Puppy Squeeze Reborn 4.9.9.1 Alpha 2

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Iguleder · #61 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 15:07

I removed Opera and Flash from the repository, I want the next build to be free from proprietary stuff.

Working on a Firefox package at the moment.

pemasu · #62 Post by **pemasu** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 15:26

Iguleder. I would need DOTconfig of your uploaded alpha2 distro kernel.
I need it so that I can compile acpi_call module to shut down my dual graphics ATI. Keeping it alive makes my laptop uncomfortably hot.

Iguleder · #63 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 15:30

The last one is here. Woof is processing the beta packages at the moment, once it's done I'm gonna build a testing build with the recompiled kernel and Firefox.

edoc · #64 Post by **edoc** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 16:37

pemasu wrote:http://iguleder.info/puppy/dpup/squeeze-4.9.9.1-alpha2/.

To test on this laptop (it has dpup 009 now) and my netbook (has Fluppy 013 now) the most-recent (for at least a week) version is found at the link, above?

I will test and report back.

It is great news that Opera, Abiword, and Gnumeric will be outside of the distro. The more that is outside the better IMHO, because then problems are far easier to troubleshoot and upgrades more-simple to install. Can CUPS be kept outside of the distro as well? It has been a chronic problem for years and once it fails is often impossible to repair - short of a complete system reinstall - far too many hyper-sensitive dependencies and no discernible conflict-detection code.

BTW: Is there some sort of filter on the Forum now? If so it is malfunctioning. Only 1 of every three or so posts I make are showing-up.

Iguleder · #65 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 16:46

I think I'll leave the browser and the office stuff in for now, but I do intend to replace Opera with something free (as in speech). I'm compiling IceCat now and it kills my poor 'lil netbook.

I have a nice idea, though - I could write a small subset of Puppizard that installs browsers from their official binary distribution. This could work great for Firefox, Seamonkey, Chrome and Opera. Zero size and great choice.

edoc · #66 Post by **edoc** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 16:50

Iguleder wrote:I think I'll leave the browser and the office stuff in for now, but I do intend to replace Opera with something free (as in speech). I'm compiling IceCat now and it kills my poor 'lil netbook.

I have a nice idea, though - I could write a small subset of Puppizard that installs browsers from their official binary distribution. This could work great for Firefox, Seamonkey, Chrome and Opera. Zero size and great choice.

Sounds excellent!

Any chance MIdori with WebKit (includes a small Qt) and Arora might make it into that Web browser repository, along with Iceweasel?

Iceweasel kinda makes sense as it is a Debian project.

Midori has worked better than Seamonkey 2.0.14 for me.

What about an E-mail app to symlink to a free-standing Web browser?

I am unaware of anything small other than Claws-mail.

edoc · #67 Post by **edoc** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 17:12

Can someone explain the meaning of "SCSI" in the ISO file name, please?

http://iguleder.info/puppy/dpup/squeeze ... 1-SCSI.iso

Also, for a user-test (no plans to compile anything on a specific computer) is the devx necessary?

http://iguleder.info/puppy/dpup/squeeze ... .9.9.1.sfs

Iguleder · #68 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 17:42

The "SCSI" suffix is something Woof adds to ISOs that have SCSI drivers that allow booting from true SCSI drives, which are pretty much extinct now.

And no, you don't need the devx for regular usage, only to build stuff.

Regarding the browser issue, Webkit is huge and Midori is much bigger than Opera as far as I remember. Sylpheed is definitely the smallest e-mail client, so Sylpheed it is.

L18L · #69 Post by **L18L** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 17:51

Hi Iguleder,

I am thinking our ymount

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 3&start=11

can replace pmount now .

Cheers

pemasu · #70 Post by **pemasu** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 18:04

Iguleder. How do you execute the command to use your patches so that relevant files will be patched.

Jim1911 · #71 Post by **Jim1911** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 18:15

Frugal installation of alpha 2, on an ext4 partition. Impressive, looking forward to the beta. E17 will take some getting used to, what is the procedure for switching to JWM and then back to E17?

System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One

Iguleder · #72 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 18:18

pemasu, the build script is in the same directory as the sources. Take a look there, it's very simple.

You can automate the build as I did, just do:

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buildpkg /path/to/linux.sh

You can add "make menuconfig" or "read" just before the make call to get a fully patched source tree. By default, the kernel will be built under /tmp, see /etc/puppizardrc.

