually refuses to save changes because "user is not root!"

So OK, I have some annoyances, as you can tell :)

I've experimented with Tiny Core Linux back when I was discovering Puppy. Far too difficult even if you're doing it for fun. And Bodhi too, but despite people's claims that the DE is "lightweight and beautiful" I just found it to be gaudy-looking.

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#1688 Post by James C »

Porteus 3.1 was just released today.

http://forum.porteus.org/

Mate version was about a 200 mb download.

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root@porteus# uname -a
Linux porteus 3.17.4-porteus #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 24 20:55:52 Local time zone must be set-- i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

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root@porteus# free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       2064964    1313696     751268          0     101512     716680
-/+ buffers/cache:     495504    1569460
Swap:      2150396          0    2150396
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#1689 Post by James C »

Other than Puppy the primary os I still use is MX-14.3.Been rock solid since install.

http://mepiscommunity.org/mx/

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Linux mx1 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.12.9-1~bpo70+1 (2014-02-07) i686 GNU/Linux
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#1690 Post by nubc »

Hi James C,
I was just appreciating your screenshot of Porteus. I checked out their website, and read that it's not recommended to run Porteus from hard drive with files in decompressed state. Rather user should keep files compressed. What exactly is the problem if files are decompressed on hard drive? How would my experience suffer if I installed with decompression? And does this advice apply to Puppy as well?

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#1691 Post by gcmartin »

nubc wrote:... What exactly is the problem if files are decompressed on hard drive? How would my experience suffer if I installed with decompression? And does this advice apply to Puppy as well?
I cannot speak for Porteus, but in general it works like this. You have a system running in all its glory. Some things are in RAM and some system functions are stored on peripheral. When the system needs and that need is NOT resident in RAM, then a request is sent out fetching that need from a peripheral device. With systems that have stored data in a compressed state, the compressed data is read to RAM and the OS MUST decompress that data to an uncompressed state for execution. This has an obvious penalty.

On systems, like PUPPY when running from RAM, this TOO! can occur even though the filesystem exist in RAM. Either must endure this penalty.

On any system where the OS needs exist in an uncompressed state on peripheral, the OS goes to work WITHOUT EVER considering compression, thus, it is faster. In PUPPY Linux, this can have an even greater performance gain as the filesystem exist, uncompressed, in RAM and thus goes to work straightaway.

But, there is a tradeoff and that tradeoff is in the time it takes to read OS needs from any peripheral, including PUPPY in RAM; compressed versus uncompressed. The I/O subsystem must issue a request and wait and wait and wait (if no other system work needs to be done) for the data request to be presented so that it can be executed. So, for some OSes, the amount of time it takes to read an uncompressed need can be slower than the time to read a compressed need. As such, this difference in time can be just enough that an overall OS benefit can be achieved, as to read from the device to system buffer could be just short enough for an compressed need where the OS would have expand it....versus reading a larger compressed need and OS not needed to do such.

I did raise the question several years ago about the difference in I/O subsystem behavior when the filesystem is in RAM instead of on peripheral as I was concerned about whether the Puppy system was actually handling data in RAM in exactly the same path as it does peripheral or if Puppy saw RAM filesystem use in a different fashion. I did not get an answer, but, coincidentally and about simultaneously, BarryK mades some strides in his Intersystem-Communications utility. Whether that was extended to improve OS behavior, I cannot say. But, in mainframes, this is a prime reason that they are so powerful in processing. Some mainframe OSes manage this overall phenomenon very very well.

To answer, your question, I think you can see ...

Hope this helps.

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#1692 Post by James C »

nubc wrote:Hi James C,
I was just appreciating your screenshot of Porteus. I checked out their website, and read that it's not recommended to run Porteus from hard drive with files in decompressed state. Rather user should keep files compressed. What exactly is the problem if files are decompressed on hard drive? How would my experience suffer if I installed with decompression? And does this advice apply to Puppy as well?
Not a Porteus guru but...... If Porteus were installed uncompressed (traditional full install) one would gasically have a Slackware install with a few Porteus tweaks and apps.Never personally tried anything other than the frugal install with Porteus because frugal works so well.

The Porteus recommended frugal install (which I use) loads everything into ram and is fast....boot and shutdown is much faster than Puppy and the actual running system is as fast as well.

