(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

I really hate to be posting with a negative comment, because overall my sentiments are extreme thanks and gratitiude for all the hard work put in to Puppy. But I was really hoping it would get figured out that gnome-mplayer is a weak choice. Perhaps its small binary size is the attraction, but IMHO the media player of a distro is quite huge as re how newcomers are going to be making 1st impressions. Haven't checked in the latest version (which is 1.0.4 btw, just checking code.google-- unsure if the mentioned bug got fixed) but when I tried it out in 525, I found it particularly annoying that it went out on the web to get "Cover Art" somewhere.. (I had no way of knowing where at the time, and there was no warning.. I see at its homepage that it's Amazon)..
PROBLEM being, it pulled up some ghastly image with the scrawl "Off the Hook" on it, because I was playing my local mp3 file which was "Off the Hook" show from WBAI.org .. so now I presume the RIAA has my IP in a database as listening to a copy of some braindead rap song that I didn't pay for. (No, I don't inherently trust Amazon.)
Plus, there're other ways in which I find it clunky but haven't had the time to thoroughly document as I'd hoped. I *did* glean from the CLI help that one can turn off the Cover Art b.s. with an option at the cmd line.. one would hope that option would be the default in Puppy as opposed to gnome-mplayer's default, which is to interact with Amazon without warning.

But thanks again guys-- I'll focus my .pet projects, which are of possible interest to the community, on this particular Puppy, as it seems to be the major release for the foreseeable while..
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keepin' it free

Brown Mouse. Thanks for the feedback. Don't use the Slacko pets. This pet of Iron 13 is getting along with Seamonkey for me, and doesn't seem to have the Loading problem.

No, this is still not right. They will work together unless you uninstall Iron-13, then you will get the same error.

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str4y. I think mplayer-ffmpeg-gnome-mplayer-gecko-mediaplayer consists of good combo.
Gecko-mediaplayer can be compiled without libmusicbrainz support.
Gecko-mediaplayer as pet is 200 K, Gnome-mplayer 144 K. They are frontends for mplayer. I think good mplayer-ffmpeg compile really makes the distro.
I would like to hear about better mplayer frontends. I have checked several times the mplayer pages but I havent found any better.
VLC, Smplayer, Umplayer are all really good mediaplayers. But they drag Qt4 libs with them. The size is measured in tens of megabytes. You just cant include them in base distro. If you want to keep the distro size small enough to be booted in 256 Mb RAM.

Anyway, I would like to hear of better candidates.....

Just did a frugal install on another old box..... everything working on initial boot.

Sat 20 Aug 2011 Operating System: Two-Headed Dog-528 Linux 2.6.33.2
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
oem: Intel(r)865G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS product: Intel(r)865G Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: unknown
X.Org version: 1.7.6
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.7.1

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Core 0: 2992 1: 2992 MHz

...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.

# glxgears
1920 frames in 5.0 seconds
1960 frames in 5.0 seconds
1951 frames in 5.0 seconds
1895 frames in 5.0 seconds
1918 frames in 5.0 seconds
1908 frames in 5.0 seconds

-Computer-
Processor : 2x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Memory : 1026MB (153MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 20 Aug 2011 01:43:21 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G GEM 20091221 2009Q4 x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 1026244 560956 465288 0 42884
Swap: 2150392 0 2150392
Total: 3176636 560956 2615680

sorry to say, but this latest puppy is the first since 4.3.1 which does not boot in gecko surfboard - stalls with kernel panic.....
The latest Wary, in contrast, works great.

Béèm wrote:

Insomniacno1 wrote:Also it would be nice if wine were fully integrated in the menu, so that "Wine Programs" were there too. Right now its nowhere to be found after installing Wine and here I mean all versions up to the newest 1.3.9.xxxx.

From 3.xx on I use wine when it still was 0.9.x
Now I am at 1.3.23 and still never had a problem to find wine in the menu's of any puppy included the latest ones.
green_dome is the person who compiles wine and his latest is 1.3.25.
Winehq has announced 1.3.26, so green_dome will shortly announce it.

The Wine thread of green_dome can be easily found by searching on his name with the puppy search link in my thread.

Now for your problem, it is better to post it the users forum, as I don't think it's a lucid 5.2.8 issue.

Actually I were not kidden or mistaken about the wine, one of the users here compilled it to 1.3.9.

http://www.wuala.com/puppylinux/version ... -1.3.9_v1/

and 1.3.9 has actually been available since december 2010

http://www.winehq.org/news/2010121001

My problem, as described with wine is that the "Wine Programs" menu entry never show up in Puppy. "Wine Programs" is where all your installed programs will be listed, I cant see why that has been left out. Another thing missing from the menu is "Explore Drive C:".

Well, you say its not an issue with 5.2.8, and I say it seems to be problem with all Puppy including 5.2.8 so thats why I tell the publisher of 5.2.8 that it would be nice if it were fixed in his version:)


I'm not a programmer, but I can immagine the enormous effort someone has put into it when posting his or hers Puppy version. And I can appreciate it, but if we don't tell the problems then they will not get fixed.

With kind regards

JBJ

wifi realtek 8187 puppy 5.2.8 found livecd mode and not found install mode?

Juan José (Spain)

dealora wrote:wifi realtek 8187 puppy 5.2.8 found livecd mode and not found install mode?

Juan José (Spain)

What type install?
Frugal or full?

First boot of 5.28 after install with B43 wireless, no problem. On subsequent boots, however, no wireless interface is found.

Taking a look at /lib/firmware/b43 everything looks okay. Any suggestions?

dealora wrote:wifi realtek 8187 puppy 5.2.8 found livecd mode and not found install mode?

Hi @Dealora.

