Ideas of my efforts to centralize puppy? dumb idea?
Posted: Mon 29 Aug 2011, 02:11
(***Warning!!! Extremely long ,thoughtful and drawn out post... DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NO INTENTION OF READING IN FULL!!
NOT FOR THE WARY EYED!!! ****)
Hello all,
I forgot to mention in my last thread,that my recent purchase, puppylinux-online.net is an experiment to see if I can get any organization to the community
While I am prepared for the necessary "flame-wars" and "put down's" that things like this often cause in a thread , in the community,
I was just wanting to some Help as in some collective, peaceful and HOPEFULLY... some "constructive" thought about how to do this
And how much a Gigantic effort it may take to accomplish
(I need an approximate total file size of all the collective "Recent" and Up - to - Date" packages that are to be included in the project, and opinions and feed back, such as... on the feasibility , viability of th is specific venture)
rather lengthy description of plan below: ->
I was thinking of mixing three previously mentioned efforts, one which is the official one, the wiki, at the offical puppy linux site ran by crusty lobster and raffy, and seems to be going well, I think, but lacks certain features I would like to be shown present
and two others, one being one I devised, PPMo, but carried out and coded by the quite talented, Noryb009 that I met last spring on the #puppy-linux Internet relay chat channel on FreeNode
and SInce my time has been quite limited , as I mentioned on the other thread, I had him code, it and test run it on my brainwavedesigncentral.net (hostmonster) account
it was supposed to do these three things: ,
1: improve the organization of the said puppy packages on brainwave, by version number and application category, Instead of either un-ordered list, various folders, or direct links
2: allow contributors to easily upload their work('s) to my mirror without the hassle of sending me mail and having me manually add it, as was the common practice was (and is still in effect, today, for both mirrors)
3: manage the amount of traffic to and from brainwave to a point where the account was no longer throttled by establishing a "QUE" like system where people would take a ticket , and stand in line, after logging in...
Which was never established, as you would just log-in and freely download afterwards , regardless of load, but that was the general idea,
Similar sites that experience heavy download volume that offer game demo downloads for windows, like some "game-spy"( an online match maker for windows) affiliates, would usually offer you a paltry 100-200kbps connection for the demo which would average from eighty megabytes to about some where to about 800-2GB for the quake and unreal tournament FPS demo's at the time
and having said that, if you wanted the fastest speed possible from their site you would have to pay a "subscription - fee" for the chance to not to have wait and be in "QUE" for the download and have unrestricted bandwidth, according to thats specific server's capacity..
Just an example,
But, !!!!!
IN NO WAY DO I MEAN OR IMPLY, THAT I WILL IMPLEMENT SUCH A SCHEME FOR THE MIRRORS OF WHICH I CURRENTLY OPERATE,
Which will continue to be gestures and offerings of my good will to the community, un gratis , pro bono , and Free as in beer!
Now to get back on the subject matter, after that rather lengthy example,
The third mention I was going to throw into the mix that I will put into the dog bowl, is the Puppy section of "hunch.com" a little known user rating a review site from some products
I have not checked them out beyond the puppy linux pages that they have setup but It's their method of showcasing a certain software or other other product( if they have any, memory is not clear here)
That I find highly desirable for puppy, with it being quite similar to a review you would see on amazon or new egg, when shopping for PC Parts
basically in short, you would an extensive and detailed list of it capabilities and functions, then having the end users review it, giving it a rating rather it be stars, thumbs up or such and then comment about their current or past experience of using that certain piece of software, noting any issues they have had, what-so-ever
Now to end this post's I have asked around in several various Tech circles on the net, webhosting forums and other places on how to accomplish this as I had some idea's on how to start, like maybe have an Content management system and each puplet with it's respective packages that made it stand out, have it's own blog, or wiki on\in the CMS it self with the rest being centered around gathering news , and various other informations, including Tutorials and what not, all in one centralized "one stop" location for every one's practical use
While I think this will benefit the community as a whole, some of you beg to differ, noting that it will only "further fragment" the community , while others say that the chaos that puppy thrives in currently, is simply how the puppy community functions and any such efforts by me and anyone else before and\or after me ( if I do or do not ,indeed decide this is a viable avenue , with the communities feedback, comments and suggestions of course)
and such an effort would only stifle , if not oppress the freedom of free thought and creativity of the community
Regardless of your perspective, I am "impartial" and will be all ears, about what should be done about this fragmentation issue that has been plaguing puppy for so long,
But perhaps this is what sets puppy aside from the rest of the pack, named linux.... everyone is free to remix and \or modify puppy like a true GNU linux, without the fear of being hassled or haggled by the current or former project's hierarchy, like some of the more well known distributions out there, eliminating the need to "Fork" puppy
Anyways
This post is getting too long... and I fear eyestrain for the many people that may be reading this
So,
I await the communities (YOUR) feed-back
Any suggestions, comments or constructive notions or thoughts are highly welcome!
