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nooby

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 11:25    Post subject:  

Double post I explain in this post and ask you to ignore the next Smile

Finally I get what is going on at my place.

It really works with FF19 and many time but when one shut it down
for to use geany or to listen to music or to look at saved pictures
of cool Bikes whatever and then restart it

then it check if the extensions are compatible with FF19
and them realize they are not updated to be able to be used
on FF19 so it instantly goes back to a FF17 backup somewhere
it was done within a second so it must have prepared for it.

So now we know how it works at my install but who knows
maybe Makoto or others have other factors that set in.

So there is nothing to do about it just wait for that they update
ASAP

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 14:29    Post subject:  

look at text above that one explain what goes on.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 15:15    Post subject:  

Image too big? Upload, then link your shot from here.

And I'd agree- Makotos`cause is different I'm sure..
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 21:27    Post subject:  

In my case, it's probably something about Puppy 4.3.1 or some of my installed libs it doesn't like (though you'd think that with the latter, it would throw error messages).

For all I know, it looks at my kernel version and politely declines any more updates, because it thinks the system can't properly run it. The same behavior happens if you try to update past FF2 on a Win9X/ME system, IIRC. (It doesn't see the updates, and doesn't really tell you why.)

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 22:46    Post subject:  

Makoto wrote:
In my case, it's probably something about Puppy 4.3.1 or some of my installed libs it doesn't like (though you'd think that with the latter, it would throw error messages).

For all I know, it looks at my kernel version and politely declines any more updates, because it thinks the system can't properly run it. The same behavior happens if you try to update past FF2 on a Win9X/ME system, IIRC. (It doesn't see the updates, and doesn't really tell you why.)


You can eliminate the kernel...... I used the kernel from 4.3.1 when I built Lucid Retro and I'm posting from Firefox 19.0.2 right now. Newer Firefox builds are probably requiring some built-in lib that's too old in the 4 series Puppy's.
Pretty sure Firefox quit updating in my install of Ttuuxxx's 4.32, I'll reboot and check.

On Windows 2000 Firefox won't update past 12.0 either.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 23:10    Post subject:  

Requirements for Firefox 19.0

Quote:
Firefox will not run at all without the following libraries or packages:

GTK+ 2.18 or higher
GLib 2.22 or higher
Pango 1.14 or higher
X.Org 1.0 or higher (1.7 or higher is recommended)
libstdc++ 4.3 or higher


http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/19.0/system-requirements/
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 23:15    Post subject:  

I had forgotten but Firefox 19.0.2 also works in 4.3.2. Not sure what Ttuuxxx upgraded from 431 though.
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PostPosted: Tue 12 Mar 2013, 23:36    Post subject:  

Hmm... well, I think my Puppy has GTK+ at 2.14.7, and glib at 2.18.3. The odd thing is, though, as I noted above - if I try running the v18/19 binaries from Mozilla, they'll run, but for some reason, believe they're v12 or earlier. Shocked

Edit: Ran a couple of basic ldd attempts against 19.0.2:

Code:
# ldd -v firefox
   linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xffffe000)
   libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7fb6000)
   libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7fb2000)
   libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7ecb000)
   libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb7ea9000)
   libgcc_s.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7e9e000)
   libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7da2000)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fcc000)

   Version information:
   ./firefox:
      libgcc_s.so.1 (GLIBC_2.0) => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      libdl.so.2 (GLIBC_2.1) => /lib/libdl.so.2
      libdl.so.2 (GLIBC_2.0) => /lib/libdl.so.2
      libstdc++.so.6 (GLIBCXX_3.4) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
      libstdc++.so.6 (CXXABI_1.3) => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6
      libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.1) => /lib/libpthread.so.0
      libpthread.so.0 (GLIBC_2.0) => /lib/libpthread.so.0
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) => /lib/libc.so.6
   /lib/libpthread.so.0:
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.1) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3.2) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) => /lib/libc.so.6
   /lib/libdl.so.2:
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/libc.so.6
   /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6:
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.3) => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1
      libgcc_s.so.1 (GCC_3.0) => /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) => /lib/libc.so.6
   /lib/libm.so.6:
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) => /lib/libc.so.6
   /usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1:
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2.4) => /lib/libc.so.6
      libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) => /lib/libc.so.6
   /lib/libc.so.6:
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.3) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2
      ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.1) => /lib/ld-linux.so.2

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Apr 2013, 18:28    Post subject:  

Released today >> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/20.0/releasenotes/
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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2013, 06:30    Post subject:  

Yesterday >> https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/21.0/releasenotes/
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PostPosted: Wed 15 May 2013, 09:59    Post subject:  

Good that you tell us they have new versions already.

I am too dumb to get this feature.

https://blog.mozilla.org/privacy/2013/01/28/newdntui/

" the Do Not Track feature really has three states: “user says nothing”, “user says track”, and “user says don’t track”. In Firefox 4, we introduced two of these states with a checkbox (“user says nothing” and “user says don’t track”), and many people are voicing their desire to opt-out."

If one reveal that one don't want to be tracked that is a clear sign
one should be tracked and why would any tracker even care to obey?

Is it not something odd about it.

The better approach would be

These guys are tracking you which of them would you allow.


NoScript has something similar. all scipts are shut off until one allow them.

some site refuse to show Streaming Video from CNN unless all
the scripts are allowed Smile So rather annoying but one at least
know whom they are wanting to keep track using scripts.

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