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#1171 Post by str4y »

don570 wrote:
..and I now have given Puppy a central structure
to help users store their data neatly.

{image of rox window with the big honking folder icons}
I have never comprehended who would want folder icons that big. In the pup derivative I'd hoped to get the time to assemble, (which it's looking increasingly like I won't get to soon, hence I'm starting to pass my many strong opinions on to the forum..) my OotB settings for Rox would definitely be Small Icons, Detailed List view. Maybe I'm just not organized enough, having directories with scads and scads of files in them instead of super deep, subdivided levels of directory structure. Glad the setting of thumbnails-view got changed eventually-- my directories are usu. so full it takes awhile just to display them without the consarned thumbs.

And as for creating structure for us.. well suffice it to say, for my part, one of the 1st things I would do with my Winbloze machines was to rename the "My so-and-so" directories and definitely choose somewhere else to put stuff. Ever security-conscious, that surely was the 1st place intruders (corporations' software mostly I presume) would go to snoop on my bidness.

Just my $.02USD (worth less and less every day..)

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#1172 Post by 01micko »

direct download to pupradio-0.10

Fixed thanks to Richard
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#1173 Post by 01micko »

rerwin wrote: EDIT:
playdayz, 01micko,
Before you go very far, please elaborate on the nature of gnome-mplayer's failure to play "videos". I have encountered no problem playing a DVD, and six test files from ubuntu:
Richard
  • test.avi
    testing.mp3
    testing.wma
    test.mov
    test.mpg
    test.wmv
My solution still seems cleanest. Please be sure to rule out another cause for the failure. Please don't "rearrange the world" yet, in case we don't have the complete story on the failure. BTW, sending everything to /dev/null would then drop real error messages, too
Richard
Ah, just spotted the edit.

Yeah, sending to /dev/null is definitely not the cleanest way to code, pupradio is an early attempt by me to make a gui app, I have only fixed blatant bugs, never really developed the app. Frankly, it's not at the top of my priorities right now.

The trouble with supporting multiple players (pupradio supports vlc, xine and gxine too) is that all the options are different.
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#1174 Post by rerwin »

01micko,
I wrote:EDIT: OK, I found a case where gnome-player is impacted. It is while running videos in puptelly (Nasa, Australian Parliament) with gnome-mplayer selected as the player, instead of mplayer.. The audio comes through but the video part of the stream does not appear. Maybe it is gnome-mplayer's problem.
I do want you to know that I am delighted to see pupradio/telly in lupu! I have been wondering how I would access all the video and radio sources around. Pupradio seems to be the gateway I was hoping for. Mplayer on it works great. I like the immediate use of full screen.

I am about to check out the new version. In looking through it, I see two different "pupradio" scripts in /usr/sbin and /usr/local/pupradio. That could be confusing. How are they related?
R

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#1175 Post by 01micko »

Hi Richard

Thanks for the compliment :)

The one in /usr/sbin is the calling "wrapper". I added it after mcewanw (precord dev) requested that I add some commandline switches for pupradio. The main switch is '-p' which plays the last radio station selected so you can run pupradio without GUI. I probably should have renamed /usr/local/pupradio/pupradio to /usr/local/pupradio/pupradio.sh to avoid that confusion.

One thing on my 'todo' list (which will take some time :) ) is to research multi user integration in puppy and implement something more robust and conventional than 'fido'. I don't agree with Barry's approach of fido's home dir being /root. Pupradio will then serve a purpose for me as "guinea pig" app so that I can figure out the correct way to get everything working with the user's $HOME. Then I will "develop" pupradio,... as I said, will be awhile though.

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#1176 Post by playdayz »

Luci-268 What's not there!

1. Rox Right-click Full screen with mplayer is removed. Gnome-mplayer plays full screen See note on mplayer.

2. Rox Right-click Extract deb is removed (though I know that pemasu worked hard on it). After i used it Rox had trouble opening some of the created archives. Not that many people need to extract debs and they can Open the archive and extract.

3. pprocess 2.2.2 and 2.2.3 are sending unending messages to xerrs.log. Zigbert is out of pocket somewhere it seems. pprocess 1.0 is in Luci-268. I can test at home b fore the release of Lucid 5.2.7 if Zigbert makes a 2.2.4.

4. The drive icon overlay is very pretty but it seemed to significantly slow the opening of some drives. We can feature it as a pet in LupuNews.

