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#16 Post by Diamond »

Thank you for this great SFS :)
I have been waiting soo long for this :)
My problems are:
1) Sound card is not working,I have sound blaster,and KDE asks every time I log... "Should I forget about this cards"....

Oh no,that is my SB sound card...
There is no "mixer",it would be much easier to disable onboard sound card.
I tried with multiple sound card,to make SB default,and no use. It happened that music is playing but no sound (?!?!)
2) Restart and turn off not working,all I got when I log off.... is restart to console mode. Tried with this workaround edited file,but no use.

edit: OpenGL graphic effects won't work.
Many effects are not working under XRender.
(blur,glide,screenshot,startup feedback,wobbly windows,desktop cube animation...)

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#17 Post by battleshooter »

Hey Diamond,

Glad you like it and thanks for the feedback. For desktop effects, I'm pretty sure you'll need the kdeplasma-addons package, (download it here) and have DRI running on your system. Try typing "glxinfo" in a console and look for "direct rendering:yes" near the top. If you haven't got DRI going, use "Quickpet->Drivers->Test Graphics Card" to figure out which driver you'll need to get DRI going.

See how things go from there.

Music but no sound? Not quite sure what you mean, could you elaborate? Is the this a problem you have normally in Lupu without the KDE4 SFS or did the trouble only start when using KDE4?

Strange about the restart not working. I tested the tweak on a clean save and it worked fine. Did you remember to uncomment HaltCmd= and RebootCmd= by removing the " #"? Are you logged in as root or another user?

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#18 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote: Music but no sound? Not quite sure what you mean, could you elaborate? Is the this a problem you have normally in Lupu without the KDE4 SFS or did the trouble only start when using KDE4?

Strange about the restart not working. I tested the tweak on a clean save and it worked fine. Did you remember to uncomment HaltCmd= and RebootCmd= by removing the " #"? Are you logged in as root or another user?
Battleshooter
There is no sound in KDE. I have not this problem in Puppy,everything worked fine untill I installed KDE. Now there is no sound without KDE.

I will try fix about reboot later,thanx for your tip.
Greetings :)

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#19 Post by Diamond »

Kde seems in early beta stage ? Crashed this morning,it won't start.

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#20 Post by battleshooter »

Diamond wrote:Kde seems in early beta stage ? Crashed this morning,it won't start.
How are you trying to start it up? With "Desktop->desktop settings->WM switcher" or "startkde" or with kdm? I'm finding it hard to troubleshoot for you because I don't know how you're doing things.

For example, if you log in with kdm as a user without permissions set, you won't get sound, but I don't know how you're logging in so I'm not sure where to start. :)

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#21 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote: How are you trying to start it up? With "Desktop->desktop settings->WM switcher" or "startkde" or with kdm? I'm finding it hard to troubleshoot for you because I don't know how you're doing things.

For example, if you log in with kdm as a user without permissions set, you won't get sound, but I don't know how you're logging in so I'm not sure where to start. :)

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1) Desktop->desktop settings->WM switcher ... don't worked,KDE crashed at start
2) console start ... crashed

There is no way to enter the KDE4.
battleshooter wrote: For example, if you log in with kdm as a user without permissions set, you won't get sound, but I don't know how you're logging in so I'm not sure where to start. :)
Problem is that Linux see onboard card and my Soundblaster card. Puppy Lucid is able to solve this problem,but KDE4 is solving this problem through disabling onboard sound through "mixer". I don't see that option in your Lucid KDE4,in other KDE4 distros it was in taskbar.
KDE have it's own engine for sound cards,that is the problem.
Every time I started KDE,it asks me to disable my SB card.

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#22 Post by battleshooter »

Diamond wrote: There is no way to enter the KDE4.
That's strange, did it crash only after installing the plasmaaddons?

There is another way of getting in, if you exit to prompt (menu->shutdown->exit to prompt) then type "kdm", you'll get the official KDE login screen. To log in as root though, you'll need to enable it in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc. Look for the line "AllowRootLogin=false" and change it to "AllowRootLogin=true".
Diamond wrote: I don't see that option in your Lucid KDE4,in other KDE4 distros it was in taskbar.
KDE have it's own engine for sound cards,that is the problem.
Ahh ok I see. I'm still new to KDE so there's still a lot of things I need learn. Could you try to get into KDE the kdm way and see how the soundblaster responds to that? I think that should get mixer into the taskbar. Another thing you might want to do is to install the kdemultimedia addon, it might enable more functionality. Thanks for sticking to this.

