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Puppy Squeeze Reborn 4.9.9.1 Alpha 2

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 14:57
by Iguleder
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Preamble

Puppy Squeeze started as an attempt to revive dpup by gposil, a long time ago. It was developed by a team of Puppy community members, notably dejan555, Stripe, stu90, tubeguy, DaveS, afgs, 01micko, Lobster, James C, ttuuxxx, Billtoo, Iguleder and others.

Dpup is basically a traditional Puppy, built from Debian packages from its “stable

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 15:41
by Jim1911
ISO has a bad link.

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 15:47
by jim3630
Jim1911 wrote:ISO has a bad link.
found that.

http://iguleder.info/puppy/dpup/squeeze-4.9.9-alpha1/

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 15:50
by ttuuxxx
Hi Iguleder
I take it that Squeeze is based on Barry's last Dpup release about 2 or so months back, If So did you figure out the devx? It wasn't so stable, and had issues compiling ffmpeg, at the time I managed to compile ffmpeg but it took a lot of work to do so.
Great job on the replacement apps, Most of those changes I usually do myself, nice to see others doing so also :)
As a music player goes DeaDBeeF was very large last time I compiled it, how large was the package you used?
also you stated "it lacks office applications and a video player." is that because of the devx or because you not including them or just to keep the size down. Really without a video player and word processor it does limit the usefulness out of the box. I use the Video player usually around 1000 to 1 word processor :) Can't say I even used abiword once this year, lol but others of course do use it daily, did you also remove Gnumeric, I've never used it yet, lol
I guess I should download it since I really like Debian puppy version way better than Ubuntu versions.
Thanks
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 15:54
by Iguleder
ttuuxxx wrote: It wasn't so stable, and had issues compiling ffmpeg,
It's fine here, I was able to build ffmpeg.

EDIT: forgot to mention, it's based on Puppy Squeeze. I used Barry's package list and modified a lot, so now it's pretty much what the original Puppy Squeeze had.
ttuuxxx wrote:As a music player goes DeaDBeeF was very large last time I compiled it, how large was the package you used?
230 KB :D
ttuuxxx wrote:is that because of the devx or because you not including them or just to keep the size down. Really without a video player and word processor it does limit the usefulness out of the box.
I think I'll use LibreOffice as an office suite (a separate SFS), because many users won't need Abiword and Gnumeric. I can build both, but I think it's a waste of time when LibreOffice is available.

Regarding a video player, I need to find time to build ffmpeg/mplayer of ffmpeg/xine, it takes time and I want the base to be good before I do that.

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 16:05
by DaveS
A Gnumeric package is required by those who already use it for mission critical stuff (me) :)
This does not look like the latest woof?

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 16:22
by Iguleder
You can use the Debian package; that's what Barry did in his dpup build. He used the Debian Abiword and Gnumeric - both worked great.

I'll try to build a small Abiword and see how far this gets.

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 17:40
by jim3630
hi, did frugal manual install to ext4 hdd. no support for my troublesome broadcom wl.ko driver. alternate ar9170usb recognized, configured, and connected after reboot. the os is very fast and with opera more so.

tried umplayer from squeezed thread.


# umplayer
umplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#

http://smokey01.com/stu90/lucid.puppy.p ... 0.95-1.pet

added mesa

# glxgears
1165 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.880 FPS
1516 frames in 5.0 seconds = 303.066 FPS
1535 frames in 5.0 seconds = 306.909 FPS
1519 frames in 5.0 seconds = 303.649 FPS
1496 frames in 5.0 seconds = 299.148 FPS
1517 frames in 5.0 seconds = 303.380 FPS

added hardinfo

-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6100 @ 2.00GHz
Memory : 2520MB (209MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 29 Jul 2011 10:59:02 AM PDT

Hardinfo did not make a menu entry when installed but called up via console without issue.

Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel


Do you have a broadcom wl.ko driver pet?

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 17:54
by Iguleder
I think you'll need a later kernel for this one. Not a problem, it's very easy to rebuild Squeeze with a new kernel since it uses a vanilla Woof.

Regarding the multimedia front, I'm trying to build a static mplayer2 at the moment, with ffmpeg compiled into it. Should be much smaller than a normal ffmpeg/mplayer combo. :)

EDIT: E17 is available here, but there's another small tweak required to get it working properly. I forgot to disable the Rox pinboard for E17 in /root/.xinitrc.