Copy a couple of folders to the drive,edit the menu.lst and boot into Porteus...easy and fast.

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#1693 Post by rokytnji »

James C wrote:Other than Puppy the primary os I still use is MX-14.3.Been rock solid since install.

http://mepiscommunity.org/mx/

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james@mx1:~
$ uname -a
Linux mx1 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.12.9-1~bpo70+1 (2014-02-07) i686 GNU/Linux

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$ inxi -S
System:    Host: biker Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.3 Distro: MX-14.1.1 Symbiosis 18 June 2014
Same here (but 14.1) but I keep a personal Carolina Puppy save file on it also when I pop in my cd on this Compaq CQ56 Laptop.

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#1694 Post by rokytnji »

Other setup on a Dell . Linux-Lite 2 XFCE

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#1695 Post by Colonel Panic »

Vector's taking its time (to put it mildly IMO) releasing the new version of Vector Standard, 7.1, so I've reinstalled Vector 7.0 Gold instead.

It's the first time I've had Vector on this machine and it runs very well.
Gigabyte M68MT-52P motherboard, AMD Athlon II X4 630, 5.8 GB of DDR3 RAM and a 250 GB Hitachi hard drive running Ubuntu 16.04.6, MX-19.2, Peppermint 10, PCLinuxOS 20.02, LXLE 18.04.3, Pardus 19.2, exGENT 200119, Bionic Pup 8.0 and Xenial CE 7.5 XL.

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#1696 Post by nitehawk »

I've been waiting (seems like forever) for Vector 7.1 as well. I recently broke down and got another computer (an "Ebay special"). Refurbished, but really nice:

HP Compaq 3Ghz--4G ram--500G hard drive

I have Mageia 4.1 on it right now (along with Tahrpup 6.0). Would have tried Vector 7.1 on it,.....(but got tired of waiting). Using my really OLD Pentium III right now,...with nice old Wary 5.1.1 on it (still a really nice Puppy). Posting this from it right now. :D

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#1697 Post by Colonel Panic »

nitehawk wrote:I've been waiting (seems like forever) for Vector 7.1 as well. I recently broke down and got another computer (an "Ebay special"). Refurbished, but really nice:

HP Compaq 3Ghz--4G ram--500G hard drive

I have Mageia 4.1 on it right now (along with Tahrpup 6.0). Would have tried Vector 7.1 on it,.....(but got tired of waiting). Using my really OLD Pentium III right now,...with nice old Wary 5.1.1 on it (still a really nice Puppy). Posting this from it right now. :D
Good for you! You can get some good buys on EBay, and those HP Compaq machines are very good value right now.

Good to see you posting here again btw. Are you on broadband now, or still on dialup?
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#1698 Post by nitehawk »

<sigh> still on dialup. :(

Had to get a decent computer first. Who knows,....high speed internet might be in the near future (if I can budget it in). I can still do a lot with dialup, though. (it's better than nothing).

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#1699 Post by James C »

AntiX 14 a5

http://antix.mepis.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

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james@antix1:~
$ inxi -F
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 3.18.1-antix.1-486-smp i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-14-a5-RV_386-full Killah_P 14 January 2015
Machine:   Mobo: ASRock model: N68-S UCC
           Bios: American Megatrends v: P1.70 date: 03/03/2011
CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB 
           clock speeds: max: 2712 MHz 1: 2712 MHz 2: 2712 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.2.901 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
           Card-2 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel
           Sound: ALSA v: k3.18.1-antix.1-486-smp
Network:   Card: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet driver: forcedeth
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:25:22:61:55:fc
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1250.3GB (0.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST3250318AS size: 250.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 49G used: 2.8G (7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda9
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.49GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 31.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 41.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 114 Uptime: 42 min Memory: 372.4/3538.8MB
           Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.16 
james@antix1:~
$ 
http://antix.freeforums.org/antix-14r-a ... t5471.html
3.18.1-486-smp kernel and 99.9% systemd-free! No libsystemd0 and includes nosystemd debs for cups, gvfs etc.
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#1700 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've just downloaded and run the latest version of ArchBang, 150111 the i686 version). It's mostly fine but the version of Firefox it includes isn't 100% stable, and I was able to get it to crash on a site I use a lot.
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