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mcewanw

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Jun 2017, 22:52    Post subject:  

Moat wrote:

It's like some "bizarro-world", un-controllable monster, all of and by it's own. IMHO, the Linux ecosystem could use a grand dose of what Linus has accomplished with development/maintenance of the kernel - i.e.; insightful, intelligent leadership and central decision-making, combined with a collaborative community in support.

I can only wonder if that will (can?) ever happen, beyond the kernel.

Bob


Just give systemd more time and it will eventually have everything in it hahaha

Disclaimer: a lot of systemd I actually like, despite my 'joke'. The old init system is OLD, rusty, inefficient and long past its use by date. The older we get the more nostalgic - but that's not how civilisation advances - the time comes when we should simply enjoy life but to a large extent move aside for the young - like it or not, it is they who inherit the Earth (and Linux...!).

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 18 Jun 2017, 11:38    Post subject: Other Distros
Subject description: Debian 9
 

I installed Debian 9 to the hard drive of my Acer desktop pc:

System: Host: Acer Kernel: 4.9.0-3-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Acer model: Aspire X3950 BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 05/05/2010
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 540 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1200/3067 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Desktop GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (1.9% used)
Info: Processes: 174 Uptime: 1:19 Memory: 747.7/5836.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5

Okay so far.
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Jun 2017, 07:07    Post subject:  

Apparently some people have had problems with the first Debian 9 images, especially with installing them to their hard drives, so the devs have put some fresh ones (9.0.1) up on their site.

I've recently installed Sparky 4.6 (LXDE version) and it not only installs well but I was able to upgrade it from the RC version to the latest one. As luck would have it, the full version of 4.6 has just been released today.

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jun 2017, 15:51    Post subject: Other Distros  

I installed Ubuntu 17.04 to a usb-3.0 SSD to use on my Acer desktop:

bill@bill-Aspire-X3950:~$ inxi -b
System: Host: bill-Aspire-X3950 Kernel: 4.10.0-24-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Gnome Distro: Ubuntu 17.04
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Acer model: Aspire X3950 BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 05/05/2010
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 540 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1200/3067 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.3 drivers: modesetting (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Desktop GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 17.0.3
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 626.4GB (1.9% used)
Info: Processes: 215 Uptime: 2:16 Memory: 757.1/5830.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
bill@bill-Aspire-X3950:~$

I have Xubuntu 17.04 installed on the main hard drive and I like it but
I'm liking this a lot too.
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Tue 04 Jul 2017, 21:33    Post subject:  

Moat wrote:
I had a brief play with the just-released MX Linux 16;

https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=09669

https://mxlinux.org/

Really, really impressive. If anyone is interested in a systemd-free (uses SysVInit) stable Debian Jesse with an extremely well fleshed-out and complete Xfce desktop (which can be a biotch to arrive at with Debian, IMHO) - including a number of very neat and useful Anti-X/MX applications/modules, and it's own additional repo with a GUI app specifically for it - I'd heartily recommend giving this distro a good spin!! If only I had a spare HD to install to... I'd really like to run with this one for a good long while. Thumbs way up! Smile

This distro's popularity appears to be increasing, and I can see why. Heck, even Dedoimedo might like this one! Laughing

Bob


I've just installed MX 16.1, and was grateful for Bob's post above as it allowed me to customise MX to my liking (or at least experiment with it). It's also got a utility called "Snapshot" which enables the user to create a bootable image of their system as it is at any given time, and so preserve it for the future if anything happens to the hard drive.

All in all, an impressive amount of work's gone into this distro, and it's well worth a look.

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roadkill13

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2017, 03:10    Post subject:  

Raspbian x86 06.22.2017 rpd edition. Installed to internal drive on my Asus Eee pc 901.

System: Host: raspberry Kernel: 3.16.0-4-686-pae i686 (32 bit)
Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.5.2) Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 8
Machine: System: ASUSTeK product: 901 v: x.x
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: 901 v: x.xx
Bios: American Megatrends v: 2103 date: 06/11/2009
CPU: Single core Intel Atom N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
Clock Speeds: 1: 1599 MHz 2: 1599 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1024x600@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2
Audio: Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.16.0-4-686-pae
Network: Card: Ralink RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:15:af:e6:83:46
Drives: HDD Total Size: 12.1GB (47.0% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: ASUS size: 4.0GB
ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ASUS size: 8.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 6.4G used: 4.1G (67%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sdb1
ID-2: /home size: 3.7G used: 295M (9%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb2
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 69.0C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 1770
Info: Processes: 117 Uptime: 1:03 Memory: 244.8/2015.3MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.1.28

Added Pianobar and MPS-Youtube player. Has Chromium with pepper flash. Works very well.
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belham2

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2017, 17:22    Post subject: BunsenLabs Deuterium amd64 Apr 2017 release  

Hi all,

Have been using this crunchbang successor the past week when setting up my pups for frugal install, and also to get a more in-depth idea of how I would like openbox and tint2 to look & function together if I put another pup-build together.

