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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6734
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 17:39    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install...... all good this time.

# report-video
Dpup Exprimo, version 5.X.13.SMP on Wed 8 February 2012

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: # vesa

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (411x263 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz

Actually using the "nv" driver......

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1033MB (154MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 08 Feb 2012 03:37:23 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
Ethernet controller : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+
VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]
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Eathray


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 18:04    Post subject: Xorg  

Pemasu,

Do you recommend the high Xorg pet in the repo? Currently I'm running Exprimo in Vesa. Anything I should know before I try it?

Thanks,

Eathray
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pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 18:14    Post subject:  

You will need xorg high pet or sfs for certain apps...like google earth.
Those people who need it could tell more. I usually dont need it.
Also...when you know your graphics manufacturer, you can extract the pet and copy only the driver of you graphics. You really dont need more from that xorg high than one driver.

Oh vesa driver....I dont think so that you will get graphics acceleration for vesa driver...since it is generic driver.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 18:37    Post subject:  

Smokey01. Thank you of feedback. Help file...err...is it available already somewhere...or do you mean if I have done something for it. I am not quite sure what we decided at last. Call it laziness...and that I really havent had time for any other than creating these updates....which seems to shape up at last.

If the dpup exprimo help is ready...I will include it immediately.

I tested and followed slacko kernel testing thread....and was convinced that 3.1.10 is the best newer kernel choice. 3.2.X kernels had some serious bugs still.

James C. Thank for your quick report about working network. I am relieved that the problem was so devastating but also easy to fix.
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jim3630


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PostPosted: Wed 08 Feb 2012, 23:02    Post subject:  

5.X.13.SMP frugal install to ext4. no broadcom wifi drivers detected. that is as far as i got.
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6734
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 01:46    Post subject:  

5.X.13 SMP live pfix=ram on some newer hardware. Sound and internet worked on initial boot but booted to a black screen and a "Monitor out of range" message.Used the three finger salute and ran through xorgwizard to get the correct screen resolution.

# report-video
Dpup Exprimo, version 5.X.13.SMP on Wed 8 February 2012

Chip description:
d.0 VGA compatible controller
nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg
Driver used: nv

X.Org version: 1.7.7
dimensions: 1368x768 pixels (414x232 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz


-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2853MB (177MB used)
Operating System : Unknown distribution
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 08 Feb 2012 11:45:21 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1368x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 3.1.10-dpup (i686)
Compiled : #1 SMP Wed Feb 8 20:00:47 EET 2012

Looks good on just a quick hardware check. Smile
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pemasu


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Location: Finland

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 02:28    Post subject:  

Quote:
5.X.13.SMP frugal install to ext4. no broadcom wifi drivers detected. that is as far as i got.

I need more spesific bug report. Could you check what dmesg outputs and what happens if you unload and load again your broadcom driver. You know...there are several broadcom drivers in build. I suspect that you use brcmsmac.ko but as you know....I need to be sure.

I ask because brcmsmac.ko and corresponding firmware has been included...so the reason is something else. brcmsmac.ko is still in staging section which should have worked.

As you can see...I have to guess much...regarding the used broadcom driver which didnt load.

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smokey01


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Location: South Australia :-(

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 03:39    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Smokey01. Thank you of feedback. Help file...err...is it available already somewhere...or do you mean if I have done something for it. I am not quite sure what we decided at last. Call it laziness...and that I really havent had time for any other than creating these updates....which seems to shape up at last.

If the dpup exprimo help is ready...I will include it immediately.



Let me make one last check on the weekend to ensure it matches then I will send you the latest for inclusion.

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Ray MK


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Location: UK

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 05:01    Post subject:  

Hi pemasu

Quote:
5.X.13.SMP frugal install to ext4. no broadcom wifi drivers detected. that is as far as i got.

I have the same problem -
this is the 1st time that broadcom wifi has not worked using one of your puppy's with this laptop.

Obviously using another puppy to post this.

Sorry to report bad news - very best regards - Ray
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James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
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Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 05:07    Post subject:  

Pemasu will need more info such as what driver is missing/not loaded.From earlier in the thread....

Quote:
I am interested what driver is in use in the Puppy where it works. Could you check it with working Puppy, I am sure you can easily find out what driver is loaded when it works. Barrys Simple Network Setup ie SNS shows the driver used/loaded nicely.

Then I could check if the driver exists or is the problem somewhere else.

When you know the driver name, you can also by yourself check the existence in 5.X.10.3, in console:
Code:
find /lib -name "DRIVERNAME*"
replace the drivername with the loaded driver name.
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peebee


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 09:15    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
...there are several broadcom drivers in build.


Hi pemasu

Just to let you know that Broadcom B43 driver loads and works fine for me - checked with a pristine, manual, frugal install and a reboot.

Cheers
peebee

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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 09:44    Post subject:  

Same reply. I wish ppl would post WHAT broadcom driver does not load.
Otherwise, possible fix is impossible to implement.

With best wishes.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 09:53    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Same reply. I wish ppl would post WHAT broadcom driver does not load.
Otherwise, possible fix is impossible to implement.

With best wishes.


Hi pemasu

Wasn't sure if you wanted more info from me.....mine is a SUCCESS report!

b43 is the driver - loads and works with my bcm4311 version 13 firmware id: 14e4:4312

Cheers
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 10:26    Post subject:  

Peebee. I didnt remember to praise you. You mentioned that b43 loads which is important detail. I did update the b43 firmwares...there is over 50 firmwares now. And Barry Kauler`s fix to the rc.sysinit works through woof.

Thank you of confirming that I seem to have updated b43 firmwares succesfully...at least for you.
It is also possible that my updated firmware package is not as succesful to the other b43 chips which uses other firmware for b43 driver (kernel module driver b43)

But....I need more detailed bug report of that/those broadcom driver/drivers which does not load.
Dmesg before and after manual unloading and reloading would be helpful....
#rmmod "type here your broadcom driver without .ko" like rmmod brcmsmac and then modprobe brcmsmac
and after that dmesg. Dmesg dislays kernel driver module information regarding to that reloading.

I know that the bug report posters can obtain the information using Puppy which loads their broadcom succsfully, Barry Kauler`s SNS ie Simple Network Setup app shows the module name clearly.

Alternative....post the output of lspci -nnv regarding to the broadcom hardware. I can then easily check from that information what driver that chip uses. But dont post all the lspci -nnv rows....there so much data...only those rows concerning broadcom wireless.

Also it is possible that the driver loads ok when you manually remove and reload it if there is timing problem.

There can be also some module preferences problem which needs modification.

Conclusion....I need more data.
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pemasu


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2012, 11:18    Post subject:  

I did compile Qupzilla-1.1.5. For all those who like to test those more or less lightweight browsers. I think Qupzilla is one of the best of them.
You will need Qt libs to use them but my compiled Qt-4.8.0 for dpup can be found in smokey01 site.
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