Slacko B4

[davids45]

G'day,

No joy with second acpi pet on this desktop. Also tried acpi=off and then acpi=force, but same result.

On power-down, black screen text lines mention killing processes and then "requesting reboot" appears... and the computer does.

Don't have this issue on this desktop with any other Pup (Exprimos/Lupus/numerically-superior-pated-dogs/Finnish geographical pups/Drake/lighthouse pup) or the 64-bit versions.

Is there a significance in this issue only appearing in slacko betas 3 & 4 whereas beta 2 was OK?

What is the common factor with other computers doing this, I wonder?

David S.

[01micko]

I have fixed abiword so that it now works with .docx and .odt (Microsoft and Opendocument formats respectively). I am a bit disgusted actually.. the docx was the easy part! The open document format drags in almost 1 M of compressed libs! Docx was only a 200K compressed plugin. I almost decided to leave the odt plugin out, but then why even have abiword at all if it can only open .doc? (and whatever it's native format is).

This is at the expense of Psip32 which Smokey, Lobster Eric and Jamesbond have been working very hard on.. I have made a compromise though.. Psip is now on the 1st page of slickpet, at the expense of Pwidgets which is a victim of the old conky. The version of conky in Pwidgets is getting flakey and I guess in a year or so will be useless in a new distro.

[01micko]

G'day,

No joy with second acpi pet on this desktop. Also tried acpi=off and then acpi=force, but same result.

On power-down, black screen text lines mention killing processes and then "requesting reboot" appears... and the computer does.

Don't have this issue on this desktop with any other Pup (Exprimos/Lupus/numerically-superior-pated-dogs/Finnish geographical pups/Drake/lighthouse pup) or the 64-bit versions.

Is there a significance in this issue only appearing in slacko betas 3 & 4 whereas beta 2 was OK?

What is the common factor with other computers doing this, I wonder?

David S.

Hi David. I think there are 2 bugs. One introduced by Barry's tinkering with the shutdown script for the pupsaveguithingy and another where a process wasn't killed in B3.. I think B5 might be ok.

[Tasgarth]

Question about pfix=ram and slacko-pupsaves :
F2 > pfix=ram => directly i get my 'personalized' pupsave with my programs ( gimp, startmount etc...) and not a clean Slacko.
I must change the name of 'slacko-pupsaves' in slackosave-xx.fs.bak
pfix=ram should ignore saved sessions and run totally in ram, is'nt?

[Sage]

No joy with second acpi pet on this desktop. Also tried acpi=off and then acpi=force, but same result.

Have you looked back through 'Search' yet?
At one time there was discussion about BIOS settings.
On some Cq/HP laptops there could be another issue with BIOS data held on a hidden partition, but machines of that vintage have probably all met a suitable conclusion by now? Despite protests to the contrary, anyone with one of those beasts can completely delete the HD, hidden and MBR and do a FULL Puppy. There was some doubt about this earlier, but I recently confirmed it works. Better still give all your laptops to the kids next door - sporting chance they'll drop them, then the world will be free of another technological failure.

[shinobar]

Update: sfs_load-1.2
26 Sep 2011 v1.2: fix was undesired mount (thanks to mories), fix was fleezed input in combobox, fix ramsize
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=64354

[charlie6]

Hi Mick,
While trying to understand how xorgwizard script works, and where the BROOKDALE script is started, I noticed this:
line 1498 tells:

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1498   if grep -F 'oem:' /tmp/ddcprobe.txt | grep -i -F -q 'Brookdale' ;then

Here on my Brookdale, the file ddcprobe.txt doesn't contain 'Brookdale' but only the chipset type figures:

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#ddcprobe
...
oem: Intel(r)845G/845GL/845GE/845GV Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
...
#

So as all Brookdale chipset seem to be 845Gx, x being nothing or L or E or V, and vice-versa, me suggests editing line 1498 as:

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1498   if grep -F 'oem:' /tmp/ddcprobe.txt | grep -i -F -q '845G' ;then

Got a try on it restarting xorgwizard: the Brookdale warning is well displayed upon xorgwizard run.

Edited:
Also tested: the BROOKDALE script is launched as well and the xorg.conf file is adapted accordingly; and X does'nt crash.