When in LiveCD desktop, did you happen to do a SAVE-SESSION to your LiveCD?
If you did, did your PC discover the adapter on reboot?

Just curious.

vancardboardbox wrote:First boot of 5.28 after install with B43 wireless, no problem. On subsequent boots, however, no wireless interface is found.

Taking a look at /lib/firmware/b43 everything looks okay. Any suggestions?

I have broadcom wl.ko and also "forgets" my settings on reboot. I just keep re-entering them on subsequent reboots and finally would stick.

^Its not merely forgetting my wireless settings. Puppy finds no WLAN interface after the second post-install boot, thus no wireless connectivity is possible at all.

Reloading the module does not fix, and the firmware appears fine in /lib/firmware/b43.

USB flash install, btw.

vancardboardbox wrote:^Its not merely forgetting my wireless settings. Puppy finds no WLAN interface after the second post-install boot, thus no wireless connectivity is possible at all.

Reloading the module does not fix, and the firmware appears fine in /lib/firmware/b43.

USB flash install, btw.

vancardboardbox USB install can make a difference and I have little usb experience. mine is frugal manual to hdd.

What has helped me in the past is checking for competing drivers.

SNS will show which driver(s) currently loaded as will menu>system>boot manager. If found a competing driver can blacklist it with the boot manager.

To confirm a functional wifi network interface. Try this command -
Code:
ifconfig -a


To manually wake up wlan try this-
Code:
ifconfig wlan(0) or (1) up

if shows wifi network then can configure it as before.

Here is a thread on manual wifi configuration.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469

playdayz hopefully will assist if you need.

sm 2.3lucid525.pet installed from repo and menus smudge not showing all options. will continue testing.

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http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... ges-lucid/

Thanks for replying, jim3630.

Command fails. "No such device". I should have, in my original post, included the error message that the Network Wizard throws up:

"failed to raise interface wlan0
failed command was: ifconfig wlan0 up
error returned was:
ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Protocol error"

Worked fine on first boot. Wireless works fine with the OSes installed on this notebook (Windows, Mint, Fedora). I will test this USB install later this eve with a different notebook. Same wireless nic on that one, though (b43).

Insomniacno1 wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Insomniacno1 wrote:Also it would be nice if wine were fully integrated in the menu, so that "Wine Programs" were there too. Right now its nowhere to be found after installing Wine and here I mean all versions up to the newest 1.3.9.xxxx.

From 3.xx on I use wine when it still was 0.9.x
Now I am at 1.3.23 and still never had a problem to find wine in the menu's of any puppy included the latest ones.
green_dome is the person who compiles wine and his latest is 1.3.25.
Winehq has announced 1.3.26, so green_dome will shortly announce it.

The Wine thread of green_dome can be easily found by searching on his name with the puppy search link in my thread.

Now for your problem, it is better to post it the users forum, as I don't think it's a lucid 5.2.8 issue.

Actually I were not kidden or mistaken about the wine, one of the users here compilled it to 1.3.9.

http://www.wuala.com/puppylinux/version ... -1.3.9_v1/

and 1.3.9 has actually been available since december 2010

http://www.winehq.org/news/2010121001

My problem, as described with wine is that the "Wine Programs" menu entry never show up in Puppy. "Wine Programs" is where all your installed programs will be listed, I cant see why that has been left out. Another thing missing from the menu is "Explore Drive C:".

Well, you say its not an issue with 5.2.8, and I say it seems to be problem with all Puppy including 5.2.8 so thats why I tell the publisher of 5.2.8 that it would be nice if it were fixed in his version:)


I'm not a programmer, but I can immagine the enormous effort someone has put into it when posting his or hers Puppy version. And I can appreciate it, but if we don't tell the problems then they will not get fixed.

With kind regards

JBJ

You probably have more experience then I have.
So good luck with your request.

vancardboardbox wrote:Thanks for replying, jim3630.

Command fails. "No such device". I should have, in my original post, included the error message that the Network Wizard throws up:

"failed to raise interface wlan0
failed command was: ifconfig wlan0 up
error returned was:
ifconfig: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Protocol error"

Worked fine on first boot. Wireless works fine with the OSes installed on this notebook (Windows, Mint, Fedora). I will test this USB install later this eve with a different notebook. Same wireless nic on that one, though (b43).

vancardboardbox, thanks for showing the messages, now looks like what have seen when mixing usage of frisbee and sns or connection wizard. True?

if so, i would rename your savefile and start fresh with pfix=ram if can remember the steps to your initial successful connection would write them down for future reference. often frisbee will not suffice to acquire wifi connection but once the connection is made and sns or cw scripts fail and time out then simply rebooting and then choose frisbee it can read sns or cw scripts then rewrites them while making your connection which doesn't time out.

to tell for sure need that tar ball report which when sns fails it offers that report.

now looks like what have seen when mixing usage of frisbee and sns or connection wizard. True?

If so, that is definitely not recommended. After installing frisbee should use frisbee exclusively. Of course can uninstall to go back to sns. That is why Frisbee is an install rather than included--they don't coexist well, as I understand it from jemimah, the creator of frisbee.

I have broadcom wl.ko and also "forgets" my settings on reboot. I just keep re-entering them on subsequent reboots and finally would stick.

Broadcom should go to tempestuous's thread.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59000
He also explained the Broadcom situation in the development thread for 5.2.7-but that will be harder to find.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=69563

Well, you say its not an issue with 5.2.8, and I say it seems to be problem with all Puppy including 5.2.8 so thats why I tell the publisher of 5.2.8 that it would be nice if it were fixed in his version:)

Let green_dome know about your Wine preferences. IMHO, he has done an outstanding job and I am sure he will consider what you say.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 07&t=53675