Thanks,
Saturn
NOT FOR THE WARY EYED!!! ****)
Hello all,
I forgot to mention in my last thread,that my recent purchase, puppylinux-online.net is an experiment to see if I can get any organization to the community
While I am prepared for the necessary "flame-wars" and "put down's" that things like this often cause in a thread , in the community,
I was just wanting to some Help as in some collective, peaceful and HOPEFULLY... some "constructive" thought about how to do this
And how much a Gigantic effort it may take to accomplish
(I need an approximate total file size of all the collective "Recent" and Up - to - Date" packages that are to be included in the project, and opinions and feed back, such as... on the feasibility , viability of th is specific venture)
rather lengthy description of plan below: ->
I was thinking of mixing three previously mentioned efforts, one which is the official one, the wiki, at the offical puppy linux site ran by crusty lobster and raffy, and seems to be going well, I think, but lacks certain features I would like to be shown present
and two others, one being one I devised, PPMo, but carried out and coded by the quite talented, Noryb009 that I met last spring on the #puppy-linux Internet relay chat channel on FreeNode
and SInce my time has been quite limited , as I mentioned on the other thread, I had him code, it and test run it on my brainwavedesigncentral.net (hostmonster) account
it was supposed to do these three things: ,
1: improve the organization of the said puppy packages on brainwave, by version number and application category, Instead of either un-ordered list, various folders, or direct links
2: allow contributors to easily upload their work('s) to my mirror without the hassle of sending me mail and having me manually add it, as was the common practice was (and is still in effect, today, for both mirrors)
3: manage the amount of traffic to and from brainwave to a point where the account was no longer throttled by establishing a "QUE" like system where people would take a ticket , and stand in line, after logging in...
Which was never established, as you would just log-in and freely download afterwards , regardless of load, but that was the general idea,
Similar sites that experience heavy download volume that offer game demo downloads for windows, like some "game-spy"( an online match maker for windows) affiliates, would usually offer you a paltry 100-200kbps connection for the demo which would average from eighty megabytes to about some where to about 800-2GB for the quake and unreal tournament FPS demo's at the time
and having said that, if you wanted the fastest speed possible from their site you would have to pay a "subscription - fee" for the chance to not to have wait and be in "QUE" for the download and have unrestricted bandwidth, according to thats specific server's capacity..
Just an example,
But, !!!!!
IN NO WAY DO I MEAN OR IMPLY, THAT I WILL IMPLEMENT SUCH A SCHEME FOR THE MIRRORS OF WHICH I CURRENTLY OPERATE,
Which will continue to be gestures and offerings of my good will to the community, un gratis , pro bono , and Free as in beer!
Now to get back on the subject matter, after that rather lengthy example,
The third mention I was going to throw into the mix that I will put into the dog bowl, is the Puppy section of "hunch.com" a little known user rating a review site from some products
I have not checked them out beyond the puppy linux pages that they have setup but It's their method of showcasing a certain software or other other product( if they have any, memory is not clear here)
That I find highly desirable for puppy, with it being quite similar to a review you would see on amazon or new egg, when shopping for PC Parts
basically in short, you would an extensive and detailed list of it capabilities and functions, then having the end users review it, giving it a rating rather it be stars, thumbs up or such and then comment about their current or past experience of using that certain piece of software, noting any issues they have had, what-so-ever
Now to end this post's I have asked around in several various Tech circles on the net, webhosting forums and other places on how to accomplish this as I had some idea's on how to start, like maybe have an Content management system and each puplet with it's respective packages that made it stand out, have it's own blog, or wiki on\in the CMS it self with the rest being centered around gathering news , and various other informations, including Tutorials and what not, all in one centralized "one stop" location for every one's practical use
While I think this will benefit the community as a whole, some of you beg to differ, noting that it will only "further fragment" the community , while others say that the chaos that puppy thrives in currently, is simply how the puppy community functions and any such efforts by me and anyone else before and\or after me ( if I do or do not ,indeed decide this is a viable avenue , with the communities feedback, comments and suggestions of course)
and such an effort would only stifle , if not oppress the freedom of free thought and creativity of the community
Regardless of your perspective, I am "impartial" and will be all ears, about what should be done about this fragmentation issue that has been plaguing puppy for so long,
But perhaps this is what sets puppy aside from the rest of the pack, named linux.... everyone is free to remix and \or modify puppy like a true GNU linux, without the fear of being hassled or haggled by the current or former project's hierarchy, like some of the more well known distributions out there, eliminating the need to "Fork" puppy
Anyways
This post is getting too long... and I fear eyestrain for the many people that may be reading this
So,
I await the communities (YOUR) feed-back
Any suggestions, comments or constructive notions or thoughts are highly welcome!
Thanks,
Saturn