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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 06:52    Post subject:  

Hans,
Quote:
Question:
Is there a good way to log the console-messages at shutdown?
So once in a while I see quite a lot of them flashing by. Not allways though.
I face the same problem Smile I can think of a solution if you managed to boot at least twice and created your save file - then edit /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown and delete the line that empties /var/log/messages.
If you have any progress on your lxpanel update, please do let us know Smile

rcrsn51,
I managed to patch ted and now it runs better, not crashing anymore. It's on the pet repo now for anyone who is interested (en-GB dictionary included). The bug is still there, though - when you choose the font, the font sample at the top of the dialog sometimes doesn't work - but otherwise the setting is used properly inside the document.

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Hans

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 08:36    Post subject: lxpanel  

Jamesbond,
I am stuck on lxpanel for now, but the diff works, so that is a win for the next RC I guess, but the panel settings button does not, and is it not for the same reason jou mentioned earlier?
Quote:
You can't just compile plain lxpanel, it has to be patched (otherwise you see no menus),

I used the source you mentioned but didn't patch a thing. And that might cause the panel settings button crash.
What patch are you referring to?
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 09:04    Post subject:  

The source I referred to is already patched. Try to compile the source as is without applying further patches (ie your diff), and see if it works. If it works, then your diff causes instabilities elsewhere that would have caused the crash.
The panel setting is very important - in my opinion, it's more important than ability to see all the windows in pager. You can always switch desktops by pressing Ctrl-Alt-Left/Right-arrow, or Alt-mousewheel (when your cursor is on lxpanel).

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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 09:53    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:

rcrsn51,
I managed to patch ted and now it runs better, not crashing anymore. It's on the pet repo now for anyone who is interested (en-GB dictionary included). The bug is still there, though - when you choose the font, the font sample at the top of the dialog sometimes doesn't work - but otherwise the setting is used properly inside the document.

Thanks. I was actually being a bit facetious. I have been messing around with Abiword for years, but they have never been able to get it just right. Some recent versions have been awful at handling graphics.

Ted strikes me as an adequate little word processor, except that you are locked into the RTF format. It's too bad that he didn't include a DOC converter.
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WillM

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 19:57    Post subject:
Subject description: lxpanel
 

LXPanel requires menu-cache and lxmenu-data packages since version 0.4.0. First install menu-cache, then lxmenu-data then lxpanel.
I skipped the lxmenu-data part. Installed menu-cache-0.3.2 and
lxpanel-0.5.8. This puts application specific icons on the launcher area.
One thing I didn't like was the lxpanel menu put about 90% of the menu applications in category Other. The Openbox right click menu was not affected.

Code:

lxpanelctl - LXPanel Controller
Usage: lxpanelctl <command>

Available commands:
menu   show system menu
run   show run dialog
config   show configuration dialog
restart   restart lxpanel
exit   exit lxpanel


I almost forgot, Firefox 6.0.pet has been working very nicely.
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Fri 19 Aug 2011, 22:38    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Thanks. I was actually being a bit facetious. I have been messing around with Abiword for years, but they have never been able to get it just right. Some recent versions have been awful at handling graphics.
Like crashing when you try to resize Very Happy
Anyway, I've fixed that cut-paste crash, I've sent the patch to kirk. May be in the next rc or final.

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Ted strikes me as an adequate little word processor, except that you are locked into the RTF format. It's too bad that he didn't include a DOC converter.
Agree. I was looking for a standalone doc/docx4 converter for a while and couldn't find any decent ones too.

WillM, all the apps shows in "others" because puppy xdg menu structure doesn't use the standard categories defined by freedesktop. That's one of the reason why lxpanel in Fatdog is patched - to use Puppy's categories. Openbox menu is defined independently of lxpanel - and again, it was heavily modified to align with puppy's menu structure. When I built libreoffice SFS, I need to edit their desktop files otherwise they won't show up in the proper location on lxpanel's patched menu categories.

Firefox 6.0 is working fine on this corner too.

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Hans

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PostPosted: Sat 20 Aug 2011, 12:47    Post subject: lxpanel
Subject description: patched(I hope!)
 

Jamesbond,

I think the diff works. No crashes this time. I tested it on the live cd and on my full install and I see no changes in behavior except for the intended one. You might want to try it out, the patched pet is in the tar and the diff-thingies as well.