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#23 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote: That's strange, did it crash only after installing the plasmaaddons?
No,it started before I installed plasma addons. Actually I installed ati drivers,and even manage to enter into KDE once...

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#24 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote: There is another way of getting in, if you exit to prompt (menu->shutdown->exit to prompt) then type "kdm", you'll get the official KDE login screen. To log in as root though, you'll need to enable it in /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc. Look for the line "AllowRootLogin=false" and change it to "AllowRootLogin=true".
Battleshooter
What is the password for login ?

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#25 Post by battleshooter »

Diamond wrote: What is the password for login ?
woofwoof

Exactly like that, no caps, no spaces.
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#26 Post by Diamond »

It seems that this KDE is in early alpha stage.
Tried,no use. Login and pass works,but when KDE started,suddenly I had to enter (again) login and pass...

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#27 Post by battleshooter »

Ahhh ok, I was wondering if that would happen. It seems to be KDE doesn't like your graphics card or drivers :\ Seems it's having difficulty drawing up the plasma desktop. Have you tried getting in on a clean pup save with no drivers installed? I know it's more work, so I guess it's up to you if you'd like to keep trying to figure out what's wrong. I'm still happy of course to help you try and work it out.

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#28 Post by Diamond »

Hm.I wonder why KDE allowed me to login with ATI drivers once.. I give up,maybe some other time...thanx for help.

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#29 Post by battleshooter »

Diamond wrote:Hm.I wonder why KDE allowed me to login with ATI drivers once..
That's what I wondering as well. Sorry it didn't work out :\ Maybe next time it will.

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#30 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote:Hey Diamond,

Glad you like it and thanks for the feedback. For desktop effects, I'm pretty sure you'll need the kdeplasma-addons package, (download it here) and have DRI running on your system. Try typing "glxinfo" in a console and look for "direct rendering:yes" near the top. If you haven't got DRI going, use "Quickpet->Drivers->Test Graphics Card" to figure out which driver you'll need to get DRI going.
Hello,it is me again. I installed again KDE,and sound is working,except that ATI driver is working but no desktop effects. I installed plasma addons. What should I do ?
Thanx!

2. My shortcuts don't work any more,I tried to add them again,but no use.

3. Bug - can't download and install plasma addon... When I try,KDE is showing an error.
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#31 Post by battleshooter »

Hey Diamond,

Very glad to hear you've got the desktop going again. Unfortunately though, I haven't got the desktop effects running myself, still need to do a bit of googling, it's still a work in progress. I'll let you know as soon as I figure it out.

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#32 Post by Diamond »

In a matter of fact,I like KDE very much. And there is a bug in JWM,there is no keyboard layot...
So I am again with your KDE + Lucid 5.28 :D
Sometimes I have no sound,but everything is fine :lol:
I installed ATI drivers first,and then I entered in KDE,and so far,so good ... :)
KDE seems pretty fast especially when I am entering KDE.
And finally,my Photo card is showing pictures really fast... Just like in WI$dow$$
Great work,KDE buddies :D
And great work to you too my friend!
I have one question,how to install downloaded .pet packages without entering JWM ? Through Delphin is not working. Thank you very much for your patience.

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#33 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote: By uncommenting

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HaltCmd=
and

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RebootCmd=
and setting their values to /sbin/poweroff and /sbin/reboot respectively, this seems to sort out the shutdown issue.

I was initially looking there, but I didn't realize they required the whole path to work out. I just need to do a bit more testing to see if it's dependent on any of the other tweaks I tried before this one, but I doubt it.
Am I wrong ? My kdm file looks like this

The command (subject to word splitting) to run to halt the system.
# Default is "/sbin/poweroff"
HaltCmd=
# The command (subject to word splitting) to run to reboot the system.
# Default is "/sbin/reboot"
RebootCmd=
# Whether it is allowed to shut down the system via the global command socket.
# Default is false
#AllowFifo=true

Not restarting... still

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#34 Post by battleshooter »

Close, but it should look like this:

The command (subject to word splitting) to run to halt the system.
# Default is "/sbin/poweroff"
HaltCmd=/sbin/poweroff
# The command (subject to word splitting) to run to reboot the system.
# Default is "/sbin/reboot"
RebootCmd=/sbin/poweroff

The part to change is highlighted in red.

To get Dolphin to install pets, click on a pet and when the "Open with" dialog pops up, type "petget" into it, and tick the "Remember application association for this type of file" box.

That should get it to go :)
Thank you very much for your patience.
I'm glad to help :)

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#35 Post by Adagio »

I have done it like that but it just goes back to a prompt.

Grrrrrowl.

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