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Volhout


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jan 2012, 06:18    Post subject: new icon  

Maybe I should ask this question in a different section, but I would like to have my desktop icons to have a meaning for me.

I have installed "Simetrix" on my puppies (ever since 412) and dragged a link to the desktop. (these packages do not insert into the puppy menu, understandable, since they are generic linux, and not aware of puppy specifics). That link visualizes as a "gear" icon.
Also other apps that I install (except puppy pets) show this gear icon.

What is the way to change that icon into something meaningfull to me (I have 3 gears at my desktop) ....

How's that done ??

It must be a stupid question, since I can't recall anybody asked this before..... So I will prepare for a RTFM answer.... blush ...
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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jan 2012, 07:41    Post subject:  

Hi Volhout!

Finally! Someone asks an easy question which I can answer! Wink You say the gear icons are on your desktop? If so then all you need to do is right-click upon them and select from the popup GUI ( where it reads "file 'Simitrex'" ): "Select Icon".

Clicking upon that will bring up a little box and you can go - using your Rox Filer - anywhere on your Puppy partition and select an icon to set/change the gear. ( I prefer "/usr/share/pixmaps" myself just to keep it simple - even if it means moving the programme's default icon from "/usr/share/icon/hicolor", etc. )

If the Simitrex programme isn't showing up in your menu that's easy enough to fix as well. Smile You can take a desktop file in "/usr/share/applications" and make a copy of it there renaming it to "Simitrex.desktop". Then just change all the info inside to reflect your programme.

I've often had to do this very thing with old Fox programmes ( eq: Adie, Shutterbug, et al ) which I acquired without desktop files. I found the programme from the nearest matching catagory and used those to make a desktop file for them. When finished I simply ran "fixmenus" in a console and there they were in the menu! Smile ( Sometimes JWM requires a restart for some reason, or is it an X reboot? Memory fails me... )

I hope this easy info helped in some small way Volhout?

Oh yes! And your desktop theme idea? Try looking back to some of the old Puppy threads where Warren/WhoDo made a Pup Pet which beautified version 3.00/4.00. I can't even recall the name of his project but OY VEY!... it was truly awesome at the time! Shocked

Ciao/Amicalement!

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EDIT: Oh! And btw Volhout? We NEVER believe in a "stupid" or "silly" question around here EXCEPT for this one: "The one which remains unasked." How will people learn and grow otherwise?

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turboscrew

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jan 2012, 07:51    Post subject:  

How is it with devx?

I have full install and Athlon XP 2100+.
At least iron gives me "illegal instruction".
The processor doesn't support SSE2.

Now that there is no uninstall for sfs's in case of full install, I'm a bit
worried if the devx works for me.

My idea is to recompile some programs that are compiled for newer processors.
I mean. if the devx is compiled with "pentium-m"-flag, the compiler probably doesn't work for me.
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Volhout


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Jan 2012, 11:01    Post subject: icons  

Hi Eyes-Only

That did the trick. Since I was running a custom iconset from GCMartin, I had to find them in /usr/local/lib/X11/..... but my desktop looks much improved now.

Thanks !!

Volhout.
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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jan 2012, 01:11    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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Barry has posted about some bug fixes and update to Puppy core programs. Any chance some of this stuff will make it into a Lucid Puppy update?
http://bkhome.org/fossil/woof2.cgi/timeline

Some already has--in fact, some is/was in Lucid first, such as the snapmergepuppy fix. Usb-modeswitch update will be in the upcoming Testing ISO, in fact we will have 1.2.2 instead of 1.2.1--this is posted by rerwin also. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=595173#595173


Is anyone trying to fix the ntfs-3g issue with USB drives? I've posted on this problem several times now in more than one thread, and no one has shown any interest.

Just to recap, intermittently (but more often then not), when using an ntfs-formatted drive on the usb port (either USB2.0 or USB3.0) pmount gives an error message and mounts the drive read only. Occasionally, repeated attempts to remount the drive result in the drive becoming completely inaccessible.

I've experienced this with two such drives on two PCs under lupu 5.28. Both drives are Seagates (320GB Freeagent Go and 3TB Freeagent Goflex Desk), and are still using their factory formatted ntfs partitions.

