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#2056 Post by rokytnji »

darry1966 wrote:To JamesC and Roky and other fans of LinuxBBQ
new XFCE release from Machinebacon
http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f ... 720#p45720
* Debian vanilla 586 kernel, version 4.2
* sysvinit
* no upower, no udisks, no gvfs, no policykit, no consolekit
* no-GTK top level applications:
** gitfm file manager
** alpine mail reader
** elinks web browser
** feh image viewer
* BBQ toolbox:
** Music: tinyradio, playstream, playmp3
** System: env-info, automount, bbqexit
** Utilities: dkeger, bbqpkg, bbqsnapshot, bbqinstaller
* additional goodies:
** cclive (needs a media player, eg. mplayer)
** scrotnow, scrotsel (keybinds to PrntScr and Shift+PrntScr)
** ceni for network configuration
** units unit conversion
** curl/wget download helpers
** ssh/sftp secure shells
** printfile (needs lprng)
** mpg123 music player
** etc etc
Sounds like a Core Iso with XFCE thrown in. Then one can apt-get or aptitude their way to toning her body up to what you prefer later.

Later on. I am going to break out a crt, a tower desktop, a keyboard, a wirless usb, and give https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/newha ... roduction/ a chance to give me a table dance.

My test box for this is 64 bit. Because the above dropped i386 support a few realeases back.

If anyone with a i386 box has the same itch to scratch later on. Go with
https://www.freebsd.org/where.html

They let you run with Window Managers or Desktop Enviroments during the install process. Up to you. I do stuff like this to hurt my mind. Trying to learn so keep my mind in motion.

Thanks darry1966 for the heads up. It is why I love this thread. :D
I use this thread way before I ever go to distro watch.

darry1966

#2057 Post by darry1966 »

Hi Roky,

true for the most part its a standard Sid except it has a lot of crap that a standard Debian Sid install has removed, ts the very minimal xfce without thunar and
no upower, no udisks, no gvfs, no policykit, no consolekit that makes it special. Great for old machines for those that what to run XFCE without all the crap that comes with it and plus have LinuxBBQ's tools as well. Anyway hope your BSD adventures are going well. :)

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#2058 Post by Colonel Panic »

Another good distro for old computers is WattOS. I've just installed the latest version (R9) which is based on the LTS version of Ubuntu (14.04).

The full version of Watt, which I'm using, uses LXDE as its desktop environment, but there is also a micro version in which you have to install your own desktop / window manager. I haven't tried that one and don't know much about it.

It's very much a lightweight distro so you have to install your own office software, but since it's based on Ubuntu you have all the Ubuntu repositories to choose from. It has Firefox 38 as its main browser.
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#2059 Post by peterw »

Hi All

I have an Acer C720 Chromebook and dual boot various Puppies on it as well as other distros. There have been problems with the touch pad, the keys and suspend when the lid is closed, etc. This version of Ubuntu seems to have overcome the problems.
HugeGreenBug's Ubuntu 15.04 for Haswell Chromebooks/Chromeboxes
which can be found at:
https://www.distroshare.com/distros/get/72/

The following observations summarise my observations:
1. Boot time similar to Puppy about 25 seconds from the grub4dos option screen.
2. Unity window works well as on other Ubuntus. And the system is responsive.
3. Keys such as volume, brightness, etc work as on chromeOS.
4. Closing the lid suspends as it should.
5. Touch pad works smoothly, including tapping.
6. And SWAP is interesting. Quote "You no longer need to create a swap partition when installing. This is due to zram, which creates a compressed swap space in memory that performs much better than swap on the ssd."
7. Microphone in Google works to aid searching.

If you have a Chromebook it is well worth a try.

Regards
peterw

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#2060 Post by Billtoo »

I installed Ubuntu Mate 15.10 beta 2 to my macmini, installed synaptic and some other applications.
It's working well.
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#2061 Post by James C »

darry1966 wrote:To JamesC and Roky and other fans of LinuxBBQ
new XFCE release from Machinebacon
http://linuxbbq.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?f ... 720#p45720
Thanks for the heads up, been really busy with real life..... :)

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user@grill:~$ uname -a
Linux grill 4.2.0-trunk-586 #1 Debian 4.2-1~exp1 (2015-08-31) i686 GNU/Linux

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              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:        3026056      140272     2300592      295484      585192     2555944
Swap:             0           0           0
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#2062 Post by James C »

Trisquel 7.0 x64.

http://trisquel.info/
Trisquel GNU/Linux is a fully free operating system for home users, small enterprises and educational centers.

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james@james-trisquel:~$ inxi -Fff
System:    Host: james-trisquel Kernel: 3.13.0-65-lowlatency x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Gnome Distro: Trisquel 7.0 belenos
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 version: Rev 1.xx Bios: American Megatrends version: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1400.00 MHz 2: 1400.00 MHz 3: 1400.00 MHz 4: 1400.00 MHz 5: 1400.00 MHz 6: 2500.00 MHz
           CPU Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm aes aperfmperf apic arat avx bmi1 clflush cmov cmp_legacy 
           constant_tsc cpb cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid f16c flushbyasid 
           fma fma4 fpu fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibs lahf_lm lbrv lm lwp mca mce misalignsse mmx 
           mmxext monitor msr mtrr nodeid_msr nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw pae pat pausefilter 
           pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_nb pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rdtscp 
           rep_good sep skinit sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm svm_lock syscall tbm tce topoext 
           tsc tsc_scale vmcb_clean vme vmmcall wdt xop xsave 
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] 
           X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1440x900@59.9hz 
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3
Audio:     Card-1: NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: k3.13.0-65-lowlatency
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel 
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (0.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB 
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 34G used: 4.8G (15%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 15.9C mobo: N/A gpu: 34.0 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 244 Uptime: 31 min Memory: 713.5/7887.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.17 
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#2063 Post by fredx181 »

