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#46 Post by Béèm »

I am more and more confused about dpup.
There is Barry's 4.99.2
There is Iguleder's 4.99.1, lower in version n° but maybe higher in functionality. I didn't check.
Iguleder was speaking about he wants to see a 5.0.0
Is this squeeze the one Iguleder is talking about?

If yes, why not have them in the same forum section?
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#47 Post by Béèm »

Bad things are happening.
I looked into the graphics driver again.
Went to the X prompt and did run xorg wizard.
This time I took choose and loaded the radeon driver having a radeon 7500 graphics card. I got the desktop.
BUT:
My keyboard is in qwerty and in spite I did run the keyboard wizard to choose the Belgian keyboard, it stayed in qwerty.
Not really exiting.

So back to the X prompt to choose the vesa driver.

I suppose I have benefit to run the radeon driver, but how to combine it with the Belgian keyboard?
The xorg.conf doesn't even contain a display/keyboard section, so I can't even force the keyboard this way.
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#48 Post by jim3630 »

spent some time today working in DebianEdu/Skolelinux which most know is just the debian education desktop ontop of knoppix fully updated to current squeeze stable version.

may not be apples to apples but this Dpup is light speed ahead. Pemasu it's flying.

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#49 Post by vanchutr »

Installed FRUGALLY with GRUB4DOS 1.7.
Boot up . I can choose Xvesa (easy)
Connect to Internet with USB-3G - success
Webbrowser Seamonkey 2.2 - runs fast
Thank you, Pemasu
(After me) - Best way is choosen JWM. (I don't like other WM! for many reason)
Loaded successful wine-1.3.25 with sfs_loader.

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#50 Post by jim3630 »

pemasu, Iguleder's puppizard dependancies are xz and Yad which you have. AdvanceCOMP and OptiPNG are recommended so you might consider adding them if you use it.


http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69248

Puppizard 07 in the repo is the lattest pet could find. Iguleder's work is inspiring.

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did new pfix=ram same install but added AdvanceComp, OptiPNG, puppizard 07, puppizard e17, puppizard scripts pets then Libroffice as before and no change. it went to ftp.osuosl.org for libroffice, same several minute stop creating the new file which is about 75M.

got it to work same method. /usr/share/applications/libreoffice-- has about 10 different Libroffice related desktop symlinks>show target>/opt/libreoffice3.4/xdg which has the desktops files> right click open as text >geany>clicked on execute entry on sidebar> line of code where %U is just delete it on all files, save, fixmenus, restart jwm. It works.
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#51 Post by pemasu »

Jim3630. Great that you got Libre Office working using Puppizard. That was quite an achievement. About optipng and advancecomp. They are needed after you have compiled an package and start to strip it. Iguleders strippkg needs those applications. And they are included in devx sfs already. You need devx sfs if you start to compile. So...I would say they are in right sfs.

Beem. Yes...it is confusing. So I gave different name choices. Pick the one you would like to call this one.

Dpup squeeze started when lenny was stable. It was project led by Iguleder. Then it stopped. Barry made squeezed puppy again when squeeze was stable.
You know the version number. Then Ttuuxxx woofed it and created thread for it. You posted into it about keyboard problems yesterday.

Now....Iguleder has awakened squeeze again. He has used much of his older squeeze specs before squeeze came stable. So...the approach is slightly different than in Barrys build.

This and Iguleders builds use the latest woof which also make these builds slightly different than Ttuuxxx build.

Mine and Iguleders build both use different kernels than Barrys/Ttuuxxx builds. We use 2.6.39.3 but Iguleder use his compile and I use my compile. My kernel is same than in Polarpup 003.

About version numbering. Iguleder has numbereded this version as 5.0.0. It is beta version. I have used specs of that 5.0.0.
So...Iguleder has quite big a lead on squeeze, I refer to his thread at first time before Barry gave a shot on squeeze. Squeeze is now stable and now the packages dont change. Thing are partly the same but some thing dont behave as they did when this squeeze started first time.

What should this be called. This is test version using Iguleders specs. We test this one, give feedback of thing which work and which dont. We try to improve this.
Where should I post. this one. This is puplet based on Iguleders post. I like to post puplets here. Iguleder still lead the project in Puppy project section.
It was just my choice to post it here. Anyway....This is still experimental project. I have posted my Ice Puppy experimental project also here. It lead finally to the 2.6.39.3 kernel when Barry started to solve our finding of non booting usb media and I conclude that project was success at last. I have now good specs for kernel.

I hope this experimental project gives information which benefit Iguleder in his squeeze saga and also gives he motivation to continue with it.

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#52 Post by jim3630 »

pemasu wrote:Jim3630. Great that you got Libre Office working using Puppizard. That was quite an achievement. About optipng and advancecomp. They are needed after you have compiled an package and start to strip it. Iguleders strippkg needs those applications. And they are included in devx sfs already. You need devx sfs if you start to compile. So...I would say they are in right sfs.

