Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 - Updated ISO Version 005 - APR 05 2012

[cowboy]

Rerwin, Playdayz, et. al....

Can report success with the new version lupu 528v5 and LupuPlus with the broadcom wireless chip 4311.

LupuPlus 528v5 works out of the box with the adapter, perhaps because it has the earlier version of the STA or B43 set (bit unclear on that...?) It seems to be persistent, have made 3 reboots so far to check it (Live CD with savefile on FAT partition)

however, regular Lupu 528v5 requires installation of the new STA dual version pet per PeeBee and Rerwin's instructions, followed by TWO reboots to get the proper driver. Fought it for a bit, until I re-read the instructions and realized that a second boot would be required. Wireless on 528 now seems to be persistent, going to do a flashdrive install and then will report back.

I'll continue to retest on some new installs. In the past, for reasons unknown, I've had the chip work sometimes, and fail sometimes. However, it never survived a reboot, and the new 528v5 seems to have that ironed out.

Thank you all for your efforts regarding these troublesome proprietary chips.

[playdayz]

broadcom wireless chip 4311.

LupuPlus 528v5 works out of the box with the adapter

cowboy, Lupu Plus is the one that is optimized for the broadcom--so that is good news indeed. Thanks.

[gcmartin]

@Playdayz would you add SAMBA 3.6.3 (01Micko's or Pemasu) to the Repo folder.

Can you provide a link please?

Both versions have been tested and both version install and operate without any local or network issues using PUP528-005+Libre.

Edited: Is there a way, either in the Initial Boot Splash or in FirstRUN or in Hardinfo that the Puppy release level can be shown. It would make it easy to determine which Puppy is running. (for example ...004, .,..005 or ...005-1 )?

Expect a PM on SAMBA links

[cowboy]

Dang it, Playdayz, I had Lupu_Plus fail on my second install...did this:

1. Booted off Live CD
2. First run, SNS ran, was offered on ETH1 - wireless - wl - pci - x
3. choose that, and connected to wireless. Pinged yahoo, no problem
4. Reboot and create savefile on FAT USB partition
5. On reboot, SNS ran, was offered WLAN0 - wireless - b43 - pcmia - broadcom - b43 wireless adapter. So, chose that
6. Got message "failed to activate interface wlan0"

7. Rebooted a few times, no connection, same fail message.

8. As a further test, installed the STA dual pet on this setup, but when I attempted to reboot, the computer hung during shutdown...saw this at top of black screen - "Lucid is shutting down - HDA: Intel PCI.....INT A...Disabled" I inserted the dots, could get it all down, if needed. Anyway, took a hard shutdown to stop computer.

Please just let me know if you'd like me to try anything further, or if I should grab a pmodemdiag at some point in the chain of events above.

[gcmartin]

Does "LupuLibre 528.005-1 with LibO 3.5.2" contain the updates you include in "Lupu Plus" as well?

Thanks in advance.

[gcmartin]

@Cowboy

I have nothing against SNS as I believe it is very competent.

But, over the past several months, I have found FRISBEE to be a formidable candidate for Wireless connections within Puppylands.

You MAY want to evaluate its use. Go to Menu>Internet>Frisbee ....
The rest, I think you'll be able to assess. And, it will update your tray icon as well for you.

I have found it to work well on initial use, AND over save-session reboot via my Live media.

Hope this helps

[playdayz]

Does "LupuLibre 528.005-1 with LibO 3.5.2" contain the updates you include in "Lupu Plus"

Yes, those plus some. Right now Lupu 5.28.005 is the most up to date Lucid variant--but that will change soon when Lupu Plus and 3HD are updated.

[playdayz]

6. Got message "failed to activate interface wlan0"

cowboy, I think rerwin has an idea about this which he might ask you to test or which might show up in the upcoming lupuplus update.

As gcmartin says, Frisbee can be installed from the Internet menu. It might be worth a try, if you haven't already.

[humblesoul]

Wow. Well done playdayz and co.

A noobs first impressions and humble suggestions should there be another remaster.