Other Puppies and other Linux distros (such as Fedora), have never shown this problem with the same hardware.

Nor do I experience this problem with internal ntfs partitions on either of my two PCs with lupu 5.2.8, only on the USB ports.

Since I depend on these two external hard drives for backups, this glitch cripples lupu rather significantly for my purposes.

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jan 2012, 10:37    Post subject:  

mounting read only is usually a sign of ntfs errors

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ntfs3g

However, I seem to recall there was an updated bugfix version of ntfs, so check which version you have

Code:
ntfs-3g --version


mine shows as ntfs-3g 2011.1.15 integrated FUSE 27, and hasn't given any noticeable problems using my external 320gb and 1Tb drives, nor my flashdrives [though these are fat32]

tempestuous comments here, where you posted, also

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=587656#587656

ICPUG refers to the updated ntfs-3g here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=466153#466153

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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Jan 2012, 20:56    Post subject: Style is in the eye of its maker  

Hi Volhout,

I hope the devs continue to devote their talents and energies developing Puppy's fundamentals and applications. Our various versions already have great tools for customization. While I can appreciate your aesthetic, I'd rather live with my own. Ultimately, what constitutes style is in the eye of the maker. Or, as Heidi Klum has said many times on Project Runway, "Vun day, you're in. The next day, you're out."
Attached are a couple examples of my own. The one named "Style" is my current Three-Headed Dog's Desktop. The analog clock is courtesy of xonclock.pet. I haven't played with it, but it supposed to be able to use, I think, conky's themes.
Between DaveS's Launcher, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=68200 on the left (normally set to disappear unless moused-over) fbpanel and wbar, I have 1-click access to my most frequently used programs and those, such as screen-capture, I don't wish to have to hunt for when I want them; and 2-click access to other frequently used programs: the first click being "show desktop" on fbpanel so as to gain access to wbar. It would probably be more pleasing if I turned off "desktop drive icons" --only about half of mine contain files I access when in puppies-- but I've chosen utility over style.
The one named "Slacko" is --guess what?-- my current Slacko desktop. As Slacko is still evolving, I decided not to take the time to add OpenBox-fbpanel-launcher, and just added a couple apps to jwm's taskbar. Not displayed is the result of the jwmthememaker.pet, with which I created a gold theme to go with the wallpaper. The Tulliana-2.0.pet generates beautiful icons. It was almost a shame to remove all but those for the drives.

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jan 2012, 02:28    Post subject:  

Aitch wrote:
mounting read only is usually a sign of ntfs errors

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ntfs3g

However, I seem to recall there was an updated bugfix version of ntfs, so check which version you have

Code:
ntfs-3g --version


mine shows as ntfs-3g 2011.1.15 integrated FUSE 27, and hasn't given any noticeable problems using my external 320gb and 1Tb drives, nor my flashdrives [though these are fat32]


Mine returns:

Quote:
sh-4.1# ntfs-3g --version
ntfs-3g 2010.3.6 external FUSE 28


I'm running a vanilla copy of lupu 5.28 from the original CD. I've installed update patch 4, but I believe this problem predates those patches.

Where did you get your ntfs-3g update? I don't see any links to it. And I've looked for a download link for an ntfs-3g driver for CentOS, since I'm advise it comes without one, but failed to find any.

Quote:
tempestuous comments here, where you posted, also

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=587656#587656


Sure. But all he offered was speculation that something was wrong with the ntfs format of the drive. At the time, I hadn't experienced the problem on the second usb drive yet, or on USB2 apparently. But the fact that other current Puppies and other distros never display this error message or feel the need to mount either drive read only suggests to me that the problem is in the code of Lupu 5.2.8.

His suggestion to defragment the drive doesn't seem to fit my situation. The 3T drive was brand new, and at the time was more than 90% empty. The other one is a bit older, and fuller, but hardly in danger of fragmentation. I run both under Windows 7 as well, and have never had a complaint about the drives from it either.

