Other Distros

[nooby]

thanks

[paokman]

I installed Debian 6.0.5 to be my second distro alongside Puppy 5.3.3.
I've been playing around with it for some days and it seems to have the same problem as all the Linux distros I've ever tried. It doesn't have the proper (? )OpenGL drivers for my Ati Radeon Xpress 1100 (it's a laptop chipset on my ACER TravelMate 5511 AWLMi)...
I think it's either a kernel issue or a mesa driver problem... I can't find a solution...

[starhawk]

Over at Google Groups, very clever people have ported Ice Cream Sandwich to x-86 platforms. From the generic port, there are offshoots specific to a variety of netbooks (the Asus EEE, others including my machine, the Lenovo S10-3t).

<snip>

I'm actually downloading this now... specifically the ISO for ASUS Eee PCs. Mine is a 1000HEB... fun fact, the first non-Windows OS ever to run on it was Jemimah's Puppeee. (A pity I didn't save it -- it was rather fun the first time around!) Alas, no idea of /which/ Pupeee/Puppeee it was (I've heard that there are two different versions, with two different spellings).

...James C, you still haven't told me what that wallpaper is in DSL I did ask about that!

[ally]

@starhawk

the puppeee downloads are still available here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/Pu ... uppeee1.0/

i've only recently discovered the eee and have tried quite a few disto's and think puppeee1.0 is the best by far....

[James C]

...James C, you still haven't told me what that wallpaper is in DSL I did ask about that!

You mean this one?It's attached....

[starhawk]

That's it! Thank you!

...BTW, original source is here --> http://gpedde.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2qdfvr

Just took a little googling to find it. BTW, to get an image from dA, right-click the "download" button and tell your browser to "open link in new tab" Much easier than messing with popup windows IMO.

EDIT: gee, those URL tags never appear on their own over here... wonder why...

EDIT2: d'oh! Thanks for the link, ally!

[James C]

Just downloaded the original from Deviant Art,zipped it up and was uploading it as you posted.Glad you found it.

[starhawk]

Nothin hard, just a little google work

Glad you posted what you had, or I wouldn't've found it at all.

...tried out Android-x86 and I have to say I'm rather a bit disappointed. I'm not sure whether it was my netbook's hardware, or Android itself, but I couldn't connect to the 'Net. From what little info Android would give me, it appears that something went wrong between our MiFi4620L (where the Internet comes in) and the netbook with IP address issuing, but I've no clue what or how to fix it.

Of course, Android with no Internet connection is a lot like a car with no wheels. Can't do much with it.

So out it goes.

[James C]

More distrohopping.......

[starhawk]

Nice and clean...

...but I really hope you like the color green with that distro!

[nooby]

Just for the fun to see if it worked.
I downloaded the iso and made
an iso frugal boot of Kiwi Linux

title kiwilinux frugal iso boot
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /kiwilinux.iso
kernel /kiwilinux/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/kiwilinux.iso splash --
initrd /kiwilinux/casper/initrd.lz

It is a version of Ubuntu that has many codex
already installed from scratch. It has Chromium
Browser and it could see streaming video
without any need to install Adobe Flash.

Video clips on youtube and on my NTFS HD worked too.
I could delete things without being root and did not need sudo.

But that maybe makes it vulnerable to exploits. I know too little.

Latest Ubuntu has changed how it boot so it fails to use that code.

But kiwi worked well. http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07437

[cthisbear]

nooby:

Test this for kooliepup....>>> CAELinux 2011

I sent it to him....but there are problems.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=80664

He can't install it.

I don't think he would mind me releasing this part of his email.

" Boots to live desktop after an incredible amount of seeking, and a
lot of the progs run.

Install fails at 45% on 3 machines, again after constant seeking
for many minutes.
Can't copy or mount the disc no matter what I try. "

So how about it mate.
You are the installation specialist.

This one should be right up your alley.

Regards....Chris.

[nooby]

Chris you understand such things better than what I do.

Very odd I edited this file but my text did not make it

Anyway I did dl but the 2008 version unfortunately that where
a Debian version and such doesn't boot on NTFS only on
Linux partitions.

so I give up on this one. But Sickgut has long experience of
booting Debian frugally his Pussylinux do boot frugally
so maybe one could make use of his way of doing it?

Unless kooiepup love to be full install.

Old text follows below

Like you say here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 117#650117

" CAELinux 2011 is only available in 64bit version,
this means that you will absolutelly need an X86_64 compatible CPU
to run this version.

Most recent Intel and AMD CPUS are 64 bit :
for example Intel Core2Duo or Core2Quad, Core i3, i5, i7
and XEON 64 bit or AMD Athlon 64, Athlon X2, Athlon FX, Phenom,
and Opteron.

Please note that most Intel CoreDuo (not Core2Duo),
Atom and Pentium 4 are NOT 64 bit compatible!
Please check your hardware compatibilty first!!
Using a 64 bit OS is necessary to use more than 2Gb RAM per application and thus allows for large "industrial scale" simulation capabilities.

