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kirk

Joined: 11 Nov 2005
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Location: florida

PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 08:30    Post subject:  Fatdog64-520RC2
Subject description: All 64 bit.
 

I've uploaded Fatdog64-520RC2. Hopefully this will be the last release before final.

linux-3.0.3
Firefox-6.0
Abiword-2.9.1-patched
Updated Peasyscan
Add PeasyPDF

James patched Abiword, seems to be working nicely now. Added a entry to the FAQs for the sandbox scripts. Other small fixes. RC2 is needed because of the kernel. We're back to the 3.x kernel. The CIFS mount bug is fixed thanks to patches in the 3.0.2 release, and a patch from Junjiro Okajima, which will be in 3.0.4.

Get it here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/

Make sure you delete any old save files before testing.

We have not made new Nvidia or ATI pet packages yet. Don't use the old ones!
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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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Location: GB

PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 10:27    Post subject:  

Nice one, kirk. Keep 'em coming! Had loadsa issues with the last one, but it's a worthwhile project...

Later: Load of problems back! The on-screen setup parameters don't show, the k/b defaults to USA, the X res. is wrong and there are big problems trying to rectify it (still on the SiS Mirage) although there is an initial low res. screen (800x600). But DHPC does come up - incidentally, can we dispense with the tacky bubbles reminiscent of you-know-who's cr*p OS? If you want to show the network coming up, just a simple text message would suffice: more professional!
I see that Cornish is included. Does that include all the missing vowel sounds and accents? The old lady who spoke Cornish all her life died a couple of years ago. I believe the prof. who speaks Cornish as a party piece and as his academic topic may also speak real English/English, too. What about the Welsh speakers in Patagonia & Brittany?! i.e. isn't that list of locales too extensive for a compact distro? They even speak English in the US, though they have funny monetary symbols on their keyboards. Some pruning might help? I'll promise to ask the Cornish speaking prof. not to beat you up. English English and Mao's simplified Chinese should cover it - the Germans speak better English than our schoolkids.

Will check it out some more, if time.
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 15:04    Post subject:  

Manual frugal installation on an ext3 partition is working great. It booted perfectly and everything checked just works fine.

However, please consider:

1. Leaving out the nouveau driver for the final release. Nouveau prevents the vendors driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-280.13.run from installing and it's a real headache to remove and requires a number of reboots. Once nouveau is removed the latest driver can be easily installed.

2. Activating the Puppy Package Manager and linking it to your download area which has lots of fine applcations.

Thanks for a great distribution that is fast, stable, and everything appears to work properly.

Cheers,
Jim

System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 20:44    Post subject: Fatdog64-520RC2  

Manual frugal install to compaq desktop.

Computer
Processor 2x Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5200 @ 2.50GHz
Memory 4044MB (397MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Mon 22 Aug 2011 08:51:53 PM GMT+5
Display
Resolution 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version
Kernel Linux 3.0.3 (x86_64)
Version #1 SMP Thu Aug 18 22:58:50 GMT+5 2011
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.50
OpenGL
Vendor Tungsten Graphics, Inc
Renderer Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33
Version 1.4 Mesa 7.10.3
Direct Rendering Yes
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.346 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.923 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.919 FPS
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kirk

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 21:04    Post subject:  

Quote:
The on-screen setup parameters don't show, the k/b defaults to USA, the X res. is wrong and there are big problems trying to rectify it (still on the SiS Mirage) although there is an initial low res. screen (800x600)


I would expect it to be the same as RC1, use the same work around. The keyboard has always defaulted to US. Use the Mouse/keyboard wizard to change.


Quote:
1. Leaving out the nouveau driver for the final release. Nouveau prevents the vendors driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-280.13.run from installing and it's a real headache to remove and requires a number of reboots. Once nouveau is removed the latest driver can be easily installed.


Nouveau works pretty well for some. It's not hard to remove, just delete, /lib/modules/3.0.3/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau.ko. Unfortunately, open source Nvidia support has many holes.

We'll make Nvidia and ATI pets soon. Thanks for testing guys.
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kirk

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 22:24    Post subject:  

Quote:
can we dispense with the tacky bubbles


I'm not a big fan of those ether, but I don't dislike them enough to make a replacement. I did add a check box to Frisbee that you can un-check to disable the popups.
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James C


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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug 2011, 23:21    Post subject:  

A quick run of RC2,live pfix=ram.Everything working and correct on initial boot....internet,display and sound. This box is one of those that uses the Nouveau driver.
Looking pretty good.