Charlie

[rcrsn51]

I almost decided to leave the odt plugin out, but then why even have abiword at all if it can only open .doc?

It seems to me that anyone working with odt files would already have installed an Open/LibreOffice package. But lots of people would like Abiword to open their imported MS Word documents.

[Jim1911]

Power-off computer does a reboot instead of shutting down power. I don't get the lines that Davids45 reported.

[charlie6]

Bonjour Tasgarth,

...F2 > pfix=ram => directly i get my 'personalized' pupsave with my programs ( gimp, startmount etc...) and not a clean Slacko.

Hmmm ... upon live-cd «boot:» prompt, Just do verify you type «puppy pfix=ram» (sans les guillemets svp !) ... do not forget to enter «puppy» in front of «pfix=ram».
Another tip:
to get the azerty keyboard straight running in command line mode, you may enter «puppy pfix=ram pkeys=azerty» upon «boot:» prompt (sans les guillemets, ... toujours! ) - si ce n'est pas «azerty» le code correct est indiqué sous F2 ou F3.

Hope this helps!
@+
Charlie

[jpeps]

o1micko,

Not to belabor this, but I'm wondering if you have any insights on the defaultbrowser issue mentioned earlier. Something is different with slacko.
If I load pfix=ram & install notecase-pro, clicking on links or their "go to home" link doesn't work correctly. The same pet works correctly in Dog, Lucid, etc., so the issue appears unique to slacko.

[stu90]

Do we still have Porteus module compatibility? What does this mean? Where are the modules?
http://porteus.org/distro-download/porteus-scripts.html

Would be good if we do - looking about there is Russian OS called FidoSlax that is based on Porteus and they have a well stocked modules repository.
FidoSlax main page:
http://code.google.com/p/fidoslax/wiki/MainPageEnglish
FidoSlax modules repository:
http://code.google.com/p/fidoslax/downl ... 00&start=0

[MinHundHettePerro]

Hi Mick,
While trying to understand how xorgwizard script works, and where the BROOKDALE script is started, I noticed this:
line 1498 tells:

Code: Select all

1498   if grep -F 'oem:' /tmp/ddcprobe.txt | grep -i -F -q 'Brookdale' ;then

Here on my Brookdale, the file ddcprobe.txt doesn't contain 'Brookdale' but only the chipset type figures:

Code: Select all

#ddcprobe
...
oem: Intel(r)845G/845GL/845GE/845GV Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
...
#

So as all Brookdale chipset seem to be 845Gx, x being nothing or L or E or V, and vice-versa, me suggests editing line 1498 as:

Code: Select all

1498   if grep -F 'oem:' /tmp/ddcprobe.txt | grep -i -F -q '845G' ;then

Got a try on it restarting xorgwizard: the Brookdale warning is well displayed upon xorgwizard run.

Edited:
Also tested: the BROOKDALE script is launched as well and the xorg.conf file is adapted accordingly; and X does'nt crash.

Charlie

Hello, charlie6 and fellow Brookdalers !
I think we need to identify the least significant denominator , Mme Brooky wears many disguises

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# ddcprobe |grep oem
oem: Brookdale-G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
# lspci -nn|grep -i vga
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 03)
# lspci -nn -mm|grep -i vga
00:02.0 "VGA compatible controller [0300]" "Intel Corporation [8086]" "82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [2562]" -r03 "Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [1462]" "Device [7148]"
# 

Cheers / MHHP

[nooby]

Do we still have Porteus module compatibility? What does this mean? Where are the modules?
http://porteus.org/distro-download/porteus-scripts.html

Would be good if we do - looking about there is Russian OS called FidoSlax that is based on Porteus and they have a well stocked modules repository.
FidoSlax main page:
http://code.google.com/p/fidoslax/wiki/MainPageEnglish
FidoSlax modules repository:
http://code.google.com/p/fidoslax/downl ... 00&start=0

So does it speak both Russian and English then. Are everthing first in English and you get russian with some kind of switch or button or what?

Curios on this one

FIDOSlax a distro has already integrated software for FIDONet network
by using the method of FIDO over IP (binkd, husky hpt and GoldED-NSF).

For more detailed information, see below in the section Connection to Fidonet; "

wow that was different.

I have tested Porteus already so it collide with those directories I guess and I ahve to rename their save file or it will use that one?

