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anticapitalista

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PostPosted: Sun 05 Jun 2016, 17:33    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
I'm thinking of keeping one distro for use with tiling window managers (dwm is also a good one).


antiX comes with herbstluftwm tiler.
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Tue 07 Jun 2016, 15:10    Post subject:  

anticapitalista wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
I'm thinking of keeping one distro for use with tiling window managers (dwm is also a good one).


antiX comes with herbstluftwm tiler.


Thanks, but I'm afraid I haven't a clue about that one. I may ask a question about it in the AntiX forums.

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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun 2016, 01:54    Post subject:  

Hello Colonel Panic,

here is some info from Linuxbbq........

http://linuxbbq.org/wiki/index.php/Herbstluftwm
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PostPosted: Wed 08 Jun 2016, 12:21    Post subject:  

Robert123 wrote:
Hello Colonel Panic,

here is some info from Linuxbbq........

http://linuxbbq.org/wiki/index.php/Herbstluftwm


Thank you Smile I'll have a look at it soon.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Jun 2016, 09:09    Post subject:  

In other news; I've recently reinstalled Salix Mate 14.1 (64-bit). Apart from the usual rigmarole with Salix resulting from the fact that one of the necessary files - .dmrc - is missing, it's working well. I'm not convinced though that for must users, and certainly most Puppy users with older computers, there's much to be gained from using the 64-bit version of Salix as opposed to the 32-bit.
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Jun 2016, 14:12    Post subject:  

Hi, Colonel P,...

I noticed you are running Puppy Tahr 6.05,...
(this is supposed to be a thread for other distros,..but,...) I just installed Puppy Tahr 6.05 on this old HP Compaq desktop I have. Seems to be working really NICE. This old thing still has WinVista on it, mind you...so Tahr 6.05 seems like a breath of fresh air. At least this old computer will do 64 bit,..and has 4g of ram. I also put the upgraded Lupu Puppy 5287 on it as well (also very nice!). I had Devuan on it,..but somehow the boot got all messed up (and I'm no expert). There went all my hard work,.... Crying or Very sad

Oh well,..Antix 16 b2 seems to boot up nicely,...so it looks like that's a natural for this machine. I will replace Devuan with it (Antix has always been a very favorite of mine,..along with Puppy). The really old laptop I have (HP Pavilion dv2000) has that really bad graphic card in it,...so it looks like Anix 16 b2 won't run in it. But nothing much does. Right now Bodhi 9 seems to be behaving on it a little (as well as the updated Lupu Puppy 5287). The video crashes on it ever-so-often. Fun,..fun.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jun 2016, 11:33    Post subject:  

Alright,....
I got Antix 16 b2 all working on my HP Compaq desktop now. So nice.
That's what I love about Linux,.....so many choices, and these really lovely little distros that keep the old computers going. Now if only my old laptop's video card would behave enough to where I could install Anix on that ...(would make me a very happy camper).
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jun 2016, 12:42    Post subject:  

nitehawk wrote:
Alright,....
I got Antix 16 b2 all working on my HP Compaq desktop now. So nice.
That's what I love about Linux,.....so many choices, and these really lovely little distros that keep the old computers going. Now if only my old laptop's video card would behave enough to where I could install Anix on that ...(would make me a very happy camper).


Hi again nitie,

Yeah, AntiX is really good. Increasingly I'm finding that I use distros based on either Debian or Slackware more than any others (apart from Stella, which is based on CentOS and is an excellent distro in its own right). Mint's good as well though, and there's a new beta of it out so I'll be trying that one soon.

I still use Tahr 6.05 but I find that for some videos (the ones displayed as links in Twitter) the browser won't play them with the flash that installs now; it needs Chromium really.

I note what you said about Devuan; I think there are still problems with Devuan unfortunately. I like the look of the project but I might hold off getting it until the kinks have been ironed out.

If memory serves, AntiX offers SysV as an install option so there's no need to use Devuan if all you want to do is avoid having to use Systemd.

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jun 2016, 12:51    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:

Hi again nitie,

Yeah, AntiX is really good. Increasingly I'm finding that I use distros based on either Debian or Slackare more than any otheras (apart from Stella, which is based on CentOS and is an excellent distro in its own right). Mint's good as well though, and there's a new beta of it out so I'll be trying that one soon.

I still use Tahr 6.05 but I find that for some videos (the ones displayed as links in Twitter) the browser won't play them with the flash that installs now; it needs Chromium really.