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I added to my above post while your posting. that's good to know.

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#53 Post by jim3630 »

I'd called it Northern Lights Dpup and keep it here with the rest of the herd.

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#54 Post by jim3630 »

dup

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#55 Post by jim3630 »

pemasu wrote:About optipng and advancecomp. They are needed after you have compiled an package and start to strip it. Iguleders strippkg needs those applications. And they are included in devx sfs already. You need devx sfs if you start to compile. So...I would say they are in right sfs.
Libroffice initial download tar.gz was 146m iirc then it created 2nd file 75M so wonder if puppizard having the two optipng and advancecomp auto stripped down the program?

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#56 Post by Iguleder »

The devx contains both. Run "advdef", "advpng" and "optipng" to be sure, these are the ones you need.

Yes, Puppizard strips all packages it encounters :)
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#57 Post by jim3630 »

Iguleder wrote:The devx contains both. Run "advdef", "advpng" and "optipng" to be sure, these are the ones you need.

Yes, Puppizard strips all packages it encounters :)
truly excellent.

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#58 Post by jim3630 »

universal installer misreads ext4 as ext3. do like xaos.

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#59 Post by James C »

Having an interesting early morning, booted up one of my old P3's.... a dual-boot with Windows 2000 and Antix 11.You guessed it, something is borked and Windows refuses to boot.Luckily Antix is still good so it's goodbye to Windows. :lol:
Needed to test Gparted and the installer anyway. :)

A couple of minutes later....full install of Squeeze on Ext3 is booting on an old P3. Report later.

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#60 Post by James C »

Full install on an old P3. No problems with Gparted or the installer. Everything working on initial boot.


VIDEO REPORT: Puppy Squeeze, version 5.0.0

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller (CGC)

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 512MB (94MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 01 Aug 2011 02:24:26 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2

VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82815 Chipset Graphics Controller
Multimedia audio controller : Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller
Ethernet controller : 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]

Using less than 40 mb of ram at idle....pretty impressive.
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#61 Post by pemasu »

Quick post from work. Puppy installer is sensitive of right type of extlinux, syslinux etc.., disktype and probably gparted also. It will need profound testing to get it recognizing the partitions right.
I have faced that problem in Snow Puppy/Ice Puppy development.
At this stage. Dont use Puppy installer if you have ext4 partition. Use manual installing or other tools.

Getting PUI working is not my top priority. I would like to update gparted first.

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#62 Post by Béèm »

pemasu,
Thanks for the explanation.
I understand now better this thread's title.
And what's going on.

The annoying thing is, that I can't combine the radeon driver with the Belgian keyboard. Same issue as in 4.99.2
I don't know enough about graphics drivers to evaluate the differences between the radeon and the vesa one.
But I can work as it is with the vesa one.
And if this is a one shot, no need to look into it, unless it interests you.

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# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Puppy Squeeze, version 5.0.0

Chip description:
oem: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 7500

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution:  Depth 24  Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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#63 Post by Ray MK »

Hi pemasu

Luvly Puppy - works well on my 9/10yr old Acer TravelMate 243LC.
Celeron 2.5Ghz proc. 256mb ram. 800ish mb swap partition.
Manual frugal to ext3.
booting via grub4dos. wifi via pcmcia Belkin card.

A small suggestion.
Adding grub4dos to the ISO would make it very easy for n00bs
to install to any media,
without having to re-size or create partitions on a first encounter with Puppy.

It seems to be reliable and a very easy way to setup booting from a
USB stick or an SDcard,
plus it eliminates the need for a n00b to worry about partitions and Gparted,
at least until a better understanding is acquired.

Alternatively, maybe a link to and a guide for grub4dos in the help page?

Anyway, a super Puppy - many thanks and much appreciation.

Very best regards - Ray

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#64 Post by peebee »

Hi pemasu (& iguleder)

Frugal install on my HP 550 laptop.

Love having Frisbee as the network manager - works great on this laptop.

Also congrats on FlSynclient working ATB to configure my synaptics touchpad

Seem to have a problem with PNethood - doesn't find my samba shares - and setting the scan time does not seem to make the scan any longer??

No grub4dos installed??

Clicking on the loudspeaker just mutes sound - can't change sound levels without going into mixer? (Sound is working BTW).

Looking really good....

Thanks for all your hard work and outstanding innovations.
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#65 Post by pemasu »

Thank you all of the feedback.
Beem. I cant say anything wise atm. But I wont forget your problem. Sometimes the problems have habit to find solution.

About included applications. I have got requests of xcompmgr, grub4dos, sfs load on the fly. Dave S would probably benefit that drivers and firmware tarballs are inside the main sfs. I will collect other wishes also.

Above suggestions are good and I will gladly include them to next version.
So far I will stick with Iguleders choice of sound tray application. But I noticed that lack of volume slider also. Iguleder reads this thread also, I think. He will notice that volume slider missing problem. I believe it is the default outlook of this application. I mean that you have to open the application before you get settings in hand.

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