-Computer-
Processor : 2x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
Memory : 3796MB (272MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Mon 22 Aug 2011 10:26:33 PM GMT+5
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.0.3 (x86_64)
Version : #1 SMP Thu Aug 18 22:58:50 GMT+5 2011
C Library : GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Distribution : Puppy Linux 0.50
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Ray MK


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 03:21    Post subject:  

Hi all

Got rc2 and all looks good to a noob. First impressions are outstanding - fast.

Just going to make a save_file and see how it goes.

Thanks again for everything -
without your efforts I and many like me could not hope to enjoy the latest k3.0. and I suspect the only working k3.0 linux available today on our laptops.

Add 64bit to that and we really do have something very special.

Much appreciated and very best regards - Ray
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raffy

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 08:40    Post subject: kernel 3.03  

Yay, kernel 3.03 is now running in the Fusion E-350. Smile

It ran with "nomodeset apm=off", however, sometimes it hangs. It looks like a graphics driver problem. Fatdog64 no longer uses xorgwizard, so I will still have to learn the tricks of Xorg setup. The Fusion has Radeon 6xxx chips.

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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 09:45    Post subject:  

raffy,
just delete /etc/X11/no-xorg.conf and Xorg will create xorg.conf for you, which you can tweak to your liking.

Jim1911,
Quote:
1. Leaving out the nouveau driver for the final release. Nouveau prevents the vendors driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-280.13.run from installing and it's a real headache to remove and requires a number of reboots. Once nouveau is removed the latest driver can be easily installed.
I will have to disagree with you on this. I'm one of those whose display won't work without nouveau - so I'm glad that it's included by default. Without it I can't even download nvidia driver to begin with Smile
What I can do is to explore ways to disable and remove nouveau without having to reboot - if you decide to install nvidia proprietary driver.

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Sage

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 09:45    Post subject:  

Quote:
Fatdog64 no longer uses xorgwizard,

Ah ha! That explains a lot !
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gcmartin

Joined: 14 Oct 2005
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Location: Earth

PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 11:31    Post subject: live media users  

Please don't forget us Live meida users. We run desktops purely from the Live media. I have been using FATDOG this way since first introduced. Sometimes (although rare) there have been occasions where SFS are produced but no PETs for added functionality.

Over the years, the only time I reboot is when I have added some functionality where I want to insure will be included for all future reboots. And, my DVD is so fast and my boots are so rare, that Live media is the best solution for my environment and OS protection.

Lastly, when are you going to move SAMBA 3.56 to main area so PPM can see it???

Thanks for all the great work the 2 of you are doing for the community. This truly continues to be a very fast performer.

P.S. Thanks also to all of those testing as it verifiies what we see on our own desktops when you report here. Thanks to everyone here!

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kirk

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 11:50    Post subject:  

Quote:
just delete /etc/X11/no-xorg.conf and Xorg will create xorg.conf for you, which you can tweak to your liking.


Or you can run the Xorg Video Wizard from the setup menu.
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Ray MK


Joined: 05 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 12:15    Post subject:  

Hi

Just noticed a small gremlin -
when I moved some files from Downloads
to sda3 which is ntfs

I saw a red error message - saying something like,
operation not supported, not done or not completed

However the files were moved and seem intact and ok.

I did not notice this with RC1.

I am guessing that the new kernel ntfs bits are where the issue may lie.
Not a big problem for me 'cos I've still got rc1 anyway, but thought it
was worth a mention being we are getting close to final.

JFYI - am running frugal with a save_file on sda3 ntfs.
did defrag sda3 first.
booting with grub4dos from sdc1, which is an 8gig fat32 SDcard.

Have not been brave enough to shrink sda3 yet,
and put ext4 on a new partition. Soon.

Thanks again - regards - Ray
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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug 2011, 17:30    Post subject:  

jamesbond wrote:
raffy,
just delete /etc/X11/no-xorg.conf and Xorg will create xorg.conf for you, which you can tweak to your liking.

Jim1911,
Quote:
1. Leaving out the nouveau driver for the final release. Nouveau prevents the vendors driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-280.13.run from installing and it's a real headache to remove and requires a number of reboots. Once nouveau is removed the latest driver can be easily installed.
I will have to disagree with you on this. I'm one of those whose display won't work without nouveau - so I'm glad that it's included by default. Without it I can't even download nvidia driver to begin with Smile
What I can do is to explore ways to disable and remove nouveau without having to reboot - if you decide to install nvidia proprietary driver.
That may be difficult because the reboot is required to remove the nouveau driver that is in use. However, you must do it somehow to get your pet to work properly. Don't be concerned about it. I didn't realize how important it is to some users, so just leave it as is.

Thanks,
Jim
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