Hi All,

Just a tip to install Windows 10 for free.
For free ? That must be illegal!!!.
Not illegal, lets call it .... 'unofficial' :D
It comes down to install first the 'Insiders Preview 10130 build', activate it with provided product code (see for that in below second link) and then legally upgrade to latest (10240) version.
Since the option to activate version 10130 has been expired, you need to set the date in your computer BIOS to some date in september 2015 before installing.
Download build 10130 here:
http://getintopc.com/softwares/operatin ... -download/
Follow the instructions from here:
http://dellwindowsreinstallationguide.c ... e-upgrade/

After installing and activating the build 10130 preview you need to download official iso or install the 'media creation tool' to create one
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software ... ndows10ISO
Burn the ISO to DVD and run Setup.exe from it while/inside running Windows 10 preview (very important)
So this way in fact you are installing Windows 2 times.
When finished you have a legal activated Windows 10 latest build.

I had still XP installed and it hasn't got the free upgrade option to 10 like Win 7 has.
Did this 'trick' the last few days on a few computers of mine and from friends and it works beautiful.
If you want to try, don't wait to long as this option may permanently expire.

Fred

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#2064 Post by Colonel Panic »

I've just installed the latest version of Emmabuntus 3-1, a French distro which is based on the LTS version of Xubuntu (14.04.3). It's designed for older computers and has a very comprehensive set of software with installation options designed to conserve system resources (it claims to be still usable in 512 MB of RAM).

One drawback though is its size - its ISO is over 4 GB in size and when installed takes up just under 11 GB (though the devs recommend you install it in a 20 GB partition).
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#2065 Post by Colonel Panic »

A further note on Emmabuntus - I now see that it's designed to be used by people in poor countries with no Internet connection (or at least not one fast enough to permit the downloading of a lot of software), which explains its very large size.

It may well be that people with fast Internet connections, e.g. most people on this forum, would be better off installing Xubuntu (Version 15.10 of which is due to be released very shortly) and just downloading the extra software they need or want.
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#2066 Post by James C »

https://www.gentoo.org/

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Linux gentoo 4.2.3 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Oct 27 10:30:19 UTC 2015 x86_64 AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

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#2067 Post by mcewanw »

fredx181 wrote:Hi All,

Just a tip to install Windows 10 for free.
For free ? That must be illegal!!!.
Not illegal, lets call it .... 'unofficial' :D
...
Fred
Hi Fred,

I had legal win7 on a couple of computers but never bothered upgrading to win10 because I pretty much only use DebianDog or MintPup. So my question would be: is there a good reason to have win10 installed (especially if have win7 already for occasional times wanting to run some piece of windows only software)?

William
github mcewanw

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#2068 Post by L18L »

fredx181 wrote:Download build 10130 here:
http://getintopc.com/softwares/operatin ... -download/
Follow the instructions from here:
http://dellwindowsreinstallationguide.c ... e-upgrade/
...free-download and ...free-upgrade does not make a free os.
Or maybe just free as in free beer. Image

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#2069 Post by James C »

Tiny Core Pure 64.
http://www.tinycorelinux.net/
http://www.tinycorelinux.net/6.x/x86_64/release/

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tc@box:~$ uname -a
Linux box 3.16.6-tinycore64 #777 SMP Thu Oct 16 10:21:00 UTC 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       8086724       545224      7541500            0        43448
-/+ buffers:             501776      7584948
Swap:     10397612            0     10397612
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#2070 Post by Burn_IT »

I use Windows for work mostly and Puppy for myself.
I see no advantage of moving to W10 on older equipment As far as I am concerned the disadvantages far outweigh any gain prior to 2025
"Just think of it as leaving early to avoid the rush" - T Pratchett

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#2071 Post by fredx181 »

mcewanw wrote:
fredx181 wrote:Hi All,

Just a tip to install Windows 10 for free.
For free ? That must be illegal!!!.
Not illegal, lets call it .... 'unofficial' :D
...
Fred
Hi Fred,

I had legal win7 on a couple of computers but never bothered upgrading to win10 because I pretty much only use DebianDog or MintPup. So my question would be: is there a good reason to have win10 installed (especially if have win7 already for occasional times wanting to run some piece of windows only software)?

William
Hi William,
I have little experience with Win 7, so can't compare really, but I heard from other people that Win 10 is a little faster, and uses less memory.
I like the more simple looks of it, maybe that's also the reason why it runs faster.
But if you use Windows only occasional, and Win 7 runs well for you, I'd say just keep it.
For me the choice was to install again Win XP or install Win 10 (XP it's generally not recommended anymore, so I chose Win 10).

Fred

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#2072 Post by Burn_IT »

OOTB it probably is because MS have actually listened a little to public opinion and made many of what used to be default options recommended options instead.
They have also removed (as far as I can tell) many of the internal checks that were on by default.
Without that horrible voice, it would be even better!!
"Just think of it as leaving early to avoid the rush" - T Pratchett

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#2073 Post by James C »

Still using PCLOS MATE.....
http://www.pclinuxos.com/
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#2074 Post by zakjoh »

James C

What was your opinion on Tiny Core Pure 64 and will you be using it again ?

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#2075 Post by James C »

zakjoh wrote:James C

What was your opinion on Tiny Core Pure 64 and will you be using it again ?
Still have it installed.

For a stripped down,very fast system it's got a lot of potential.Think I'll experiment with it for a while.

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