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#31 Post by battleshooter »

Hey Diamond,

Very glad to hear you've got the desktop going again. Unfortunately though, I haven't got the desktop effects running myself, still need to do a bit of googling, it's still a work in progress. I'll let you know as soon as I figure it out.

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#32 Post by Diamond »

In a matter of fact,I like KDE very much. And there is a bug in JWM,there is no keyboard layot...
So I am again with your KDE + Lucid 5.28 :D
Sometimes I have no sound,but everything is fine :lol:
I installed ATI drivers first,and then I entered in KDE,and so far,so good ... :)
KDE seems pretty fast especially when I am entering KDE.
And finally,my Photo card is showing pictures really fast... Just like in WI$dow$$
Great work,KDE buddies :D
And great work to you too my friend!
I have one question,how to install downloaded .pet packages without entering JWM ? Through Delphin is not working. Thank you very much for your patience.

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#33 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote: By uncommenting

Code: Select all

HaltCmd=
and

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RebootCmd=
and setting their values to /sbin/poweroff and /sbin/reboot respectively, this seems to sort out the shutdown issue.

I was initially looking there, but I didn't realize they required the whole path to work out. I just need to do a bit more testing to see if it's dependent on any of the other tweaks I tried before this one, but I doubt it.
Am I wrong ? My kdm file looks like this

The command (subject to word splitting) to run to halt the system.
# Default is "/sbin/poweroff"
HaltCmd=
# The command (subject to word splitting) to run to reboot the system.
# Default is "/sbin/reboot"
RebootCmd=
# Whether it is allowed to shut down the system via the global command socket.
# Default is false
#AllowFifo=true

Not restarting... still

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#34 Post by battleshooter »

Close, but it should look like this:

The command (subject to word splitting) to run to halt the system.
# Default is "/sbin/poweroff"
HaltCmd=/sbin/poweroff
# The command (subject to word splitting) to run to reboot the system.
# Default is "/sbin/reboot"
RebootCmd=/sbin/poweroff

The part to change is highlighted in red.

To get Dolphin to install pets, click on a pet and when the "Open with" dialog pops up, type "petget" into it, and tick the "Remember application association for this type of file" box.

That should get it to go :)
Thank you very much for your patience.
I'm glad to help :)

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#35 Post by Adagio »

I have done it like that but it just goes back to a prompt.

Grrrrrowl.

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#36 Post by battleshooter »

Adagio wrote:I have done it like that but it just goes back to a prompt.

Grrrrrowl.
Hey Adagio,

I just discovered the kdmrc shutdown tweak only works if you log into KDE4 with kdm. :\ Sorry about that. Were you getting on to KDE4 with kdm?

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#37 Post by Diamond »

It seems that KDE is falling apart. First,shortcut icons don't work.. There is no chance for new shortcut to put to desktop...
Second,there is few errors that I get on startup
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#38 Post by Master_wrong »

"Ah yeah, the permissions, hope that works out for you, that's where things got messy for me. K3B would install, but I couldn't actually get it to burn. "

you should run it from terminal and see what error messages there
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#39 Post by Adagio »

Hi,

I'm not starting with KDM.
I'm also not spending much time on this atm, as other things have priority.

Have installed kdemultimedia hoping to get konq addons going, but not yet.

k3b permissions are on hold till I get my new drive in a couple of days,
The old one is buggered. :)

Little-by-little. :)

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#40 Post by roadkill13 »

Having fun with this. Installed it on retro lucid 5.25 v4. Works. I played with it for a while then decided to install the xfce4 desktop available in the package manager. So far it seems to be a good combination.

Adagio

#41 Post by Adagio »

I have now moved it onto Finlandia Puppy (TwoHeadedDog) and using JWM.
I'm more about functionality than style. :)

I still have credibility at work with this.
That's where I am playing with it, but that's just between you and me, okay?

I don't usually keep all the Puppy icons, but they seem to go with this background.

Having fun here too.
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#42 Post by battleshooter »

Diamond wrote:It seems that KDE is falling apart. First,shortcut icons don't work.. There is no chance for new shortcut to put to desktop...
Second,there is few errors that I get on startup
Yes I've discovered that about the shortcut icons as well, it is annoying, but it seems to be just how KDE4 is. I'm sure there's some widget available somewhere though that can remedy it.