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 17:58
by stu90
Hi Iguleder,

I remember there been some xorgwizard issues with Barry's squeezed puppy - has this issue been ironed out in recent woof builds?

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=67988

cheers.

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 18:02
by Iguleder
No idea, actually. It works just fine here, with my Intel 3150.

In previous Woof versions the resolution detection thingy was messed up and showed every possible resolution and color depth, but now it seems to work.

EDIT: amazing! mplayer2 built just fine! :D

Gonna do another build, this time I'm gonna do it using a build script and aim at size.

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 18:53
by tubeguy
Yay!

More later. :wink:

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 19:04
by Jim1911
Hi Iguleder,

Your innovations continue to amaze me. So far, except for multimedia and ntfs support it looks good. Also, the realtek driver needed for my wireless computer isn't included.

Well done,
Jim

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 19:15
by Iguleder
Don't worry!

I just built GNOME-MPlayer and it works great. I'm doing another mplayer2 build in the background and a git checkout of the latest, since I want to try both.

I might upload something similar to playdayz' "EZ-Woof" once I get it stable enough, so people with trouble getting their wireless cards working can do a quick remix with another kernel that works.

EDIT: the ntfs-3g package is missing, only libntfs-3g was installed. Fixed! :)

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 19:26
by taca0
Its fast great !

some problems!

- Cups password problem
- Adobe Flash dont work with Opera, its not detected

I like the elimination of xload

for video player I test the Mplayer2 and works

Thanks!

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 19:30
by Iguleder
To use Flash, you'll need a couple of libraries from either Firefox or Seamonkey.

Do this:

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ldd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so | grep found
You can get those libraries from any PET or the official binary packages.

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 19:54
by jim3630
Iguleder wrote:I think you'll need a later kernel for this one. Not a problem, it's very easy to rebuild Squeeze with a new kernel since it uses a vanilla Woof.

Regarding the multimedia front, I'm trying to build a static mplayer2 at the moment, with ffmpeg compiled into it. Should be much smaller than a normal ffmpeg/mplayer combo. :)

EDIT: E17 is available here, but there's another small tweak required to get it working properly. I forgot to disable the Rox pinboard for E17 in /root/.xinitrc.

do you mean your changing kernels to one that will include the broadcom wl.ko driver?

on reboot lost wifi setting needing to reconfigure wlan0 with sns.

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 20:16
by Iguleder
Yep. The 2.6.39.3 kernel Barry built could solve your problem.

And SNS is Barry's responsibility. As I said - if we track down the bug, the fix gets merged into Woof. I'm against puplet-specific fixes :)

EDIT: almost got mplayer2 from git to compile, VESA output was broken and now Fribidi seems to be problematic. Last attempt before I'm off to take some good sleep :)

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 20:41
by edoc
Sounds promising ...

Have you evaluated the IceCat, Epiphany, or Arora Web browsers for this project?

Gnuzilla is the GNU version of the Mozilla suite, and GNU *IceCat* is the GNU version of the Firefox browser. Its main advantage is an ethical one: it is entirely free software. While the principal source code from the Mozilla project is free software, the distribution contains various problematic files, the EULA they require for use of their binaries is troublesome, and they distribute and recommend non-free software as plug-ins. In addition, GNU IceCat includes some privacy protection features ...

http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/

Epiphany is the web browser for the GNOME desktop. Its goal is to be simple and easy to use. Epiphany ties together many GNOME components in order to let you focus on the Web content, instead of the browser application

http://projects.gnome.org/epiphany/

Arora is a lightweight cross-platform web browser. It's free (as in free speech and free beer). Arora runs on Linux, embedded Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OS X, Windows, Haiku, and any other platforms supported by the Qt toolkit.

Arora uses the QtWebKit port of the fully standards-compliant WebKit layout engine. It features fast rendering, powerful JavaScript engine and supports Netscape plugins.

http://code.google.com/p/arora/

Posted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 20:48
by Iguleder
Arora depends on Qt, Epiphany depends on GNOME stuff and IceCat releases come some time after the official Mozilla ones, that's both a small security risk and a big annoyance since they started the version race :lol:

Anyway, Opera is much smaller and faster. But still, I'd like to do a Firefox/Seamonkey build just to see what you guys think.

By the way: meet our new friends, e17-svn29072011.pet, mplayer2-git29072011 and gnome_mplayer-1.0.4.pet :D