I hote what tyou said about Devuan; I think there are still problems with Devuan unfortunately. I opike the look of the project but I mighht hold off getting it uintil the kinks have been ironed out.

If memeory serves, AntiX offers SysV as an instyall option so there's no need to use Devuan if all you want to do is avoid having to use Systemd.


Agreed. Like you,..I find I am sticking mostly with Debian and Slackware based distros. I recently read a review about Devuan, which basically said they didn't think it was "there yet" for the general linux user. I would have to agree, I'm afraid. And like you say,...Stella is a very outstanding distro as well. Antix is my very favorite Debian distro for all my older machines,...
EDIT: I'm curious about the new Linux Mint as well. However,..I always had this thing of NOT using Ubuntu, or any derivitives (I made an exception with Bodhi right now). I think that is because I started back years ago with pure Debian,..and the idea of Ubuntu didn't seem all that good at the time. Still am that way, in a bit (except for all the excellent Puppies based on it).
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Jun 2016, 13:47    Post subject:  

Thanks for your reply nitie. Sorry about the typos, which I've since corrected.

To be honest, the Debian vs Ubuntu question (which you touch on) is one I haven't really resolved for myself. Not so long ago Debian won out because it was more economical with system resources than Ubuntu, but most people now have more than enough RAM in their computers to run Ubuntu easily so this is far less of an issue nowadays.

One thing I have learnt with Debian though is not to try and "mix and match"; if you're using a distro based on Debian Jessie, for example, don't try to install packages from either Ubuntu or Debian Testing as it won't work and can create a lot of problems.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 02:20    Post subject:  

Colonel Panic wrote:
the Debian vs Ubuntu question (which you touch on) is one I haven't really resolved for myself. Not so long ago Debian won out because it was more economical with system resources than Ubuntu,


i switched from ubuntu to debian, so this is an easy one. ubuntu never has anything i need to go back for, and i dont think theyre as ethical or care about the user as much as they used to (i have fond memories of xubuntu.)

these days i use devuan. its pretty stable, it has given me less trouble for the past 15 months than debian testing did prior to that.

im a fan of gnuinos and refracta, which are live devuan derivs. here is refracta running live with xfce: http://i.imgur.com/uslBGBo.webm
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 09:15    Post subject:  

I have heard of refracta (some time back). Didn't know it was based on Devuan (instead of Debian proper). I will have a look at that.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jun 2016, 10:36    Post subject:  

nitehawk wrote:
I have heard of refracta (some time back). Didn't know it was based on Devuan (instead of Debian proper).


i believe older versions were based on debian wheezy. i met the dev recently, (fsmithred) -- definitely a fan.
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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jun 2016, 02:56    Post subject:  

Stella still solid as a rock and still no systemd......

Running well on this old 32 bit nox.

Code:
[james@localhost ~]$ inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: localhost.localdomain Kernel: 4.6.2-1.el6.elrepo.i686 i686 (32 bit gcc: 4.4.7)
           Desktop: Gnome 2.28.2 dm: gdm Distro: Stella release 6.8 (Final)
Machine:   Mobo: MICRO-STAR INTL model: MS-7037 v: Ver 0A
           Bios: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG date: 06/08/2004
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (pae sse sse2) bmips: 6001
           clock speeds: min/max: 375/3000 MHz 1: 3000 MHz 2: 3000 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2572
           Display Server: CentOS X.org 1.17.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 865G
           GLX Version: 1.3  bit box.Mesa 11.0.7 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_intel8x0 ports: dc00 e000 bus-ID: 00:1f.5 chip-ID: 8086:24d5
           Sound: ALSA v: k4.6.2-1.el6.elrepo.i686
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
           driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: a000
           bus-ID: 01:0d.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8139
           IF: eth1 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:11:09:27:3b:5a
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 400.1GB (1.9% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD2000JB size: 200.0GB serial: WD-WMAL81381041
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2000JB size: 200.0GB serial: WD-WMAEP2747647
Partition: ID-1: / size: 16G used: 5.2G (33%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb14
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.31GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
RAID:      System: supported: N/A
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 185 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 155.9/2009.1MB
           Init: Upstart v: 0.6.5 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.1.21 running in gnome-terminal) inxi: 2.3.0
[james@localhost ~]$
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PostPosted: Fri 17 Jun 2016, 04:31    Post subject:  

Is Linux Lite 3.0 locked into systemd, or is there an option?
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