L18L: great work and excellent idea

EDIT: Jim1911 - exit Enlightenment (Enlightenment -> exit), then this:

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echo jwm > /etc/windowmanager
startx

sszindian · #73 Post by **sszindian** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 18:45

2 Questions?

(1) Xscreensaver works in most other versions of puppy, it 'DOSEN'T' in 499 Debian!
When you try to configure it, it says it cannot run as root but... try entering 'xhost +localhost' in terninal then re-run the daemon, that doesn't work either.
Is there a fix for this or not?

(2) It would be nice to see pwidgets display the new kernel # (2.6.30.3) instead of the old # once upgraded to 2.6.30.3, how do you do that?

499 is a very nice program, fastest I've used of all the puppy versions. The 2.6.30.3 kernel seems to do it!

On browsers, Iron-12 with the flash playdayz compiled seems to be the fastest, clearest, and most efficient of any I've tried so far!

Good luck on the new project here!

>>>---Indian------>

Iguleder · #74 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 18:49

sszindian wrote:(1) Xscreensaver works in most other versions of puppy, it 'DOSEN'T' in 499 Debian!

Click that little lock icon. If it doesn't work, delete /root/.xlockrc.

sszindian wrote:(2) It would be nice to see pwidgets display the new kernel # (2.6.30.3) instead of the old # once upgraded to 2.6.30.3, how do you do that?

Pwidgets has nothing to do with the kernel; and the kernel used in alpha 2 is 2.6.39.3. Pwidgets is Zigbert's work and he knows better how to fix it.

James C · #75 Post by **James C** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 19:32

Fresh manual frugal install of 4.9.9.1 on my main Linux box.Everything working on initial boot.Really like the way you have Enlightenment set up ootb.
Added Firefox 5.0.1,Htop, Hardinfo and a couple of other apps....no problems.

VIDEO REPORT: Puppy Squeeze, version 4.9.9.1

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (125MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 30 Jul 2011 02:44:26 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 2.6.39 (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jul 30 10:45:46 GMT-2 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.2 (stable)
Default C Compiler : Unknown
Distribution : Unknown distribution

jim3630 · #76 Post by **jim3630** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 19:55

pemasu wrote:About Jim3630 wireless wl module problem. Broadcom wl module is not included in any kernel. It is proprietary kernel driver module and it is not straightforward to compile and isntall it. I have used hacked source to compile it.
Also it needs script to disable b43 and ssb modules to be unloaded.

I attached the working script which goes to the /etc/init.d and that patched source I have been using.

So....compiling whatever newer kernel does not fix jim3630 wireless problem. It needs that proprietary driver and script to load it correctly is included.
Remove the phony DOTgz from the script and give it correct permissions after extracting, they are probably screwed.
I havent compiled that driver in 2.6.32 kernel so I dont know if that source works. To do that is somebody else job to find it......

That patched source is maybe for the newer kernels. I attach the original source also....

Pemasu thanks for the info it's good to hear from someone who knows what they are talking about.

DaveS · #77 Post by **DaveS** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 20:13

This is a great and promising project. The big question is... 'will it get finished or once again founder at beta stage?'

steevieb · #78 Post by **steevieb** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 20:34

Iguleder wrote:The "SCSI" suffix is something Woof adds to ISOs that have SCSI drivers that allow booting from true SCSI drives, which are pretty much extinct now.

..snip..

I now have 5 scsi drives in my machine, and 5 spares on the desk.
Just d/loaded the scsi iso, looking forward to trying it out.

nancy reagan · #79 Post by **nancy reagan** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 20:48

DaveS wrote:This is a great and promising project. The big question is... 'will it get finished or once again founder at beta stage?'

Maybe, almost at the end of the road "well I think I have a better idea ..."

pemasu · #80 Post by **pemasu** » Sat 30 Jul 2011, 20:56

Iguleder. I found the reason of mounted icon not shown. It is due to Barrys new pngoverlay function. There is now only one set of drive icons which pngoverlay and Barrys scripts handle, they create th circled drive icon with unmount x in the upper right.
Trinity icon set just does not handle that. They probably overdrive the Barrys settlement.
If you switch the icon set you notice that for example Bluestep Humanity drive icons behave as Barrys new invention wants. I can unmount by clicking that small x.

By the way. I downloaded your packages and posting now from fresh woof built dpup. Firefox as browser. 2.6.39.3 lupe28 kernel, which I compiled previously. I decided to use that so that I can use previously compiled acpi_call.
Usual gzip compression, 112 MB with Firefox, not bad.

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