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Puppy 5.28 in Toshiba laptop: video and wireless problems
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joe0855

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 07:35    Post subject:  

Just for S&Gs, tried Fatdog64 (520). With this Puppy derivative, I get:
- video at the native resolution
- sound
- wireless LAN

Aside from the 64-bit architecture, what's the difference between Fatdog64 and 5.2.8? Is there any way to transfer HW drivers into 5.2.8 from Fatdog64?
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 17:35    Post subject:  

Testing.

PSC2EA-01H00E - Toshiba Satellite C665 Computer

:::::::::::

I feel joe0855's pain.

Same result in Puppy 5.28. >>>

No sound and No Wireless./

Puppy 5.29 >> sound works...reporting as
>> Intel Corp 6 Series Chipset Familyt High Definition

Trying to get wireless working.

Chris.
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8-bit


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 19:49    Post subject:  

cthisbear,
You got me curious. Is this Puppy 5.29 just Puppy 5.28 with the Instant Update installed?
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 22:23    Post subject:  

8-bit:
Good day mate.

" Three-Headed Dog - kernel 2.6.37.6

This Puppy Derivative is identical to Lucid 5.2.8 *except* that it has a newer kernel, 2.6.37.6, the same kernel used in Slacko. "

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70736

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joe0855

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 23:35    Post subject:  

Thanks Cthisbear!

With Puppy 5.2.9, are you also stuck at 1024x768 video resolution?

Testing my laptop with Fatdog64 (520), and although I've been able to get the desired video resolution, sound, and wireless, some of the apps I had been using previously in 5.2.8 (ie Xampp) don't like the 64-bit architecture. Any way to use Fatdog's kernel in 5.2.9? Again, please pardon my ignorance.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Sep 2011, 23:55    Post subject:  

joe0855 wrote:
Thanks guys!

Okay, my wireless is working like a champ using the 8192ce driver (found fix at: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=555883&sid=f7eccdca79b682214e0d73c9f13b95c3).

As for audio:
1 - When I click on 'Menu... Multimedia... Alsamixer', a small window flashes up on my screen for 1 second and then disappears.
2 - There's no speaker on the bottom right-hand corner by my clock.
3 - When I click on 'Console' to open up Roxterm and type in 'alsaconf', the Alsa Wizard opens, builds the drive database, but then reports '... no device found'.
4 - An Alsa Wizard windows then pops up and reports that 'No supported Pnp or PCI card found. Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chip?'. When I click yes and go thru the options, it ultimately reports, 'no legacy cards found'.
5 - Also tried clicking on 'Menu... Setup... Alsa Sound Wizard' but get same results as step 4.

This looks like your install of Puppy is not good.
With a good install you should not be having these problems.
Where ever you install Puppy, make sure it is a clean location.
Ideally a freshly made and formatted partition.

Sound issues in Lucid Puppy 5.2.8;
go to menu->help->LupuNews help
Follow the info about sound problems.

32Bit operating system programs will not work in a 64Bit operating system and 64Bit will not work in 32Bit systems.

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joe0855

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Sep 2011, 16:17    Post subject:  

Thanks Bigpup. So, is it safe to say that if I boot up using the Puppy 5.2.8 CD, I should get sound?

Booting up with the CD, I still don't get audio. I also following the same steps (below) as I did with my 5.2.5-to-5.2.8 upgrade:
1 - When I click on 'Menu... Multimedia... Alsamixer', a small window flashes up on my screen for 1 second and then disappears.
2 - There's no speaker on the bottom right-hand corner by my clock.
3 - When I click on 'Console' to open up Roxterm and type in 'alsaconf', the Alsa Wizard opens, builds the drive database, but then reports '... no device found'.
4 - An Alsa Wizard windows then pops up and reports that 'No supported Pnp or PCI card found. Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chip?'. When I click yes and go thru the options, it ultimately reports, 'no legacy cards found'.
5 - Also tried clicking on 'Menu... Setup... Alsa Sound Wizard' but get same results as step 4

Still no audio (let alone the XGA resolution and no wireless). Wireless is fixed as soon as I install the 'r8192ce_pci-k2.6.33.2.pet' and load up the module. While video at my native resolution would be nice (1366x768), I can live with XGA. Is there a thread on how to create drivers?
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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Sep 2011, 19:25    Post subject:  

It would have been nice if someone could give me a work around
for Puppy 5.28

" Sound >> Intel Corp 6 Series Chipset Family High Definition

Toshiba Satellite C665 ( PSC2EA-01H00E )

Any chance of a Pet made from 5.29...or work around.
Such as me booting 5.29 and copying some files. "

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70855&start=225

"""""""""""""

Fat Dog64.....fails for wireless network.

Slacko...boots straight to desktop...no wireless.

Wary513 ...not expecting anything...4 olderhardware,
but you can't beat Uncle Barry...because the sound worked
and Xorg did not bug out....unlike some others.
But no wireless.

Dpup Exprimo 5.X.6...
does see the connection
sees wlan0...wireless router blinking, but that's all folks.