5. The rewrite of numlock is not there. It is not worth the risk to make a change when there hasn't been a problem, imho.

6. PupRadio is not there. I had just uploaded luci-268 when I saw 01micko's posting of a revised PupRadio. The pet looked good to me. It is on the previous page and it looks like another coming soon.. I can do testing at home before the Lucid 5.2.7 release. I will post the tests.

Note on mplayer. I believe mplayer expects to run with a front end now. Look at the command line that gnome-mplayer sends--it seems to me that we should be careful unless we can do it that well. "Being careful" means using gnome-mplayer.

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mplayer -profile gnome-mplayer -vo x11 -vf-pre yadif,softskip,scale -vf-add screenshot -af-add export=/tmp/mplayer-af_exportfivyiv:512 -quiet -slave -noidle -noconsolecontrols -nostop-xscreensaver -identify -volume 100 -softvol -osdlevel 0 -delay 0.000000 -subdelay 0.000000 -subpos 0 -sub-fuzziness 0 -wid 0x1c00021 -brightness 0 -contrast 0 -hue 0 -saturation 0 -nomsgcolor -nomsgmodule -nokeepaspect -ass -embeddedfonts -ass-font-scale 1.00 -ass-color ffffff00 /mnt/sdb1/Media Test/wheeliesorensonvideo2cbr.mov
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#1177 Post by rerwin »

01micko,
I am running the new pupradio and still have the "really-quiet" option set in the .conf. Same misbehavior as before but this time I checked dmesg and find that gnome-mplayer segfaults, which explains the misbehavior.
gnome-mplayer[31999]: segfault at 5f44000c ip b6b508d9 sp b065acfc error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[b6ae4000+153000]
gnome-mplayer[1593]: segfault at 7361000c ip b6c278d9 sp b0731cfc error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[b6bbb000+153000]
gnome-mplayer[1885]: segfault at 7361000c ip b6bf38d9 sp b0efecfc error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[b6b87000+153000]
gnome-mplayer[19759]: segfault at 0 ip b6e0a598 sp bf95af20 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.0[b6dcc000+c8000]
gnome-mplayer[20789]: segfault at 0 ip b6f23598 sp bfc5ada0 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.0[b6ee5000+c8000]
gnome-mplayer[21516]: segfault at 0 ip b6e1b598 sp bfc4d160 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.0[b6ddd000+c8000]
gnome-mplayer[22936]: segfault at 0 ip b6f67598 sp bfbf28b0 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.0[b6f29000+c8000]
gnome-mplayer[25043]: segfault at 0 ip b6ef4598 sp bfd33300 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.0[b6eb6000+c8000]
gnome-mplayer[26063]: segfault at 0 ip b6fca598 sp bfd53340 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.0[b6f8c000+c8000]
gnome-mplayer[1277]: segfault at 0 ip b6e4b598 sp bfbd4b10 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.0[b6e0d000+c8000]
Another avenue to pursue. Or not.

EDIT: Regarding your fix (in next posting), that sounds perfect. Thank you. R
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#1178 Post by 01micko »

hmmm....

Seems I can make a very simple fix. I get no errors in xerrs.log if I use gnome-mplayer in pupradio.

I'll just add the --really-quiet option to $OPT for mplayer only ala playdayz for the video side, and make a new ROPT variable for the radio side. Won't take long. Then I can remove the /dev/null suppression :)
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#1179 Post by playdayz »

Seems I can make a very simple fix. I get no errors in xerrs.log if I use gnome-mplayer in pupradio.
No errors for me either using gnome-mplayer *except* if gnome-mplayer is still playing when I hit the Quit button in PupRadio soemthign goes bad and gnome-mplayer stops responding. If I quite gnome-mplayer before hitting quit in PupRadio, then no problem.

I guess you saw my post about playing WA-FM with mplayer from the command line with the -really-quiet option. No errors there either.

Thanks for working on this Mick. There's no hurry now--we have a few days before the 5.2.7RC.

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intel 82845G and 5.26

#1180 Post by cowboy »

and I see I just missed the 5.2.8! Anyway, with my Intel 82845G chip, 526 was running well. Got desktop first book, set numlock, and accepted the default settings for monitor.

Sound present on first boot, and persistent on 5 reboots. That was always a challenge with 5.2.5.

Desktop stable through 5 reboots, downloaded firefox 3.6.13 and flash, and watched some BBC news videos without trouble.

