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Lost sound in Luci528
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live

Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Sep 2011, 18:58    Post subject:  Lost sound in Luci528  

Stupid, but I lost the sound after some install, uninstall (none about sound drivers).

Where do i see if the sound is not simply muted?
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shadow of viper`


Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Posts: 114
Location: Hyderabad, India

PostPosted: Tue 13 Sep 2011, 08:15    Post subject:  

hello,

have you tried alsamixer?

open a tern=minal and type

alsamixer

check if all the values (bars) are non-zero in the window that opens up

if that dint work for you, please post your hardware configuration and puppy version and how you use puppy (frugal or full install etc)

i am sure someone here would be able to help, cheers!
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Sylvander

Joined: 15 Dec 2008
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Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Tue 13 Sep 2011, 09:20    Post subject:  

I had the same when I updated from Lupu-526 to Lupu-528.

Needed to run "Menu->Setup->Alsa_sound_wizard".
That detected my sound card[s]...
I chose a driver to use [the correct one]...
Alsa set it up for use, then generated 2-barks sound to indicate success.
Sound was OK after that.

Reason for needing to do this was:
Alsa had been updated in Lupu-528...
So the previous Alsa sound configurations had been wiped at the update.
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live

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Sep 2011, 05:04    Post subject:  

Hummmm...

>have you tried alsamixer?
sh-4.1# alsamixer
cannot open mixer: No such device
sh-4.1#

When I launch the Alsa Sound wizard and select the correct drive, after a while I get:

Loading driver...
Setting default volume...
amixer: Mixer attached default error: No such device

Strange alsamixer whipped out and cannot be re-installed?
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Sylvander

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Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

PostPosted: Wed 14 Sep 2011, 09:31    Post subject:  

Search HERE...

Using the following term EXACTLY:
"Mixer attach default error: No such device"
Copy and paste it.
[Include the quotes]
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loubapache


Joined: 14 Sep 2011
Posts: 54
Location: Western Michigan

PostPosted: Wed 14 Sep 2011, 10:04    Post subject:  

First post here.

Have been a long time Ubuntu user but played with Puppy Linux and really liked it. However the sound issue in 5.2.8 forced me back to 5.2.5. I am convinced that there is some problem with sound in 5.2.8.

After some software install or removal, the sound would not work again in 5.2.8. I can get it back by using the Alsa_sound_wizard even though alsamixer would give an error (it won't run). That would work for the session. Even if I SAVE the session, the next reboot would lose sound again. I can repeat this a couple of times then eventually even Alsa_sound_wizard would not bring back the sound (Mixer attach default error: No such device). It is really strange.

5.2.5 does not have any of these issues.
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playdayz


Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Sep 2011, 20:12    Post subject:  

Quote:
After some software install or removal, the sound would not work again in 5.2.8. I can get it back by using the Alsa_sound_wizard even though alsamixer would give an error (it won't run). That would work for the session. Even if I SAVE the session, the next reboot would lose sound again. I can repeat this a couple of times then eventually even Alsa_sound_wizard would not bring back the sound (Mixer attach default error: No such device). It is really strange.


Is it a fresh install of 5.2.8?
What pet was installed and uninstalled? If a problem began when a pet was installed/uninstalled, we must know what pet.
Was the Instant Update 001 for Lucid 5.2.8 applied?

0. Open retrovol and make sure all volumes are turned up
1. Use alsawizard
2. Try pfix=ram/fresh install of Lucid 5.2.8
3. Try pfix=ram/fresh install of Three-Headed Dog.
4. ask rerwin
5. try Slacko or Fatdog64 or use Lucid 5.2.5

Likely there is some problem with sound/alsa when upgrading from 5.2.5 to 5.2.8. I saw a problem once myself but it was only that I needed to turn up the volumes in retrovol. I strongly recommend that one begins with a fresh install rather than an upgrade.
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live

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Sep 2011, 10:19    Post subject:  

Playdaz

It was from a fresh install.

It worked until I install & uninstall some soft, which one I do not know, but it not the 1st time I bang into this, even with 5.2.5 but as I said I didn't notice which apps did that as I installed and bunch at once.

I think I'll wait for the next release of upu_528_k3.0.4_SMP(cpu)
and will restart the process and keep an eye on that.
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loubapache


Joined: 14 Sep 2011
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Location: Western Michigan

PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011, 08:55    Post subject:  

Thanks, playdayz. I have restarted everything.

fresh install of 5.2.8
Instant Update 001
installed all the PETs, SFSs, and potable Linux Apps.

All good so far. I took a painstaking approach to backup the savefile in every single step. So at this point I remaster the setup.

Now, the sound problem started when I try to do either of the following:

1) edit the "/etc/inittab" file in order to put a password for the install (root).

2) edit the "/etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown" file to disable the autosave at shutdown.

Somehow either one of the above is also changing the sound configuration setup. A bit strange.

Alsa_sound_wizard would not bring back the sound.

When I go back to the previous savefile. Sound came back (of course).

So my question is:

How is sound conf saved in the system? Maybe I can manually back that up, do all the changes I want, then restore the sound conf setting.

Thanks,
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loubapache


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Location: Western Michigan

PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011, 10:36    Post subject:  

When the sound is not working (no volume icon in tray either) and run retrovol, this is the error msg:

retrovol: hcontrol.c:573: snd_hctl_load: Assertion `hctl->count == 0' failed.
Aborted
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loubapache


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Location: Western Michigan

PostPosted: Sat 17 Sep 2011, 12:37    Post subject:  

An update to my sound issue. For the time being, it is solved but I still do not understand why it behaves this way.

Setup -> Default Applications Chose -> Audio Mixer to Retrovol (from alsamixter).

Then I can do whatever and the sound always come back after reboots. So I have finally a working copy of 5.2.8.

My 5.2.5 worked great without problems but I saw a nicer Chinese PET for 5.2.8 and really want to use it.

Just a few more treaks here and there and I will be using 5.2.8.

Thank to all the helpful people on this forum.
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moijdikssekool

Joined: 01 Nov 2007
Posts: 157

PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2011, 17:08    Post subject:  

i still have this problem. I'm not sure, but the problem has appeared one time when my ram reached a temporary maximum (total used memory increased till a moment it goes down, some caches are automatically deleted). Perhaps, some files related to sound are loaded without protection in RAM and are considered as caches by the system
it's a suggestion, no more
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PaulBx1

Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Posts: 2307
Location: Wyoming, USA

PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2011, 18:25    Post subject:  

I have the problem in lupu 528 on my Dell Mini 9. Alsa sound wizard finds the intel sound hardware but cannot play a sound. Amixer flashes on the screen and exits (too fast to see any error message)' No sound icon on the task bar. When booting windows, this machine plays sound fine.
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PaulBx1

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Location: Wyoming, USA

PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2011, 19:51    Post subject:  

OK, I played with this some more, booting 528 (without the update) and nothing else installed either. When it first comes up I see the speaker in the taskbar and can aplay 2barks. If I run alsa sound wizard or /etc/init.d/10alsa stop, the speaker goes away, and I never can get it back. Running stop sometimes generates error messages, but most of the time I can still aplay 2barks (which I'm guessing means it really didn't stop due to the error messages). This also generates more error messages, and if aplay fails the first time it will usually work again the 2nd time. So anyway, the speaker goes away but aplay still works, but not like you'd expect it.

I haven't yet figured out what makes sound die completely, still working...
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PaulBx1

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Sep 2011, 20:15    Post subject:  

Well, I rebooted with the original pupsave and now have my sound back, don't know why. However the speaker icon still is missing except right after a boot.
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