Quote:
ICPUG refers to the updated ntfs-3g here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=466153#466153

Aitch Smile


ICPUG's historical review of the issue is interesting, but offers no explanation for my experience, unless the ntfs-3g driver provided with lupu 5.2.8 is the unreliable one.

I'd be happy to try your updated ntfs-3g driver, if I could get a copy.

Can anyone direct me to a pet or other lupu-compatible installation package?

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Jan 2012, 06:35    Post subject:  

I get:
Code:
sh-4.1# ntfs-3g --version
ntfs-3g 2010.3.6 external FUSE 28
sh-4.1#


I'm running lupu-528.004 with rerwin's latest patches [see screenshot]...
And have never had any problem accessing/manipulating the contents of NTFS partitions [I have one on a 1TB USB external HDD].
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 02:03    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
I get:
Code:
sh-4.1# ntfs-3g --version
ntfs-3g 2010.3.6 external FUSE 28
sh-4.1#


I'm running lupu-528.004 with rerwin's latest patches [see screenshot]...
And have never had any problem accessing/manipulating the contents of NTFS partitions [I have one on a 1TB USB external HDD].


Good for you.

I wonder why he used an old driver when a newer one (that might be more reliable) is available (somewhere, according to Aitch)?

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 03:57    Post subject:  

I've upgraded a couple of Lucid 528 installs to Firefox 10.0 and SeaMonkey 2.7....both appear to be working normally.
Now to check on Opera...... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 06:49    Post subject:  

James C wrote:
I've upgraded a couple of Lucid 528 installs to Firefox 10.0 and SeaMonkey 2.7....both appear to be working normally.
Now to check on Opera...... Laughing


I am currently running seamonkey-2.7b5 and have not had any problems with it since installing. I prefer seamonkey and have been using it since 1.18, when I first started using puppy.

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Feb 2012, 07:06    Post subject:    

Hi Volhout! I'm so very glad I was able to help you out! Very Happy Whenever I'm able to help someone it gives me a great smile as I'm so little able to do so these days as in the past...

Keep enjoying your Puppy. There's nothing like a really good dog, eh? Cool Even for a cat lover such as myself! lol!

Cheers/Amicalement,

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 03:56    Post subject: Visual apeal  

@eyes-only:
I even created some icons of my own (by cutting and pasting) and assinged these to my 3 foreign programs. However, I have not been able to change the icon of the trashcan. If I try to change it, it reverts back to the old symbol after a repower. Not a major deal, but I am curious why.

@mikeslr:
A month ago I checked several reviews of small distro's, and in many puppy got good grades. In most of the reviews however there was negative remark about the appearance. Remarks like "soo 90's, cluttered desktop, childish looks". And I did not agree, since I "vamped" my own puppy to my likings already. But I have to admit that when you install puppy from the iso, the default looks are not showing the quality of the product below (as a matter of speach). I see the same in my own profession: I develop digital set top boxes, and the looks do matter. In fact, the better looking products get better field feedback despite the fact that they are technically inferior (I know since I designed them). What would happen to puppy if we could get an "out of the box" product that is visually more apealing. And I think it should NOT be the coders that design this, but people with a good feeling for aestetics (== spellcheck ?). PlayDayz should only approve and copy the required icons and thems into the build. (at least, that is how I idealize it). We should look for a volunteer.....
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Feb 2012, 06:54    Post subject:  

Oh boy Volhout! I feel like a kid in the candy shop with a $20 bill as you just keep asking me the questions I can answer! Very Happy Wink

Your "secret" lies in "/usr/local/apps/Trash" believe it or not and in "/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps".

Going to the first one you'll find what looks to be an exact replica of the trashcan on your desktop. Right-click and from the menu select "Trash" and from the second menu scroll down until you find "Look inside". Inside you should find a linked icon back to the second directory which I've mentioned above, see? If not, then at the very least your desktop icon should be there - and that's the "culprit" who keeps returning to "haunt you" after each reboot! lol! Laughing

I've discovered all these things myself Volhout because I so very much love theming Puppy, changing the icons, etc., and after all these years of changing everything around each week - sometimes several times a week - you discover these little delightful treats. Cool

I hope my years of poking around have been able to help you?! Smile

Cheers/Amicalement!

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