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Iguleder · Posted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 00:43 Post subject:

That's everything Next has at the moment. The "scripts" directory has just the build scripts and you don't need them - I uploaded them so you can:
1) Build your own packages too
2) See how I made Next - I believe in openness and freedom of knowledge

There are many packages here, too.

EDIT: forgot to mention. This repository has just the packages used for Next, nothing more, nothing less. Barebones!

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9387 Location: SwedenEurope

Béèm · Posted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 13:42 Post subject:

Had a second look at it.
Activated my applications environment.
To have them execute I need to load sfs files.
So with petget I installed sfs load on the fly and with this I could load the sfs files I need.

My SeaMonkey 2.2 did run. Did start it from the command line in emelfm2.
My wine e-mail client did run also. Did start from the command line in emelfm2 also.
Pidgin didn't start as the library libgtkspell is needed.
I have the .deb file, but don't see how I can install it.

Also I didn't find yet how to start a script/application when in a emelfm2 window. single-click, double-click, right-click didn't work.

Didn't find either if it is possible to start applications by their .desktop file.

As said in my first post, there is a snappy feel.

Iguleder · Posted: Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:20 Post subject:

nooby - make sure you have no missing packages required for SFS-exec. And regarding Firefox packages - any package should work as long as it's built from the official binaries.

Aitch · Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 6825 Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9387 Location: SwedenEurope

Thanks, I guess I am too computer challenged to be able to use it but it was a cool experience to try out and I wish you luck with it.

Slacko most likely will be my "next" for a while.

Unless member seaside tell me how to get SFS-exec going on "Next".

Iguleder · Posted: Thu 18 Aug 2011, 01:35 Post subject:

I started working on an improved package builder, that automatically produces PET packages instead of directories containing the packages.

I want to be able to rebuild the whole Next repository in one click. I'm gonna improve the Window Maker build script to integrate Puppy menus, don't worry.

Regarding SFS-exec - read its requirements. Try to run it from the terminal.

edoc · Posted: Thu 18 Aug 2011, 09:49 Post subject:

Billtoo · Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1496 Location: Ontario Canada

I haven't been able to install the proprietary ati driver, I
downloaded your linux-2.6.39.4.tar.bz2 and installed it according to
the readme file but I got errors when I tried to install the driver.
The kernel source usually comes as an sfs file such as
kernel_src-2.6.39.3-patched-lupe27.sfs and can be loaded with the
bootmanager.
I installed xorg_high from lucid so xine and umplayer etc. are working
good but the proprietary driver would be better.

I'm enjoying next 5 and having fun getting it stocked up with my
favorite applications.

Thanks

Iguleder · Posted: Thu 18 Aug 2011, 14:41 Post subject:

First of all, I mentioned it again and again: do NOT install Xorg_High because it's already built-in and incompatible with the Lucid one.

And regarding the sources - I have no idea what you're talking about, you just need kernel_sources-2.6.39-4.sfs.

Billtoo · Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1496 Location: Ontario Canada

scsijon · Posted: Thu 18 Aug 2011, 20:30 Post subject:

just a note or three.....

1/for those who haven't and want to install pets, you can start the ppm by opening a console and typing ppm in it.

MAKE SURE YOU STICK TO DPET STUFF! OTHERS MAY SERIOUSLY STUFF IT UP AND REQUIRE TOTAL REINSTALLING

3/note that you will get some errors when installing pets and you need to check for dependancies and install them if needed, but most of the errors relate to the puppy menu systems, which of course is not installed and therefore are not using, so you can disregard.

2/you can change your window manager size by opening a console and typing

Iguleder · Posted: Thu 18 Aug 2011, 23:08 Post subject:

Yes, glxgears is part of what Lucid calls "Xorg_High" but it's not needed to have hardware acceleration, it's just a test program that wastes space.

And yeah, I'm for that kind of control, I'm working on the next build at the moment and it has automatically-generated menus but they don't comply to Puppy's menu structure so many things are missing, including the whole "Setup" menu, which isn't standard.

I'm going to write a Window Maker patch to work around this problem, I guess. I just rewrote Puppizard and made it generate PETs automatically, so I can finally say that Next is fully automated. Smile

EDIT: wow, the menu generation still doesn't work. It's very hard to get this thing working, I guess.

Iguleder · Posted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 04:58 Post subject:

Good news! I wrote a very fast menu generator in Perl.

It works wonderfully, now I just need to create a menu template and make it replace the applications menu with a generated one.

EDIT: here it is!

To get a new menu, run this:

nooby · Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9387 Location: SwedenEurope

[quote="Iguleder"... you just need kernel_sources-2.6.39-4.sfs.[/quote]

Hope it is okay to ask. How does one activate these then?
Or what is in them that anybody would need?