The BunsenLabs gang have done a nice job, and this latest "Hydrogen Deuterium amd64" release (put out in Apr 2017) is quite nice to use. It is Openbox with tint2 all on top of Debian Jessie stable with the latest version of the battle-tested 3.16-series kernel. Installation was easy, to a partition, and they've even developed a great script that pops up on first overall boot that will help a noob add essential things to and also mod their system all by simply answering questions via mouse-clicks.

Best way to describe this Deuterium is by pics. BL has pretty much fleshed out the openbox menu to the fullest. But yet they did not overburdened or junked-up the overall system----instead, they've made it super easy to customize and install whatever you want straight from right-clicking in the openbox menu (of course, you still get synpatic). Also, since the distro is debian-based, if it matters to you things like immediate dual monitor recognition, and redshift functioning immediately, are a given.

Anyhow, here's some pics. Focused on the right-click menus of openbox, to give you some idea how they've set it up overall. Hope you enjoy them:
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Colonel Panic


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 05:36    Post subject:  

I've now installed AntiX 16.2 (32-bit edition), and on top of that,the FVWM-Crystal window manager which goes with it really well. I would assign either a button or a menu to the action of clicking the middle mouse button on the desktop, but otherwise I feel FVWM-Crystal is close to being the perfect window manager, along with WindowMaker.

Overall though, I remain very impressed with AntiX as a distro. It's a lightweight distro for older computers, and yet it not only looks good but it's fully featured enough that you don't feel there's a lot missing when you use it; just like Puppy, in fact. Since it has the huge Debian repos to draw on, it's easy to add any programs it doesn't have; I've added Osmo, PortaBase and Qalculate so far.

Belham, I tried BunsenLabs Deuterium and it looked good but I couldn't get it to install; maybe it was a bad burn.

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 12:02    Post subject:  

That Bunsen Labs distro looks like my puppy Belham.

Nice clean looks and right clicks etc. Tint 2 and open box is a good combo! (IMO).
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infromthepound

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PostPosted: Wed 19 Jul 2017, 18:53    Post subject:  

[quote="

Belham, I tried BunsenLabs Deuterium and it looked good but I couldn't get it to install; maybe it was a bad burn.[/quote]

Maybe you used helium instead. it's not inflamable.
JB
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Jul 2017, 20:36    Post subject: Other Distros  

I downloaded the net install iso for Stretch and used it to install to
a 128gb usb SSD

bill@office2:~$ inxi -b
System: Host: office2 Kernel: 4.9.0-3-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine: Device: desktop System: ACER product: Aspire M5620 v: R01-A4
Mobo: ACER model: G33T-AM v: 1.0 BIOS: American Megatrends v: R01-A4 date: 12/19/2007
CPU: Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1603/2403 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NVC1 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.6
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 126.3GB (12.6% used)
Info: Processes: 169 Uptime: 1:27 Memory: 523.3/7987.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
bill@office2:~$

I'm using my 32" TV as a monitor.

It's working nice so far.
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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul 2017, 16:01    Post subject:  

infromthepound wrote:


Maybe you used helium instead. it's not inflamable.
JB


LOL. Anyway, second time lucky; I deleted the old ISO and downloaded the 64-bit one, and that one installed to my hard drive with no problems.

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solex

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Jul 2017, 10:31    Post subject:
Subject description: Light Distribution (Very Unscientific) Comparison
 

Prior to updating to Slack Puppy 6.9.9.9 I wanted test a few other distributions on my Lenovo X61 with 8 MB RAM and a newly installed Samsung EVO 205 MB SSD

My analysis was not scientific at all by I tried to spend 2 to 3 days with each distribution and also downloaded the 'lightest' version of each.

-Linux Mint
-Manjaro
-Debian LXDE
-Solus
-Elementary OS
-Scientific Linux

I compared ease of setup and real world responsiveness particularly with browsing.

They all performed very well on the setup side, in terms of setting up printers Solus was the easiest.

My personal opinion was that Solus was the most polished but when installed it needed over 192 updates to the installed packages which would take over an hour to complete.

The nice thing about all of the OS's is that they recognized both monitors, laptop and 27" external. The only problem with all of them is by default it made my laptop the main monitor even though the lid was closed. Further to that I could not close the lid with out the system sleeping and there were no obvious options to turn off sleep mode with the lid closed.

Puppy on the other hand did not set the laptop display as the main monitor but allowed me to install and run with the lid closed, this happens to be my preference

In real world testing Puppy was by far the fastest, browsing in the other distributions was obviously slower

Puppy is installed for good on my new SSD Very Happy

Again big thank you to all who develop and support Puppy.
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rufwoof

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PostPosted: Sun 30 Jul 2017, 17:34    Post subject:  

Debian Jessie standard with xorg, fluxbox (windows manager), Eterm, pcmanfm (file manager and desktop icons)


(clickable thumbnail)

Nice and lightweight/fast, easy to configure.

650MB main sfs ... that includes firefox, libre office ... etc.
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Aug 2017, 02:03    Post subject: Other Distros  

I tried installing Stretch 9.1 on my HP which has AMD Radeon graphics
but it didn't support the card properly so I downloaded Xubuntu
16.04.3 and installed that.

Xubuntu is working great.
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