Current Lupu528libre0051

First impressions count.

Humbly suggest default wallpaper should be set to wallpaperpuppy3d-wide.jpg and icon set as bluemoon to compliment default openbox theme. Maybe crystal, I like bits of both but bluemoon suits current default openbox theme better on the whole. Clock font set to white. Network icon default to tuxx or business if not frisbee.

These simple changes would make for a better, more impressive, coherent and intergrated oobe aesthetic look to this wonderful release of puppy linux.

This is just my own humble opinion as a new user.

Have had trouble aligning icons on the desktop and associating ODF docs to libre icons.

Have had trouble with wine that is not present in lighthouse 503g.

Otherwise beautiful.

Thank you.

Good bye.

*Edit* Also, the save icon is annoying on usb installs - the most likely modern user option. It appears in the most inconvenient of places and always requires moving/removing. Desktop templates takes some finding. Desktop look, layout and feel is important to non-geek users to feel in control of.

pupshutdown.pet options should be stock. the option of shutting down without a savefile gives new users the confidence to tweak away without fear, knowing that they can easily restart from the point that they last saved and were happy with whilst learning a new system or migrating from windows/apple. it takes a while to become comfy with the puppy paradigm - ease us in gently.

And one more thing. A dedicated laptop pet would be cool. For function/media keys and power button, etc. The one pointed to via puppy news in quickpet confuses the tray, adding an extra battery monitor icon and power options with no option not to and is difficult to configure/remove. The fribee installer works well. Something like that but for laptops maybe.

And the moon. On a stick.

Finally, i can highly recomend http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ to windows users curious about linux as a way to 'safely' and easily check it out.

Thanks again, goodbye!

[playdayz]

Humbly suggest default wallpaper should be set to wallpaperpuppy3d-wide.jpg

That is a nice one. We did use it as default in one version. Thanks.

Have had trouble aligning icons on the desktop and associating ODF docs to libre icons.

Have had trouble with wine that is not present in lighthouse 503g.

Oh, I only checked odt. I m not very knowledgeable about this--I think I remember odf, but Libre doesn't seem to recognize that--only odt. Can anyone explain? Wikipedia says odf is for opendocument formulae--I did test that odt word processor docs open in Libre.

Are you using green-domes's wine? What is the trouble?

[humblesoul]

i simply went into each program available via libre office and created a file called 'hello' in each. i wanted to associate appropriate icons to the saved files to keep in my documents. they are called odf, ods, odg, odp, odt, etc., dependant on the application used to create it. i tried to associate icons in the manner i have done so for desktop icons and failed.

*edit* most updated wine available via ppm. .net framework problem. reported missing. programs that work in lighthouse fail to launch in 528. gecko? failed to download in both 528 and lhp503g though both work, 503 running more programs than 528.

also, as you can see from custom jpg above this puppy is running out of save file space. i am creating a usb stick for a computaphobic friend - should i remaster will i retain installed apps and gain pupsave space, being able to reinstall to the same stick? *edit* don't worry - i'll search.

associate icons - right click - file... - set icon - dragged from usr/share/applications. works for desktop shortcuts. rejected by libre od docs. icons available.

clicking default '00011100' icon launches file in libre - the link works, i just want to change the icon. aesthetics.

also - right click open with doesn't associate with od files yet.

not complaining - just trying to help. or possibly just in need of. i'll shut up now.

[bigpup]

Lucid 528-005
Frugal install.
Problem with "num lock set" not staying set on first run of "Personalize- Settings".
After first reboot and making save file, "num lock" is not set.
After running "Personalize-settings" again, setting "num lock", and reboot.
"Num lock" stays set.
Confirmed on my install.
Reported here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=77372

[bigpup]

associate icons - right click - file... - set icon - dragged from usr/share/applications. works for desktop shortcuts. rejected by libre od docs. icons available.

usr/share/applications are not icons. They are desktop application execute files. You can place them on (drag to) the desktop, to execute the application, they represent.

