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L18L · Last edited by L18L on Tue 05 Jul 2011, 13:59; edited 3 times in total

Thank you,
it will take some time on my 1.5GHz, now I will logout.

Edited 2011-07-05
There are some marginal differences in size.
# pwd
/mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+wary511q+warysave.3fs/root/test686/686/usr/bin
# ls -l
total 464
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108724 2011-06-26 15:44 advdef
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 129536 2011-06-26 15:44 advmng
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 96448 2011-06-26 15:44 advpng
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 118248 2011-06-26 15:44 advzip
#
# pwd
/mnt/+initrd+mnt+dev_save+wary511q+warysave.3fs/root/test686/386/usr/bin
# ls -l
total 464
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108724 2011-06-26 15:32 advdef
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 129472 2011-06-26 15:32 advmng
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 96448 2011-06-26 15:32 advpng
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 118052 2011-06-26 15:32 advzip
#

i386 is making smaller files Exclamation

L18L

SimpleWater · Joined: 19 Apr 2011 Posts: 95

Not to be a downer or anything, but does this method not provide more work? Would it not be easier if you could do something like "pur build http://website.org/source.tgz"? Or what about a script that makes a build script?

Iguleder · Posted: Wed 29 Jun 2011, 15:41 Post subject:

No, of course not... how can you make the computer able to understand what a sources tarball contains? How is the script supposed to determine the package in the tarball and how to build it?

And what if it needs some patching or special care to be built correctly? Idea

And if you want a script that generates build scripts - build a robot that resembles the human brain and spirit perfectly. Then program the AI Laughing

Iguleder · Posted: Thu 30 Jun 2011, 16:25 Post subject:

Just to let you know, guys - I'm working on an improved version of the whole thing. This one is safer and smarter in many areas.

I also wrote an Opera build script, which makes a package from the official Opera installer - quite useful for keeping the system clean.

Here's what the new aterm build script looks like:

noryb009 · Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 511

Great start, Iguleder!

I found a bug: Open the GUI, and immediately click and hold the scrollbar. Once it's done loading all the scripts, let go. The packages added to the list while you had the scroll bar held would have $something as the version
I only tested it on the first opening, on lupu 520.

A few suggestions:
- with the GUI, open a terminal window with minimal output (downloading, building, etc.)
- have an "Update scripts" command - much easier then making a new version
- warn about approximate size of download/space used after install
- option to install, make a pet, or both (or at least run tgz2pet on the .tgz file)

It's looking good, keep it up!

Iguleder · Posted: Fri 01 Jul 2011, 01:48 Post subject:

I rewrote the whole backend, now I also want to write a script called "installpkg" and form a mini-package manager, for two reasons:
- PPM ruins packages by modifying .desktop files, it makes menus ugly on DEs and full-blown WMs, especially E17
- I want to utilize XZ compression instead of the traditional gzip

Regarding package update, the algorithm needed to update a package is simple:

jpeps · Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 2421

I think it's a great idea to have a central depository of build scripts for the community.

Iguleder · Posted: Sat 02 Jul 2011, 01:50 Post subject:

Good news, "installpkg" and "removepkg" are implemented. Still not heavily tested, but I've managed to install and remove aterm successfully.

Now it's time to rewrite the GUI and add more build scripts Smile

EDIT: the new GUI is here; see the changes Smile

L18L · Posted: Tue 05 Jul 2011, 12:44 Post subject: Puppizard 004

Iguleder · Posted: Tue 05 Jul 2011, 13:29 Post subject:

That happens for a good reason, the Aterm build script ovverides rxvt/urxvt for compatibility.

Once you remove Aterm, you have no terminal emulator.

noryb009 · Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 511

Looking a little better!

A few things you might want to add:

- check if the files are already downloaded
- have some way to list the scripts from the command line
--- maybe be able to search?
- When using the GUI, it doesn't start downloading/compiling until after you close the message box. Can you start them at the same time?
- A way to update packages from a central repository

How do we submit scripts? Just post them here?

Iguleder · Posted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 14:25 Post subject:

Yep! They're yours. You can even post them at the PETs thread if that's acceptable.

Regarding the bugs - I'll do a bug-hunting round this weekend. Thanks for reporting!

noryb009 · Joined: 20 Mar 2010 Posts: 511

Just a question, how are you going to do (large) dependencies?

Iguleder · Posted: Thu 07 Jul 2011, 14:59 Post subject:

No dependency handling at all. The base assumption is that this tool is supposed to be simple enough to make it clear enough for users that package X depends or Y, or simple have only packages that don't have extra dependencies.