Those errors, hmmm, I've never seen them before, how did you get them? Did you tweak any files or change any settings you think could have caused those errors? I'd like to try and reproduce them on my machine so I can figure how to solve it.
Master_wrong wrote:"Ah yeah, the permissions, hope that works out for you, that's where things got messy for me. K3B would install, but I couldn't actually get it to burn. "

you should run it from terminal and see what error messages there
Actually I did a bit more twiddling with K3B, looks like it's still dependent on HAL even though KDE4 has depreciated it, and K3B themselves said it was no longer dependent on HAL, so that would explain why the devices don't show up :\
Adagio wrote:I'm not starting with KDM.
If you wanted to you could use PupShutdown to shutdown instead. You can find it the menu and right click on it to make it a favorite for easy access. As long as you're not using kdm to log in Pupshutdown will work and the kdmrc tweak will not work. If you're using kdm to log in, then the kdmrc tweak will work and Pupshutdown will not.

@roadkill13 and Adagio

Great to hear you guys are having fun, I am too :) Thanks for all the feedback and support guys :D

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#43 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote: Those errors, hmmm, I've never seen them before, how did you get them? Did you tweak any files or change any settings you think could have caused those errors? I'd like to try and reproduce them on my machine so I can figure how to solve it.
I don't know how to fix kde shortcut errors,it is very annoying.
No,i don't tweak anything I have just installed some apps and uninstalling,nothing that could ruin KDE. And that is just one error,there are some more errors,but I am so tired of using KDE sfs,lot of bugs are really dissapointing...

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#44 Post by battleshooter »

Sorry to hear it's been so disappointing for you. Please don't use it if it stresses you up so much, while I do appreciate you letting me know what's wrong with it so I can fix it, I don't want you to get white hairs over it :(

You've helped me though smooth out some issues by pointing them out and I do appreciate it :)

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#45 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote:
Diamond wrote:It seems that KDE is falling apart. First,shortcut icons don't work.. There is no chance for new shortcut to put to desktop...
Second,there is few errors that I get on startup
Yes I've discovered that about the shortcut icons as well, it is annoying, but it seems to be just how KDE4 is. I'm sure there's some widget available somewhere though that can remedy it.
Are you sure it is just KDE4 ? It wont happened to me on other puppy kde4 distros. Allthough I don't use them so much... How you figure out that problem is KDE related ?

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#46 Post by battleshooter »

Hey Diamond,

Maybe I'm not understanding what your shortcut problem is. Could you explain in greater detail what you mean when you say the shortcut icons don't work? Do you mean you can't create them, or when you click on them they don't startup the application the shortcut points to? In either case, how are you creating the shortcut?

What were the other KDE4 puppy distros? The only one I know of is Tazoc's LighthousePup? I tested to see if making a shortcut on the desktop behaved the same way it did on this SFS, and it seemed to be the same. :\


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#47 Post by roadkill13 »

I have installed the 5.28 version of Puppy Lucid on my netbook. I applied the KDE4 sfs to this frugal installation with very good result so far. I am able to start the computer and boot into KDE4 via KDM and I am able to use KDE's shutdown features. I did this by following the instructions provided in this thread. I also symlinked contents of Rox Startup folder to /root/.kde/Autostart

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#48 Post by Diamond »

battleshooter wrote:Hey Diamond,

Maybe I'm not understanding what your shortcut problem is. Could you explain in greater detail what you mean when you say the shortcut icons don't work? Do you mean you can't create them, or when you click on them they don't startup the application the shortcut points to? In either case, how are you creating the shortcut?
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Desktop shortcut don't work. When I try to add new shortcut,I cant.. I just have some error. Desktop shortcut turned to some rubbish...
I created shortcut by dragging some app to desktop and clicking "shortcut here"
When I say "other distros" I mean for example Lighthouse pup 64 bit.
Thank you for your patience.

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Re: KDE4 as desktop

#49 Post by battleshooter »

roadkill13 wrote:I have installed the 5.28 version of Puppy Lucid on my netbook. I applied the KDE4 sfs to this frugal installation with very good result so far. I am able to start the computer and boot into KDE4 via KDM and I am able to use KDE's shutdown features. I did this by following the instructions provided in this thread. I also symlinked contents of Rox Startup folder to /root/.kde/Autostart

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Wow, that looks really good roadkill13, how did you get the Chrome and PupControl shortcut icons on the desktop?

And symlinking the Startup folder, that is a brilliant idea, I'll add it to tips. Thank you :D

@Diamond

That's great, thank you for answering all my questions, I'm not on my home computer right now, but when I get home, I'll try making shortcuts the way you described, I didn't know that's how you make shortcuts in KDE4, I thought you just drag them, like in the normal Puppy, and "link here".

Thanks for your patience Diamond :)

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#50 Post by roadkill13 »

Wow, that looks really good roadkill13, how did you get the Chrome and PupCWow, that looks really good roadkill13, how did you get the Chrome and PupControl shortcut icons on the desktop?
A right click on any item in the KDE menu produces a popup menu. Sending a shortcut to the desktop is one of the three options. Another handy option is to send a shortcut to the panel. I chose the desktop for each of the pictured items.

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