Leaves me to wonder why it didn't work the first time, the one that caused lxpanel to crash. Difference is with the second attempt that I used prefix=/usr, instead of leaving it to default, what I normally do and generally works well.

So a question for learning purposes:
-For the fatdog-applications what prefix should I use?
lxpanel-0.3.8.1p2-PATCHED-AMD64.pet.tar
Description  EXPERIMENTAL, WRONG PREFIX, see lxpanel-0.3.8.1p2-PATCHED1-AMD64.tar in later post
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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Sat 20 Aug 2011, 14:25    Post subject:  

Hi kirk, jamesbond

been a bit slow on picking up on this - really nice and fast.

just booted, so will play a bit and provide some noob feedback.

so far looks and feels outstanding - many thanks.

very best regards - ray
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Hans

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 18:10    Post subject: lxpanel pixmap error  

jamesbond,

regarding this problem I still have:

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2-Just after starting X is halted. Black screen and movable mouse point. Crt-alt-backspace to quit X. Happens irregulary but also from the life cd and the 3 beta's I tested, mentioned above. I am not sure about 511 and I did not test other beta's. See Xerror.jpg it is clear enough I believe, something is keeping X busy. It helps to disable some startup scripts but so far I can not erradicate it completely.
Am I the only one with this problem? It seems so...I did not come across this error on the forum.


This time it showed me something else, see jpg.
I don't think it is related to the problem above but it shows lxpanel has a problem with one of its pixmaps.

UPDATE: found another diff on correcting this pixmap-error...working on it..more later I hope..
And yeah..the X error is definitely not connected, X is halted with no error, at least, not that I can discover. My hardware I think.
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WillM

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 21:22    Post subject:
Subject description: Hardinfo
 

I am really liking Fatdog64-520 RC.
Hardinfo-0.5.2pre doesn't return results for all the benchmarks.
CPU Fibonacci and CPU Blowfish are the only two that returned a score consistent with the older version. Nothing else returned a score except GPU Drawing did return a mark for this machine, but nothing to compare it to.
Thanks for making Fatdog64 available.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 08:32    Post subject:  

Quote:
Hardinfo-0.5.2pre doesn't return results for all the benchmarks.


Yes, some of those test seem to be broke. But the old Hardinfo only tested one CPU core, so for most 64bit CPUs, all of the benchmark tests were broke.

I've uploaded RC2:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=555811#555811
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patelbhavesh


Joined: 22 Aug 2011
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Location: Sunnyvale, CA, USA

PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 19:02    Post subject:  

tried the 64-bit version.

Liked
=====================
1>Speed is much faster
2>can use more then 4 gb ram
3>integration with sven especially OSD volume controls etc
4>wifi etc just works OOB
5>standby/sleep mode just works by closing the flap of the laptop and comes up flawlessly , even with wireless etc.


disliked
======================
1>Vi does not work
2>it does not shutdown most of the times.
3>some of my important 32-bit applications dont work.i think i have to download the sfs of 32-bit libraries.

Once again thanks for the hard work and effort put by the development team to help in this.
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timothyli

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Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 04:57    Post subject:  

RC2 works flawlessly on my Dell Inspiron 15R laptop (i5-2410 8G RAM HD3000 Graphics). Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 09:50    Post subject:  

Hans,

The default ./configure for most apps in Fatdog is
Code:
 --prefix /usr --libdir /usr/lib64 --sysconfdir /etc


The lxpanel pixmap error has been there for sometime too, it's annoying but so far it's not breaking anything (at least not critical enough). But do let us posted with your progress.

Patel,
What do you mean by
Quote:
vi does not work
I can edit stuff with it.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 10:20    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:

Patel,
What do you mean by
Quote:
vi does not work
I can edit stuff with it.

cheers!

In the default urxvt console when i type vi i get command not found.see below

Code:

#vi
bash: vi : command not found


Also one more problem is ping doesn't work even though internet works thru mozilla firefox(that is how im posting this post) etc.

Code:

#ping www.gnu.org
ping: bad address 'www.gnu.org'

what i noticed is that even though internet etc works any command line utilities like wget dont work it is not able to resolve dns via command line versus windowed applications like firefox etc work fine.
P.S. i have not made any customizations or anything , just downloaded the iso and installed it via frugal mode.
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