The icons you want to use are in:
/usr/local/apps/ROX-filler/ROX/MIME
or you can use these:
/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps

[playdayz]

humblesoul, I see how to associate the ODF documents, such as odt, with the appropriate icons from Libre Office, so that any ODF document will show the appropriate icon. Thanks for noticing that--this Lupu Libre idea is new so it needs a few refinements like this. If you haven't got it yet, the way is to create a sample document, as you said, and then right-click on that sample doc and -> Set Icon, and drag the appropriate icon from /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/. *Before* you drag the icon, you need to change the radio button from "Only for the file..." to the top choice "vnd.oasis.opendocument...." to apply to all docs of that type. I will do that automatically in the next version of Lupu Libre. Actually I will make a pet that does it, I think, and post it later today or tomorrow.

Add: Wow, there are quite a few file-types and extensions we want to account for.

[bigpup]

Program update.
Pmusic 2.5.3
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31206

[playdayz]

Work in progress - associating doc-types with Libre Office programs and icons. This is mainly for Lupu Libre, but it should work if you have Libre Office 3.5+ installed in any Puppy--but if you are not using Lupu Libre you will have to download and install the Integrate_LibreOffice pet also in order to setup the desktop icons.

Download and install the doc-type-LibO-set.pet *and then Menu -> Shutdown -> Restart X server* to associate the icons and run actions for Libre Office. Please suggest additional doc-types if you see one missing or that should be there.

Writer: odt, ott, doc, docx, rtf
Calc: ods, ots, xls, xlsx, csv
Math/formula: odf
Impress: odp, otp, pps, ppt, pptx
Base: odb
Draw: odg, otg

[rerwin]

To address the issue of SNS getting confused by the use of both eth1 and wlan0 for Broadcom wifi, I have compiled the two (5.60 & 5.100) proprietary drivers so that they use wlan0. So, switching among driver versions should no longer impact SNS. And it avoids user confusion about the name differences.

I have packaged the fix as one for integration into all puppies and the other for just the 2 driver modules, which are built for each kernel. Be sure to install both packages.

Although I do not know the reason, note that the 5.100 version is 81 bytes larger than peebee's compilation of it. Since I do not have a wifi card that takes the proprietary driver, I need feedback from any of you who can test with these packages. Besides the recompilations with the name change, the script that magically causes the alternate driver to be chosen was changed to look for the "failure" message which should now contain the wlan name. Cowboy and anyone else who needs the older driver: Please verify that the older driver is activated if the newer one fails. Then, of course, try SNS and check whether the connection is restored after reboot.

Thanks for all of your patience while we try to get this right.

UPDATE 4/8/2012: Peebee pointed out that the new drivers may not be "picked up" if they are installed after the "update" package. Oops, I did not move the "depmod" command to the driver package in its own pinstall script.. After download number 7 of the driver package, I re-uploaded it with the added script. So, the order of installation is no longer a factor.
If you are not seeing the drivers work as expected, please run:
depmod
in a console window, to get them recognized.
Richard

[humblesoul]

Thank you! Have noticed some other files have been associated and iconified, for example in root, show hidden, .fonts.conf is now a grey libre icon as are both .jwmrc and .jwmrc-previous. Is this intentional?

Thought i spotted a few more on my travels but can't recall where.

Hope this helps.

[playdayz]

Have noticed some other files have been associated and iconified, for example in root, show hidden, .fonts.conf is now a grey libre icon as are both .jwmrc and .jwmrc-previous. Is this intentional?

Good eye. Not intentional. They are the same as those "flat xml" files. I think it will be best to not iconify those. Thanks.

There is an improved doc-type-LibO-set-1.pet in the message above. If the previous doc-type-LibO-set pet is installed it should be uninstalled first and then Menu -> Shutdown -> Restart X Server.

[humblesoul]

also, should i need to download jre if i am using google chrome? http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp says i haven't got it. have checked under the bonnet in chrome settings. all enabled.

tried quickpet install and ppm. both want to install java to mnt and advise against. tried anyway. then uninstalled via ppm.

thanks again.