If your CPU is not 64 bit, you can still use our previous release CAELinux 2008 which is available in both LiveDVD and VMWare virtual machine version: see this page for more information on CAELinux 2008. "

I have a 64bit computer Compaq Sr5622SC

google suggests

Processor
AMD Athlon X2 4450e
Figure 2: AMD Athlon X2 logo
Image of AMD logo

Operating speed: Up to 2.3 GHz
Number of cores: 2
Socket: AM2
Bus speed: 2000MT/s

Processor upgrade information
Socket type: AM2+
Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:

Phenom with Quad Core (Agena) technology (AM2+) up to 9600 (up to 95 watt TDP)
Athlon64 X2 with Dual Core technology up to 5600+ (up to 89 watt TDP)
Athlon64 less than 4000+
Sempron less than 3800+

I don't get much out of that. So much to think through.
My ADHD make a blur out of all the details to consider.

But the most important thing to take in is that most OS
are not made for frugal install. I am too lazy to try a DVD
or USB install for to help kooliopup.

I am not even sure if he do trust my willingness.
His and my trackrecord of exchanges feels
like he does not really trust me Which is
not what I do either. Those time that I manage
to boot anything is more pure luck than any real
know how.


distroWatch says this about it
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=cae

Sometimes such ubuntu versions can boot frugal but
some of them have change the boot procedure enough
to only boot on CD/DVD or USB.

I can maybe see if it download fast then maybe I give it a try.
But I am not optimistic at all. Out of ten Ubuntu varieties maybe
3or 4 have booted the way Kiwi did. Ubuntu 2012 did not boot.

The good thing with my cheat boot is that one don't need DVD or USB
and that one can install from HD partition to other HD partition.

I did that with LM11 in frugal to a full install in usb and it worked.

The link you have in that other post says it take 24 hours and the
speed where 43 kb / sec So I took home the 2008 32 bit instead
to see if that one boots on my netboot? Download 8 minutes so that is okay

I will only do a fast boot and not try to tweak any boot options just
look for what it says as error. I get back within 30 to 60 minutes
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[smokey01]

I had a look at KiwiLinux and it was quite nice.

I didn't see anything it could do that Puppy couldn't. It is much bigger and a lot slower than Puppy though.

Puppy still wins in my opinion.

[nitehawk]

I didn't see anything it could do that Puppy couldn't. It is much bigger and a lot slower than Puppy though.

Puppy still wins in my opinion.

Ya,...same here. I HAVE to use Debian on my main computer though. That's because my grandson says I have to (it has all the "neat games" he says). Otherwise,...I just go with a Puppy on my other computers. I just don't see the point in running a distro with so much stuff,.. that I don't usually use in the first place. Not to mention (as you said) most other distros are so slooow when compared to a Puppy.

[bark_bark_bark]

I notice that the only Distro that runs Web browsers truly fast is: Puppy Linux. All the other Distros (I tested) on a PC with the same specs runs slow.

Edit: The only other distro I use is TinyCore, it's very easy to install and it's packages are smaller than the big distros' versions.

[gcmartin]

I notice that the only Distro that runs Web browsers ... .

I not sure is you are proposing something or not. But, as for some limited understanding that I have, this might help should you be using one/some other distros.

Puppy advances are due to its ability to use RAM as a part of its file-system; this is apparent for those of us who use Live media (and some frugal) as our primary system's operations. This is one of the main reasons why I continue to operate Live media.

Understanding this, have you wondered what would happen to the browser performance should you make the browser's profile use a RAM drive you use/create? I think this is easy and I also think that with the lazy-write approach that is use by most Linux, the profiles location could be "mirrored" to a real media device such that all browser location movements would be captured on a permanent basis should you need.

Hope this helps

[Colonel Panic]

I didn't see anything it could do that Puppy couldn't. It is much bigger and a lot slower than Puppy though.

Puppy still wins in my opinion.

Ya,...same here. I HAVE to use Debian on my main computer though. That's because my grandson says I have to (it has all the "neat games" he says). Otherwise,...I just go with a Puppy on my other computers. I just don't see the point in running a distro with so much stuff,.. that I don't usually use in the first place. Not to mention (as you said) most other distros are so slooow when compared to a Puppy.

Yeah, true although the Slack-based distros such as Vector are fast enough for most of what I want to do.

I haven't found another distro yet which runs Wine (for my Windows programs) as well as Puppy does either. I'm thinking of trying OpenSUSE next to see if Wine runs any better on it but I know it has a reputation for being slow.

[nitehawk]

Yeah, true although the Slack-based distros such as Vector are fast enough for most of what I want to do.

...oh,...I absolutely LOVE a Slack-based distro! I found that Salix runs really well on my old stuff,...except for one little tiny, but important problem.
I can't seem to figure out how to get it to do dialup. I went to their wiki site,..and it sounded pretty complicated to me (my eyes started blurring over, and my mind started shutting down just reading all the instructions). I finally said,..."what-the-heck"!!! I can get dialup to work in any Puppy right off the bat,..so why bother with Salix.

And my CD of VectorLinux 7 seems to have gotten damaged or corrupted in some way,...so I can't get it to install anymore. <alas!>

[nooby]

I feel so dense. Slax I have booted very many okay 4 or 5 or so

I have never ever booted Slack and don't trust it can be booted frugally
while Slax can.

What is the difference? Is it only the attitude of the Devs?
Porteus works good.