Chris.
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Sep 2011, 20:32    Post subject:  

Quote:
Booting up with the CD, I still don't get audio. I also following the same steps (below) as I did with my 5.2.5-to-5.2.8 upgrade:
1 - When I click on 'Menu... Multimedia... Alsamixer', a small window flashes up on my screen for 1 second and then disappears.
2 - There's no speaker on the bottom right-hand corner by my clock.

To make sure you are running a clean boot with the CD.
At the boot screen hit F2 key
use option puppy pfix=ram
This keeps the CD boot from using any save files.

Are you sure your burned CD of Lucid 528 is good?
Good download of 528 and good burn to CD?
If you try to run alsamixer it should at least run.

Quote:
Wireless is fixed as soon as I install the 'r8192ce_pci-k2.6.33.2.pet' and load up the module.

That is because this driver is not preinstalled in Lucid Puppy 5.2.8 It does not have every possible driver in the 528 iso file.

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While video at my native resolution would be nice (1366x768), I can live with XGA.

The basic drivers in Lucid Puppy 528 do not provide this resolution. I have the same problem but can use 1280X800 and it works OK.

On desktop. run quickpet->drivers->click here to test your graphics card.
What does it say?

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joe0855

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Sep 2011, 22:56    Post subject:  

Thx Bigpup,

Quote:
To make sure you are running a clean boot with the CD.
At the boot screen hit F2 key
use option puppy pfix=ram
This keeps the CD boot from using any save files.


Bypassed any possibility of a pupsave file being loaded (good idea), but still no change with audio. When I click on 'Menu... Multimedia... Alsamixer', a small window still flashes up on my screen for 1 second and then disappears. Also still no speaker on the bottom right-hand corner by my clock.

Quote:
Are you sure your burned CD of Lucid 528 is good?
Good download of 528 and good burn to CD?


Aside from using the included Toshiba CD/DVD Burner SW that came with Windows 7 and verifying the ISO burn, how could I check if my Lucid 528 copy is good (downloaded directly from Puppy 5.2.8 iBiblio)?

Quote:
On desktop. run quickpet->drivers->click here to test your graphics card.
What does it say?


It says...'For your Intel video card, Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) we think the best add on driver is Xorg_High. It would be required for some programs and games with high graphical content and your desktop might seem a bit more snappy. Your selection should be below or there are other versions in PPM and Quickpet '.

So I installed the Xorg High pet and restarted X-server ('Menu... Shutdown... Restart X Server). Then I went into 'Menu... Setup.. Xorg Video Wizard' and clicked on the 'Resolution Changer' button but the only choices were 800x600 and 1024x768.

Then I tried 'XorgWizard' (also in the 'Xorg Video Wizard' window). Whether I choose 'Probe', 'Xorg', or 'Vesa', I'm still stuck at 1024x768, but here is where I lose the ability to tap on my touchpad to select or 'click' on something. Mouse pointer is also slower on the touchpad.

Hope this helps, thanks again.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Sep 2011, 00:12    Post subject:  

joe0855,

Looking at the spec's of your computer. You have one of the Intel processors that has the graphics integrated in the processor.
Lucid Puppy 528 is using some older versions of Linux core programs and Linux kernel.
It is probably giving you the best support it can.
Puppy in general is just staring to catch up to this new hardware, so support is a little spotty at present.
Probably need a really new Intel video driver to support video in this processor.
Have to search around for that one.

I am a user like you and not a developer for Puppy. I am giving you my best guess of what I have seen happening with this new hardware.

The audio is probably the same issue. Too new hardware.

Have you tried the multiple sound card wizard?
menu->setup->Multiple Sound Card Wizard.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Sep 2011, 04:47    Post subject:  

" The audio is probably the same issue. Too new hardware. "

But works in Wary 5.13...no problems.

Same with the video...no problems.

Other Puppies...it can be horrid with video.
You need work arounds.

Can I pinch files from Wary to use in Puppy 5.28??

"""""""

" Have you tried the multiple sound card wizard?
menu->setup->Multiple Sound Card Wizard. "

If sound device not there
>> Intel Corp 6 Series Chipset Family High Definition

Multiple Sound Card Wizard fails.

Thanks bigpup.

As this is still Core Duo I did not think that these Toshiba laptops
would have the video on the chip???


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Sep 2011, 18:09    Post subject:  

cthisbear ,

My comments where directed to joe0855 and his computer.
You are highjacking this post and need to make a separate topic about your problem.
It is very hard to talk about two different systems.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Sep 2011, 18:40    Post subject:  

" It is very hard to talk about two different systems. "

Sorry BP.
I thought they were the exact same laptops.
On rereading the Toshiba site>>>>I sees the error of my ways.

Apologies....Chris.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Sep 2011, 21:33    Post subject:  

joe0855 wrote:

1 - When I click on 'Menu... Multimedia... Alsamixer', a small window flashes up on my screen for 1 second and then disappears.
2 - There's no speaker on the bottom right-hand corner by my clock.


I'm running 5.2.8 with a Sound Blaster Live PCI card and I have the same flash of the alsamixer and it is gone. Happened to me on three installs on two machines so I think there is more to it than a bad install. Never could get alsamixer working.
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