Computer
Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Memory 506MB (129MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Wed 03 Aug 2011 07:29:14 PM GMT-8
Display
Resolution 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4

Display
Resolution 1024x768 pixels
Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version 1.7.6
Monitors
Monitor 0 1024x768 pixels

PCI Devices
Host bridge Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
VGA compatible controller Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
USB Controller Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
USB Controller Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
USB Controller Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
USB Controller Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
PCI bridge Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
ISA bridge Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
IDE interface Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
SMBus Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
Multimedia audio controller Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
Ethernet controller National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller
Communication controller Agere Systems LT WinModem (rev 02)
Ethernet controller Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
FireWire (IEEE 1394) NEC Corporation uPD72874 IEEE1394 OHCI 1.1 3-port PHY-Link Ctrlr (rev 01) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])

looking good fellas. thank y'all.
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#1181 Post by playdayz »

I get no errors in xerrs.log if I use gnome-mplayer in pupradio.
My theory now is that those are not errors, even though they are written to xerrs.log, unless that makes them errors by definition ;-) Yes, we do want to get rid of them. I think they are information from mplayer that the frontend can use, for instance, as gnome-mplayer does to report on the percentage of cache fill.

One can see in the mplayer command line above that gnome-mplayer send the -quiet option, but that is still more info than we want.

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#1182 Post by James C »

Quick manual frugal install on my main Athlon XP box.Everything working on boot as usual.


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 268

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
30896 frames in 5.0 seconds
30397 frames in 5.0 seconds
31639 frames in 5.0 seconds
30767 frames in 5.0 seconds
30071 frames in 5.0 seconds
30355 frames in 5.0 seconds

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#1183 Post by playdayz »

Quick manual frugal install on my main Athlon XP box
Thanks JamesC. It is always good to get your quicker than quick feedback.

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Lucid Puppy Luci-268

#1184 Post by yarddog »

created luci-268 iso from lucid 526 iso and delta files 526-268

Live cd booted just fine - sound working properly and ethernet set up correctly

did quick full install to ext4 partition and rebooted. Very fast on startup
added my usual pets from save bucket and everything working great so far

Good Job!

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#1185 Post by scsijon »

I admit I haven't looked into it, but what version of Gnome are we using, is it Gnome3 and if so could that be part of the problem?

I notice that even Linus Torvalds is less than happy with Gnome3 and wants a fork back to Gnome2. (comments like “Could you also fork gnome, and support a gnome-2 environment? I want my sane interfaces back. I have yet to meet anybody who likes the unholy mess that is gnome-3.

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#1186 Post by bigpup »

Wallpaper for consideration.
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#1187 Post by James C »

Installed the new and improved PupRadio, tried both PupRadio and PupTelly in both MPlayer and Gnome MPlayer...... no messages in xerrs.log.

Used Dillo for a couple of minutes and got 13,000 lines though...... :lol:

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#1188 Post by Sage »

Little bit of polish for 268?
- the panel to select default browser isn't popping up any more? Dillo or bust?
- nluug hasn't been re-introduced into the list of d/l sites
- some ambiguity when clicking the little firewall tray icon
- please note: I am not engaging in my usual ploy of provoking Americans by suggesting GMT of the Greenwich, London, England, UK be used for location/k-b/w.h.y. defaults. Just think it would be a very nice idea to make Peranjori the default, esp. as this will not entail any changes to the default timezone setting! This one belongs to Oz!

FULL upgrade seems a lot less than satisfactory. Loads of previous version stuff is retained, even when subsequently fixed/updated/upgraded. Prime example is the tray sound icon showing x-out when retrovol actually works, corrected by previous fixes. This is a tough call in compact distro and I have another HD to install a new FULL - this is just a testing HD. The code seems unable to decide what to keep, what to delete. This doesn't happen with the major distros, but then...

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#1189 Post by aarf »

startmount with nag screenswitched off doesnt mount drive until you symlink the /root/.startmount/mount-drives.sh to /root/startup
mick0 knows about this or i have pointed it out before

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#1190 Post by 01micko »

aarf wrote:startmount with nag screenswitched off doesnt mount drive until you symlink the /root/.startmount/mount-drives.sh to /root/startup
mick0 knows about this or i have pointed it out before
yeah sorry aarf, i haven't had a great deal of time.. however it is working for me (nag disabled) using a sata hard drive.. do you think it could be a usb drive issue?.. [anyways, best carry on in the startmount thread, probably too late for next lupu]
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