Maybe you should start a new thread about this Fidoslax thing?

[Stripe]

hi all

a possible work around for those with taskbar volume icon problems. (well it worked for me )

open /root/.retrovolrc (dont forget to click on the eye icon at the top of the window to see it, as it is a hidden file)

look at line 43 and uncheck:

tray_control="Master Playback Volume"

this sets the master playback volume in alsamixer as default for the tray slider. (dont forget to save and restart so the change will be used)

I also had to run the multiple soundcard wizard but will wait to see if this works first, before recommending using that.

any feedback, questions welcome (I might even be able to answer them )

hope this helps
don

[jpeps]

o1micko,

Not to belabor this, but I'm wondering if you have any insights on the defaultbrowser issue mentioned earlier. Something is different with slacko.
If I load pfix=ram & install notecase-pro, clicking on links or their "go to home" link doesn't work correctly. The same pet works correctly in Dog, Lucid, etc., so the issue appears unique to slacko.

Okay..if I insert into /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser

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rxvt -hold -e echo -e "$@" 

Nothing in slacko, but in Dog:

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http://www.notecasepro.com

Other than that, it's reading the browser...just not the args.

[davids45]

G'day,

Just to add a little to the Reboot - Shut-down saga.
01micko commented that Barry's tinkering with the first shut-down script may have created the problem. This may be right as I just tried my racya1 frugal on this desktop and it too reboots when a power-off was chosen from the shut-down menu. Wary-5.1.4 is fine.

This shut-down problem happens after I have set up my save files, and happens with full installs. Maybe trying to fix the initial shut-down has created a minor bug in the later shut-downs for certain computers?

But I think racya1 also has a problem with the radeon driver on my computer because I don't actually see the shut-down text lines - the monitor goes black when I hit 'power-off the computer' but then starts up again rather than shutting down.

Another poster with the failure to power down slackob4 on his computer said he didn't see the text lines I was seeing with slackob4. So maybe he also has a graphics card/driver problem during shutdown? I have had continuing problems with the Lucid-based Pups this way but not with the Slack pups so the drivers from the parent distributions seem to be not the same.

David S.

[01micko]

Hi David.. I think the shutdown woes will be over

I have the new shutdown config and have reverted the sleep 2 fix.. if you remove the sleep 2 in B4 (/sbin/poweroff) it may fix the issue.. I did a test by switching poweroff and reboot and my machine powered off ok pfix=ram.

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Abiword is actually looking useful.. and actually I save stuff as odt all the time, so I bet thousands (millions?) do.. my feeling is if we support proprietary we should support foss as much as possible too, that's why I'll make the nvidia nouveau driver more prominent as well.

Originally I set my target at 120M iso.. that got torpedoed when seamonkey 2.2 arrived.. it grew by 5 meg! Now the iso is a chubby 124M

acpid seems to be behaving, I'm tempted to release as RC, but jpeps has his notecase issue.. sorry I can't help much there. Also a new woof is imminent, so I'll release soon B5.

[gcmartin]

...Abiword ....

I haven't tested, but, Abiword (in the past) has paid much more attention to the more frequent changes of DOC/DOCX than they have to the less frequent changes of the open-source ODT.

Further, when saving in ODT, aspect ratios, fonts, boxes, etc would NOT carry over when trying to open in OOo/Libre/GoogleDocs. Whereas, Abiword saving as DOCs would respect those and open properly in OOo/Libre/GoogleDocs.

Looking forward. to testing. in B4

[sszindian]

Sage wrote:

Possible that ssz has other HW issues because B4 now works with all my SiS video systems.

How could this even be possible when my SiS card totally supports 1440x900 IN EVERY OTHER PUPPY I USE. (Racy-Wary, Drake, Luci-529, Squeeze-499-2, NEXT, Spup-(99 &100) Squeeze-5x5, KDpup, Stardust, Quirky for some of the more recent puppy ones, and Bodhi, LPS, Geexbox, UT-TTYLinux, Free NAS, Tinycore, Joli-OS, PCLinux, Peppermint, Unity, to name but a few of the other linux programs I use (and I use them all) that give me 1440x900 without a problem)... Slacko... ain't cuttin it with my card Sage!!! But if I know 01micko like I think I do, he'll solve it for sure!!!

>>>---Indian------>